Used pickup market

If find out more trouble truck after all money spent it with high miles, think try trade in before things get worse an break down , so used vechile market prices are crazy high at time ? Big demand ? I don't know, blew lot cash savevup repairs an not wanna blow all an junk out , so if trade in, minuim cash wanna spend so no idea what kinda deal get, not good one ? Alot bad mouth gm but what so good about ford ,Chrysler trucks ? I had ford, n Chrysler years back in cars, lots trouble them, Chrysler for sure bad, don't ford have lots issues with timing belt or chain replaced on rangers ?

Buy a good used Toyota. Spend twice the amount of money you want to spend.

Please buy a better vechile. Please.

Ranger timing belt sets are cheap just a pain because the A/C parts are in the way when you go to change them. Them 4 cyl seem to hold up well with the higher miles.

Don’t buy the rangers with 8 spark plugs in their 4 cylinder!!!

Be prepared to be shocked, I have been looking for a used superduty, diesel, 2012s will cost you 2/3 of new. 2016s are within 8gs of new.

All vehicles have potential for problems. Maintenance and repairs are just part of driving. Vehicle prices are ridiculously high. So much so I spent $5700 having a jasper rebuilt motor, ac, radiator and a few other things replaced on my 97 single cab 2wd ranger. The truck is not worth half what I spent on it but I would not have got much of a truck for that same money. Now at least I have a 3 year 100k warranty on the motor.


Cash for clunkers took a lot of good used vehicles off the road and limited the supply of them driving up prices. Add in New vehicles cost as much or more than I paid for my first house on two acres it makes the crazy prices for 200k mile trucks look ok. It's all folks can afford. Don't forget to add in the high inflation the government said is not happening.

Read it back to yourself and try and answer all 17 questions

We try but you don't listen

^^ they are not cheep and they are hard to find a good one ( at least down here) take care of it and it should last you for a while! Good luck!

Almost anyone can have a decent vehicle if they have a job.
The bank has lots of money to lend,(interest rates are as low as they have ever been) unless you have bad credit.Just stay within your budget.
NEVER borrow from loan shark companys or shady car dealers.

The more i look into toyotas, the more im thinking a LOT of their high price is the cult following from granola people. I get they run high miles, but the frame issues are worrysome. You would think a company would fix the problem, but from what ive read, the frames can be junk til fairly late years. So, if youre looking for a tacoma or older tundra from the midwest, id look for one with a new frame. With that, 200k miles wouldnt scare me.

My neighbor just offered me his 2017 1 ton Super duty (Gas) 82xxx miles. I had to pass because of what the dealership offered. Uh - Seriously, I might as well just buy a new one.

Any fairly new(couple-3 years)used vehicle with low mileage is not much lower in cost than new
A lot of people lease vehicles now and turn them over at around 50-60 thousand km.These vehicles are on sale on a lot of lots here for almost same price as new.

maintenance is just part of it.. I had a ford ranger that had 300,000 before I got rid of it. still coulda drove it. had a black ranger with 200,000 some and stuff starting breaking in the front after I looked im surprised I could still drive the thing. sold for 900. lots of small things needed done but not bad truck for around town.

got a 2007 honda ody, replaced transmission, belt, ac compressor and block / and yesterday I replaced the radiator and thermostat... just part of life dude. you use it, it breaks.

just do reg maintenance on whatever you get. every vehicle will have its own issues people talk about... I think you need to get a horse and buggy. get 100,000 miles on a set of wheels and the engine is good for a long time!

if you get a vehicle with high miles you better expect to start fixing stuff.

I don’t understand your questions but if you like the pickup you have why not take the time and money to fix what’s wrong with it and then you know what you have instead of buying someone else’s problems.
In your past post I can not understand why you don’t find a good reliable mechanic that you trust and have the vehicle repaired????


B

Well not put another $800 manifold on if been replaced twice an last time was in July, so much for ranger idea if 2 spark plugs a cyl, noway if trade that get vechile 200 k on it or anywhere even close that, 150 k, I pass unless super deal

Have you considered leasing a pickup?

