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Biden on executive action for gun control

Posted By: Grandpa Trapper

Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 06:42 PM

Okay, lawyers and legal minds on here, what can can he do or not do and would it be legal? If he does executive action on guns can his orders be tied up in court?
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 06:48 PM

Obummer tried that and lost but with the playground rules we have today who knows when the Constitution and rule of law really don’t matter.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 06:50 PM

He can issue one but it wont be a law or enforceable. He isn’t a king.
Posted By: hippie

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 06:51 PM

Here's the skinny on them.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...-just-what-is-an-executive-action-anyway
Posted By: WyFurHarvesters

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 06:52 PM

Guessing like with the Trump executive orders what ever he wants until it is found unconstitutional that is why the executive orders need to be stopped as well as the political pardons. Both parties are getting to radical and right now it is causing a mess.
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
He can issue one but it wont be a law or enforceable. He isn’t a king.


Danny, he has people that will enforce it.

Keith
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 06:57 PM

The real problem is that the republicans don't have the balls to do anything about it. If shotgun Joey tried to pass an executive order that is clearly in violation of the constitution, He should by right be removed pronto for breaking the oath of his office. But the reps and SCOTUS will just watch it happen and keep their pie holes shut. He is breaking the law as I type this with what he is doing at the southern border. And what do we hear.... crickets. The republican would've a real case if they impeached this lying sack of sh....... but they all just huddled in a corner and do squat.
Posted By: yoteguts

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Scuba1
The real problem is that the republicans don't have the balls to do anything about it. If shotgun Joey tried to pass an executive order that is clearly in violation of the constitution, He should by right be removed pronto for breaking the oath of his office. But the reps and SCOTUS will just watch it happen and keep their pie holes shut. He is breaking the law as I type this with what he is doing at the southern border. And what do we hear.... crickets. The republican would've a real case if they impeached this lying sack of sh....... but they all just huddled in a corner and do squat.


X2
Posted By: white17

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 07:00 PM

Pretty hard to impeach when you have no control of the House
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 07:11 PM

White. If the republicans were to finally point out what the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) poor excuse of an administration is up to and get the public attention to is, I would bet that a few of the dems would cave in and support it as all they are interested in is to get re elected. And when that seems doubtful they may just get of they butts and do the right thing. It is a long shot but instead the reps decided to do nothing but collect their back handers and paychecks and fart into their seat cushions.
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 07:13 PM

The two party system at work. One doing the wrong thing and the other doing nothing. A glorious future ahead indeed. .... now where is that sarcasm emoji when one needs a dozen of them ??
Posted By: Fisher Man

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 07:14 PM

The man is a complete jerk. Guns don't kill people; people kill people.
Posted By: k snow

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by white17
Pretty hard to impeach when you have no control of the House


Fixed
Posted By: Donnersurvivor

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 07:30 PM

Pretend for a second they actually successfully impeached Biden, whos up next? Is that better? Even if they got rid of Harris whos up next? Is that better?

If the Feds are going to violate the constitution it's time for states to again start talking about succession, that is the only option if the courts will not bat down this lunacy.
Posted By: white17

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Scuba1
White. If the republicans were to finally point out what the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) poor excuse of an administration is up to and get the public attention to is, I would bet that a few of the dems would cave in and support it as all they are interested in is to get re elected. And when that seems doubtful they may just get of they butts and do the right thing. It is a long shot but instead the reps decided to do nothing but collect their back handers and paychecks and fart into their seat cushions.



You would think so but I have a hard time imagining any Democrat doing the right thing. The other road block would be trying to get articles of impeachment through the committee procedure. Not a chance of that happening ....ever IMO
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 07:46 PM

The right thing has been out the window for years now it’s all about power and control until they are stopped.
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 07:55 PM

The Second Amendment needs to be protected by bearing arms against the tyrannical government the Second Amendment was written to protect against. Otherwise all rights will be lost. It needs to be thousands of Americans coming together, in an organized, righteous manner, not lone actors.

