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The ATF is 'Woke'.
Posted By: chas3457
The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/26/21 11:00 PM
The "new" form you fill out when buying a firearm, now has a third option on one of the questions.
Male
Female
Non Binary
Seriously???
If you don't know which bathroom to use, you probably shouldn't be anywhere near a firearm.
Charlie
Posted By: Leftlane
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/26/21 11:44 PM
The fact that they don't know where to pee has me less concerned than womens and childrens dead bodies up in Waco.
They and prolly most of those alphabet agencies ought to be disbanded
Posted By: H2ORat
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/26/21 11:49 PM
The fact that they don't know where to pee has me less concerned than womens and childrens dead bodies up in Waco.
They and prolly most of those alphabet agencies ought to be disbanded
Only the ones based out of D.C
Posted By: trap master
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/26/21 11:51 PM
I've never been delayed on a nics check but if thats on there for real im checkin that box next time just to see what happens!
Posted By: warrior
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/26/21 11:54 PM
I've never been delayed on a nics check but if thats on there for real im checkin that box next time just to see what happens!
Probably a guaranteed approval.
Posted By: crowheart
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/26/21 11:56 PM
The part I don't like is what race you are, who cares if you can legally have one.
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/26/21 11:56 PM
I'll add a fourth box Trump supporter and check that.
Posted By: chas3457
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/26/21 11:56 PM
I've never been delayed on a nics check but if thats on there for real im checkin that box next time just to see what happens!
I guarantee it's on there. I SEEN IT.
Charlie
Posted By: Getting There
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/26/21 11:59 PM
You have to cover all the bases you know. More B.S.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 12:04 AM
The "new" form you fill out when buying a firearm, now has a third option on one of the questions.
Male
Female
Non Binary
Seriously???
If you don't know which bathroom to use, you probably shouldn't be anywhere near a firearm.
Charlie
Be a good way to weed out the crazy people.
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 12:10 AM
Posted By: Leftlane
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 12:14 AM
I'll add a fourth box Trump supporter and check that.
Denied!
& added to 3 watch lists
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 12:15 AM
I'll add a fourth box Trump supporter and check that.
Denied!
& added to 3 watch lists Lol
Posted By: loosegoose
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 12:16 AM
Everyone has a right to own a gun for defense if life and property.
2 weeks ago I stayed at an Airbnb and the host was a trans "woman" (dude), and she/he answered the door openly carrying a pistol. She/he carried a gun the whole time we were there, and the house had cameras all over too. She/he was very nice and mostly normal, we didn't talk politics but she/he seemed fairly libertarian. we all stayed up late talking guns and old house stuff. She/he has a legitimate fear of violence being brought upon her/him because of how she/he chooses to live her/his life. Gays and trans that carry guns don't get bashed. It's actually quite common for gay and trans folks to carry because they fear for thier safety.
If you are not on a government watch list by now you should be ashamed.
Posted By: Leftlane
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 12:18 AM
Good point
If you are not on a government watch list by now you should be ashamed.
I agree.
It's an unnecessary change to the form. The issue was already covered in question 11(f) concerning mental health.
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 12:37 AM
It's an unnecessary change to the form. The issue was already covered in question 11(f) concerning mental health.
I always tell people that there are people watching the people that are watching me. In actuality there are probably more than that.
Non binary on a firearms form? I guess the atf is truly clueless. Only semi autos can take a binary trigger and only a few of those. It's the only thing that makes sense.
I'm checking it with my next bolt action purchase for sure.
Everyone has a right to own a gun for defense if life and property.
2 weeks ago I stayed at an Airbnb and the host was a trans "woman" (dude), and she/he answered the door openly carrying a pistol. She/he carried a gun the whole time we were there, and the house had cameras all over too. She/he was very nice and mostly normal, we didn't talk politics but she/he seemed fairly libertarian. we all stayed up late talking guns and old house stuff. She/he has a legitimate fear of violence being brought upon her/him because of how she/he chooses to live her/his life. Gays and trans that carry guns don't get bashed. It's actually quite common for gay and trans folks to carry because they fear for thier safety.
I had read that He/she's and Gays experience the most violence attacks from, wait for it......... each other. Not from Straights or heterosexuals. I guess the % of the population is so small they get jealous and fight hard for their He/she's and Gay's. Not enough to go around I guess. Perhaps that explains the lefts long running recruitment drive.
Posted By: Leftlane
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 01:02 AM
I seen a pair of gay men slap the heckl out of one another in a trailer court one time. Then one got in the car and the other pried the door open as the one fleeing finally found reverse. Sent his lil buddy rollin. I couldn't stop laughin
Posted By: trapdog1
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 01:10 AM
The whole he/she thing is ridiculous. Pick one.
Posted By: DelawareRob
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 01:21 AM
Shouldn’t need to fill out a form in the first place.
ATF should be a convenience store.
Posted By: loosegoose
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 01:25 AM
Everyone has a right to own a gun for defense if life and property.
2 weeks ago I stayed at an Airbnb and the host was a trans "woman" (dude), and she/he answered the door openly carrying a pistol. She/he carried a gun the whole time we were there, and the house had cameras all over too. She/he was very nice and mostly normal, we didn't talk politics but she/he seemed fairly libertarian. we all stayed up late talking guns and old house stuff. She/he has a legitimate fear of violence being brought upon her/him because of how she/he chooses to live her/his life. Gays and trans that carry guns don't get bashed. It's actually quite common for gay and trans folks to carry because they fear for thier safety.