Just bought ex mans for a 350, 50 bucks each new, 10 for new bolts.
these days a regular guy probably best to pay payments and insurance
than "try" to work on his own.

Friend bought new 1 ton 4x4.
He said one brand was 5k more than the other.
Hear-say but yikes 5k?

[quote=coonman220]Well not put another $800 manifold on if been replaced twice an last time was in July, so much for ranger idea if 2 spark plugs a cyl, noway if trade that get vechile 200 k on it or anywhere even close that, 150 k, I pass unless super deal

Well apparently there not such a super deal if your fixing them all the time. Your buying other people’s problems, you get what you pay for!!
You may have a Mechanic issue????
My last truck purchase was a 1988 F250 4x4. I bought it from a local junkyard last fall and drove it home. This spring it will get a remanufactured motor with new belts and hoses. New tires and brakes. Junkyard made a little off of it and when I’m finished it will fit my needs. I’ll know what I’ve got when I’m done.

B

I think that's the route I'll go too. I have a 97 250 4x4 that's rusty and needs some love, only has 47k on it. I'm gonna start looking for a southern cab and put a flatbed on it. Do a bunch of work on it and keep the ole girl.

Used pickups are not worth the money they are asking recently. With most dealers offering 0 interest if you qualify and only a percent or two if you don't, its hard to justify buying used and not new.
Then ya know what ya have.

Not to highjack but what is the issues?
Last one I owned went over 300,000 (routine maint.)
Brother is still driving one way more miles than that ?

Not sure of your mechanical abilities, but used means maintenance possible beyond normal.
Until you get 8-10 yrs old vehicles prices are crazy around here.

I bought a 4 year old F150 with the small V-6, no turbo, 172,000 miles on it. Guy that had it put on 4,000 miles a month, I was not scared, never even drove it , had it delivered on a flatbed. But I have replaced all the fluids in it, shocks all around, yes it needed tires and brakes, but in two years I have only put another 16.000 on it, I think I can drive it for a lot of years and then it will be average mileage for the year. The state asked me to pay more sales tax, because they said I bought it for less than wholesale, just had to send a second purchase agreement.

I've been going retro on my last two vehicles, current project is a 84 F250HD 4x4. Find a decent running truck and stick a few thousand into it vs dumping tens of thousands into a computer with tires. The ability to fix something with duct tape and tie wire is priceless.

You would be amazed at what’s sitting at the local junkyard. You just need to take the time and look around and be patient. There’s good warranty on remanufactured motors, most have 3 year 100,000 miles warranty.

B

I don't like have a thing do junkyards, nasty places

A new 2021 Chevy 1500 work truck is bare bones price of $28,750 . You won't see a better price on a new truck.

Problems have solutions sometimes you may not like them but you do what is necessary. Myself I love junk yards lots of treasures in them.

At this point it seems to me you complain a lot and though seem to have good work ethic don't seem able to make good choices so you can get ahead.

It used to make since to cut your losses and buy a newer vehicle vs repair cost on old ones. With today's prices on vehicles I think its cheaper to spend 10k on an old one rebuilding it and know what you have vs spending that 10 k on more wore out junk. Just my current take on it.

I drove before, appt in shop an ya, sounds like last year , crack manifold from Jan to July an fell apart, if is under warantee, an can get shop to do it, who eats the labor cost ? Shop or parts supply ? Pretty sure it walker exhaust system parts

You may not have as manly options as you hope to have but in our area used pickups are extremely high priced. I bought a 4 wheel drive SUV for about half or less of what a 4 wheel drive pickup sells for at similar age and miles. I bought the SUV to save miles on my pickup so it will last longer. I have a 2006 Silverado 1500 with 116,000 and want that to go another 5-7 years.

Bryce

have you thought about a Van

yes not the appeal of the truck but a cargo van can be very useful , same ebgine and transmittion as a truck , they are all 2wd

but they sell for less than a truck yet can be great haulers of tools , traps , building materials and most anything else a truck can do.

lots of good dry storage , more than a truck with topper

They are not common but I have seen 4x4 Van's before

Grab a FrontWD grand caravan, pull out the seats, throw in a tarp (or stink it up, your choice), and trap outta it.
All enclosed. Throw some studs on the front and yer rollin

Add a foam pad and sleeping bag, a fella can long line coon, save rent and have a different address every night.

