I raise cattle west and east of aguilar. we are in a severe drought down here. 1st rifle season is a hard season to hunt in 85. have to get as high as you can in spanish peaks wilderness to get into any real amount of elk. if there is snow on the peaks the elk will be down low. no snow usually means no elk low. the elk that stay low year around are on ranches that dont hunt or stay on tiny ranches and raid hay fields and then disappear in the hills during day. dont respond to calls. hard to pattern.
2nd and 3rd season are fun in 85 if have access to private ground and snow on the peaks. elk are getting shot at constantly so always moving. when i take kids hunting we just sit all day in a good elk corridor area. the bulls will come sneaking in hugging the terrain and the cows come running like cattle to feed.
if the ranch you have access to has good water and canyon they feel comfortable and safe in. it might hold a small group bachelor bulls. down low there are a few good bulls. but in 85 down low if a legal bull comes in, shoot it. if you dont he will jump a fence and get shot by someone in neighboring ranch.
85 is broken up ranches. lots of 40, 60, 80, 100 acre ranches.
the good hayfields are usually all leased out by outfitters. and they protect and patrol ground religiously. been known to harass the elk to keep them from leaving land they hunt.
unit 85 is great unit for youth. my kids all kill cows, get a great long season and able to get them on alfalfa fields when every one else is done chasing them.
Thanks for the insight. I noticed that when i pulled up the On x maps the properties where broke up into pretty small tracks and that also concerns me. I think from what i have seen from google earth maps and your alls info I'm going to turn down the offer. While i would love to go on an elk hunt i think ill sit this one out.