I had read that He/she's and Gays experience the most violence attacks from, wait for it......... each other. Not from Straights or heterosexuals. I guess the % of the population is so small they get jealous and fight hard for their He/she's and Gay's. Not enough to go around I guess. Perhaps that explains the lefts long running recruitment drive.
That's where most of it comes from, sure. In any case, they have just as much right to defend themselves from violence as you and me.
Yep the He/ She's having a pinch fight and next thing you know out come a rod, BANG!!!
Posted By: trapdog1
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 02:00 AM
Yep the He/ She's having a pinch fight and next thing you know out come a rod, BANG!!!
Man, I hate when that happens.
Posted By: jeff karsten
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 02:09 AM
Posted By: chas3457
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 02:11 AM
Goose,
I KNEW you would show up and offer some liberal insight.
Seriously, the first thought that went through my mind as soon as I hit the 'post' button, was "Ol' Captain Poopy Pants" is gonna have something to add.
It just never gets old, being right.
Carry on
Charlie
Posted By: elkaholic
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 02:34 AM
I had a friend, when PA still had the 3 day waiting period for pistols, put down "master" in the race box. That went over like a wet fart in church.
Posted By: loosegoose
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 02:57 AM
Goose,
I KNEW you would show up and offer some liberal insight.
Seriously, the first thought that went through my mind as soon as I hit the 'post' button, was "Ol' Captain Poopy Pants" is gonna have something to add.
It just never gets old, being right.
Carry on
Charlie
That's sir captain poopy pants to you.
For real, though, I can't imagine anyone calling themselves a friend of the 2nd amendment and having a problem with trans or gay people owning guns. And just so we're clear, any background check form is dumb, and having something besides male or female is even dumber yet.
that will be interesting the form Must Match your ID exactly
so it would require that a state already has a Non Binary status to be used.
as long as everyone has Equal ability to buy a gun and exercise their right to defense I don't care if they are A gender Non Binary .
while these folks are often taken advantage of by the party of promise and neglect no American is the enemy because of who they are only what they do. Denying others is a DO that puts them over the edge into enemy territory and not what box they check.
Posted By: walleye101
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 03:17 AM
Why would they need to know if you are male or female? You're buying a gun, not tampons.
Posted By: Bruce T
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 03:25 AM
I had a friend, when PA still had the 3 day waiting period for pistols, put down "master" in the race box. That went over like a wet fart in church.
Posted By: Blaine County
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 12:24 PM
The fundamental problem is the form itself from a 2A perspective.
I do however think there is an additional 2A threat when people are "required" to identify personal information on the form that can be used to extrapolate likely political ideology.
I am a middle aged white male who has bought more than a few weapons. The Feds can extrapolate that I am likely a 2A supporter just with the form(s).
However, a black female or a binary whatever buying a weapon is less likely to be a 2A supporter. Yes, she/it is buying a weapon. She/it will however be more inclined to vote on race/gender and therefore the Feds do not give her/its purchase and ownership as much weight when calculating how much it can politically trample on the 2A.
Why would they need to know if you are male or female? You're buying a gun, not tampons.
I completely understand your sarcasm, but will point out that the first day of wrestling practice every year consisted of a half hour of cutting tampons in half when I was a kid. We didn't have girls wrestling back then, them things make great nose bleed stoppers.
A box or two of the cheap cardboard tampons are a great thing to have in the med kit for
both genders.
Posted By: danny clifton
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 01:08 PM
Insta check is a good thing. Quit complaining. It keeps guns out of the hands of people who would use them to rob and murder. It also keeps the liberals from demanding more gun control. Were you guys asleep when Willie signed it into law?
Posted By: upstateNY
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 01:38 PM
The "new" form you fill out when buying a firearm, now has a third option on one of the questions.
Male
Female
Non Binary
Seriously???
If you don't know which bathroom to use, you probably shouldn't be anywhere near a firearm.
Charlie
Check the "Non Binary" one and their less apt to mess with ya for fear of being called some kind of Phobic.
Posted By: 330-Trapper
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 02:58 PM
Goose,
I KNEW you would show up and offer some liberal insight.
Seriously, the first thought that went through my mind as soon as I hit the 'post' button, was "Ol' Captain Poopy Pants" is gonna have something to add.
It just never gets old, being right.
Carry on
Charlie
That's sir captain poopy pants to you.
For real, though, I can't imagine anyone calling themselves a friend of the 2nd amendment and having a problem with trans or gay people owning guns. And just so we're clear, any background check form is dumb, and having something besides male or female is even dumber yet.
If it makes you happy Staying Up... having late night chats with "it" who cares... not all people want to hear about it.
Posted By: jeff karsten
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 05:16 PM
So as i'm at the age when my binary's don't mean much anymore can i check the "Out of Stock" box
Posted By: Wanna Be
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 06:11 PM
I thought binary was math and now math is racist...so is being binary racist?
Posted By: chas3457
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 07:06 PM
I thought binary was math and now math is racist...so is being binary racist?
Yes, apparently it is. It is racist to identify as a white male. You need to be 'gender confused' and 'of color' to fit in.
Charlie
Posted By: trapdog1
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 07:08 PM
Can I be confused about my gender AND color?
Posted By: Catch22
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 07:09 PM
Sported a pretty good tan last year, some may say sexy. Am I ok, or do I need to get the speedo out earlier?
Posted By: chas3457
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. - 02/27/21 07:12 PM
Can I be confused about my gender AND color?
HO ! Get nekid and stand in front of a full length mirror. When the SKOCK wears off, you will know what color you are, and how you are plumbed.
Charlie