I have always bought new and drove it till there wasn't much left. I feel like that is going to be the cheapest per mile cost. You can dealer shop. Tell them your dealer shopping. You will be surprised the difference in price from one dealer to the next. Im driving a 14 y/o dodge right now. I bought it for the life time drive train warranty. Well that was a bold faced lie. Found out when my water pump went out. Fiat bought Chrysler and they are not honoring those life time warranty's. So I have started looking around.

I really liked my 98 ranger. Only bought the dodge cause of the warranty. Was rebuilding the ford. Motor was getting weak at 250,000 miles. Rebuilt the frond end, rebuilt the brake system including lines, was ready to pull the trigger on a rebuilt long block and tranny (standard) with 100,000 mile warranty when my wife crashed it. Wife was fine so that was good.

Anyway my old dodge has a lot of rust and has some problems. Need a new truck. Have not seen any I like yet. Not sure what I will do. I am shopping before I have a "have to" buy a pickup problem.

Wow!!

This is a 2005 with 86,000 miles. It must be worth a fortune. lol

Our "retirement" vehicle has 60k on it now.

The woman and I, as we were approaching the age your at Coonman and planning ahead for retiring, we decided to buy a new vehicle and have it paid off before retiring.(our going away vehicle)
I run old stuff that I've rebuilt and have enough parts to do both again if needed which is something I take you couldn't do. (our daily drivers)

That's why I suggest you try to buy new while your still working like we did so you have a good reliable vehicle that should run you late into life without much extra expense.
Once you retire, you pretty much got what ya got unless you dip into your savings.

AWD Chevy Astrovan is nearly perfect trapping vechile

Trucks are high and gas to feed em is going to be a factor 15-17 is probably avg. Gonna be high for the next 4 years for sure . I would go with a all wheel suv that sports some mileage

Water pump is considered a wear item and has never been part of the Dodge/Chrysler 100,000 power train warranty Danny.

Buy a Toyota Corolla. You'll be set for years to come.

Sold my Dad's '06 Chevy 1/2 ton for $4100 this Jan.
2wd, 8ft box, extended cab and only 54,000 miles.
Big scratch/gouge all along the drivers side other than that it was in very good shape.

Would of sold for a lot more but no 4wd. Don't get stuck on 4wd. You can get by without. I drove 2wd pickups for years in conditions that now everyone claims they have to have 4wd.
4wd is a negative for 95% of the driving thats done with pickups. It adds weight, hurts gas mileage, costs more to buy and maintain. The key to getting around in snow and ice is traction, do what you can to increase traction with 2wd and you can do better than 99% of the 4wd trucks out there in the next snow/ice storm.

I have little use for a pickup myself so I declined taking my Dad's truck. Plus it had an extended cab which to me was a big negative, made the whole truck too long and harder to park/drive.



Invest in quality tires for snow/ice and a set of tire chains and you'll be fine with 2wd.

We are seeing high price on used trucks for several reasons.
1) there lots willing to spend well over 50K for a truck.
2) too few are willing to buy base model trucks and even few are pushing for cheaper simpler less expensive trucks.
3) There is a demand for pickups, even tho the vast majority of the owners don't have a need for them, its a want.
4) Mfg's see the demand for more and higher priced trucks and continually push the envelope up in accessories and options and thus the prices.

For someone who needs a working vehicle I'd advise a utility van. There are lots of them in the used market. They are base models made for work so they aren't loaded up with options that increase the cost and complexity of keeping them running.
And they can haul more stuff than any pickup out there. I have owned 1 ton GMC van that was an extended length one, NOTHING has more cargo room than a work/utility van. Next is a minivan.

Do some thinking about what you need and what you can do without and don't let emotion drive your choices.

I halled deer in my honda accord trunk, back floor board of a Ford probe, hood of 85 Chevrolet cheviot, in several mini Van's, SUVs and trucks. Its possible if you want it to work with what you have.

The mini Van's are nice. Ok mileage can hall 4x8 plywood and 10 foot lumber, you don't have to lift deer very high to get them loaded, most can have a tow hitch installed so a basket on the back isn't hard to add. The are also affordable.

Small Toyota's run forever and are fairly affordable as well.

Heck I could fit 26 8' 2x4s in my 98 honda accord. It dosen't have to be a truck for sure.

Bought a 93 Toyota extended cab with bad motor . Ordered new motor from place in California shipped to Alaska $1400 . Installed with new fly wheel and belts and hoses runs great . Have probably $2800 in to it . New Toyota extended cab probably $ 48,000 not going to do it no way . I also have a 94 Toyota truck and to 89 Ford 250 all run good easy to maintain and cheap to fix and all work I can do my self . Plus insurance cheap . By older and fix up is my suggestion

I trap where 4wd is a necessity.

BBARNES it absolutely is. Its on the warranty. I have no clue what your talking about. I BOUGHT A PICKUP WITH A LIFETIME AS LONG AS I OWN IT WARRANTY> ITS NOT BEING HONORED> FOR ANYTHING

PS I had it in to my local dealer every 3000 miles without fail for service. Have the records., It doesnt matter. DOdges new owner's are not honoring the old LIFETIME FOR ORIGINAL OWNER warranty. It was a promotion in that economic downturn 2007-2009 to get people to buy.


https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit...-action-says-lifetime-warranty-is-unfair

Got 3yr old that was a lease vechile for half price it sold for 3yr earlier! F150 5.0 supercab xlt 4x4 with 35,000 miles.

Just put water pump in, themostst an housing, new belt, complete new brakes , 3 weeks ago then power steer pump went out, now make whine noise somewhere, not loud but all time, now sounds like crack exhaust manifold noise like last summer but not bad , when cold until metal expands hot, had new exhaust cast iron manifold with cat out on back July, shop tommorow , maybe find out more, hope manifold under warrantee , not wanna or gonna buy manifold every 7 months

Nice

No, wear items are not covered under warranty. Like brake pads and exhaust, spark plugs dist cap, nope.
Barnes is correct in his statement.

Bust something in the "drive train" and you'll be covered.

Once a vehicle gets too old it is a money pit-you will be constantly changing out worn parts.

Look. i'm not making this up. I found out they are NOT honoring the warranty , for anything not just the water pump, when my water pump went out. I have no clue why you can't get that through your heads. Its not rocket science. I know what I bought and what Dodge will no longer honor. Here it is in black and white.

some of the maintenance log all done at the dealer

Fiat bought dodge and they are NOT standing behind those warranties.

Guess it was, Surprised tho.

Then is the issue of Chrysler being bought out. They should cover Chrysler's past commitments but in today's world, that's how most companies stay afloat.
Kinda like Ruger buying Marlin from Remington. Should Ruger have the responsibility of Remington wrongdoings?

Ive owned lots of vechiles and never had a problem with exhaust manifolds......

With any business deal they know what they are buying and getting into therefore yes they also bought all the warranty contracts along with everything else.

Danny
Tell them you want a letter of arbitration then. FYI they don’t like it when you ask for one!!!

B

Same here, I have owned a few vechiles in my life, and a few vehicles. Not one issue with the exhaust manifold.

My 97 5.8 EM is in bad shape, sounds horrible lol.

Turn up the radio, won’t be near as bad

I don't see it now, but didn't I see a post asking about spraying under the hood at a car wash and maybe that's what's cracking the exhaust????

Coonmans probably worried about them overheating and maybe rubs them down with dry ice after every trip?

The minaflods, that is

Thanks for the clarification

I would like to make a donation to the Dave vechile fund.

Could get a couple bucks for the meat.

So, what is everyone using for a trapping vechile?


Here is what mine looks like.

Just wish it had a longer bed..

I agree. Anything other than a 4X4 pickup or my side by side is worthless to me as a trapping vehicle.

X3

Side by sides are nice, Yamaha Viking is what I use. It isn’t mine but comes in handy.

Would be better if it had an enclosed cab.

But similar to the one pictured.

That thing looks like it would get hung up easy in rough country with the long wheelbase and small wheels.

It looks longer than it is. Picture seems deceptive. Maybe 6’ doesn’t hang up for me.

But, I see what you mean, could hang up on the right terrain.

Gets used at my adopted dads camp in Maine, no issues there either.

TRAPPIN VECHILE

I've noticed the used P/U market isn't what it was years ago. This is mostly due to fuel prices.

Years ago a lot of people drove a P/U as a car for daily transportation. Fuel prices have put a bit of a stop to this practice as it cost a lot to drive a P/U as a daily driver. Good, low mile , non-abused P/U's have gone by the wayside as they eat fuel. Most P/U's now are bought for heavier use/commercial use. Good low mileage , non-work use are kinda rare now. The used market reflects that.

Nice vechile!

And view!

Train wreck/bad accident on freeway....can't help but look.

I've got one pretty similar, but mine has the Ram Boxes. They are awesome! Jump out of the truck, pop the lid, grab what you need and go.

So listen to it shop parklot, not really hear whine much as I only one drive it, turn wheels hard, an make the noise but louder, remanufactured steer pump likely, but exhaust noise not hear warm up, possibly metal expand, did hear exhaust noise somewhere underneath that I been hear months, he say exhaust look decent by muffler, , so in 1500 Mile's gonna have oil change an check good, heat shield off by manifold an exhaust more stuff check, supposed be under warranty the manifold,yet, could be truck turn into money hole an get worse all time, not sure butblew lots it if blow more money I hope motor don't fail an run to 300 k, no idea what get into if trade with used vechile market so pricey

Is your insurance payed?
It is fire season you know.
Then you can pee and moan about something else for a change

Dave, I'd continue to change the oil and maybe rotate the tires, but other than that just stop worrying and drive that truck until it dies. It will probably surprise you how long it will last. In the mean time squirell away as much money as you can toward your next truck. Good luck.

Ya true, exhaust important, noise for months, if manifold, another noise, have be fix, under warantee, not driveanle if bad, other exhaust noise months, say pipe muffler look good but leak, it has variable exhaust speed timing, sound funny thru tailpipe , it probly won't run if that screw up though

Around here used pick-ups are very high priced. People who actually utilize or need a truck are buying used trucks because the new trucks are sky high in price. New trucks are high priced because its trendy to have a big new pick-up and use it as if it were a passenger car. I know a lot of people who have big extended cab trucks that will never put anything in the bed or tow anything. Now for the ones that are gonna chime in and say its a free country, people can drive what they want - I agree , but just because I can buy a Kenworth and use as a passenger vehicle doesnt mean I should.

A leaky exhaust system can make you groggy behind the wheel from the carbon monoxide-it could cause you to have a bad accident by nodding off behind the wheel.

Also behind the keyboard..............

Pictures please I think we would all like to see the beast!!


B

Guy I know in wy found a 1983 half ton ford with 55,000 miles on it!

A worn out truck is always going to be a worn out truck. Hard to sugar coat it. Somebody ditched it for a reason.

This is my trapping vehicle

I brought my 2015 in for frame inspection they coated it, greased it and put plugs in holes in the frame. But to me the most interesting thing was the service guy told me was he expects the truck market to drop. His words were "the guy that is president now that keeps raising gas prices you will see the truck market drop and everyone will be buying cars that get 30-40 miles a gallon" He said it happened before and will again.

Dont buy a 2021 F150 theyre having rust issues with those already!

Had shop last week exhaust leak other noise, determine one noise new power steer pump, exhaust leak, unknowfn, not have time or really wanna look it a week ago, say bring in morning leave over nite which impossible for me, think call shop, exhaust manifold under warranty that had put in last summer, I know exhaust manifold if crack, upon cold start , we'll make more noise tell warm up an run rough until metal expands hot an seal leak, it may have leak under somewhere also or whole thing, anyone know if something not right in pipes or by muffler if warm up, that seal exhaust leak an quiet down also or does this sound like exhaust manifold crack problem ?

Crack is always a problem. Seen people on it and it was not good. When it warms up they seem to smoke even more. LLL