Keith
Posted By: Sprung & Rusty

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by WyFurHarvesters
Guessing like with "every other president's" executive orders what ever he wants until it is found unconstitutional that is why the executive orders need to be stopped as well as the political pardons. Both parties are getting to radical and right now it is causing a mess.

Fixed it for you.
Posted By: patrapperbuster

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Scuba1
The real problem is that the republicans don't have the balls to do anything about it. If shotgun Joey tried to pass an executive order that is clearly in violation of the constitution, He should by right be removed pronto for breaking the oath of his office. But the reps and SCOTUS will just watch it happen and keep their pie holes shut. He is breaking the law as I type this with what he is doing at the southern border. And what do we hear.... crickets. The republican would've a real case if they impeached this lying sack of sh....... but they all just huddled in a corner and do squat.



I like to believe there is a behind the scenes good reason for doing nothing right now. Lets see what the near future might bring. Think positive for now
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 08:17 PM

The will do what they want as long as that fence and the troops are there to hide behind, the Red States should pull any troops they have there if any.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 08:23 PM

Nowhere in the constitution does the president get the power to pass law with an executive order. Its a non issue. He doesn’t have that kind of power. So Kieth, just who do you think will try enforcing it? Under what law?
Posted By: Boco

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
Nowhere in the constitution does the president get the power to pass law with an executive order. Its a non issue. He doesn’t have that kind of power. So Kieth, just who do you think will try enforcing it? Under what law?


The secret police?
Posted By: teepee2

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 08:50 PM

Thats only in Canada. laugh
Posted By: harrison72

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Scuba1
The real problem is that the republicans don't have the balls to do anything about it. If shotgun Joey tried to pass an executive order that is clearly in violation of the constitution, He should by right be removed pronto for breaking the oath of his office. But the reps and SCOTUS will just watch it happen and keep their pie holes shut. He is breaking the law as I type this with what he is doing at the southern border. And what do we hear.... crickets. The republican would've a real case if they impeached this lying sack of sh....... but they all just huddled in a corner and do squat.

This is probably the best response and overall explanation ever!
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by harrison72
Originally Posted by Scuba1
The real problem is that the republicans don't have the balls to do anything about it. If shotgun Joey tried to pass an executive order that is clearly in violation of the constitution, He should by right be removed pronto for breaking the oath of his office. But the reps and SCOTUS will just watch it happen and keep their pie holes shut. He is breaking the law as I type this with what he is doing at the southern border. And what do we hear.... crickets. The republican would've a real case if they impeached this lying sack of sh....... but they all just huddled in a corner and do squat.

This is probably the best response and overall explanation ever!


It is pretty hard to argue with this logic.
Posted By: Ringneck1

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 09:03 PM

Do we really think the dems are gonna vote to impeach their newly seated guy? ive got some land for sale with a huge golden bridge on it if you do. Dems are famous for circling the wagons to the extent that impeach legislation will never leave the house. They may well extinguish Joe when his usefulness has passed, but it will be on their terms, not the Rs.
Posted By: Golf ball

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 09:31 PM

I truly believe they wanted Harris and new she could not beat Trump even with voter fraud. They will not impeach him even if it turns out that he is Chester the molester. Only the republicans turn on their own , the democrats may declare Joe has lost his cheese and replace him with Harris. I said in the beginning this was the plan all along and don’t think he will make it a full year. She needs to be in office long enough to seem credible before the next election.
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
Nowhere in the constitution does the president get the power to pass law with an executive order. Its a non issue. He doesn’t have that kind of power. So Kieth, just who do you think will try enforcing it? Under what law?


biden quite obviously does not believe he is bound by the US Constitution. biden's huge number of followers don't believe he is bound by the US Constitution either. biden is the chief executive in the US. Enough people will enforce what he tells them to whether it's Constitutional or not.

I don't see anyone stepping up to stop biden.

Keith
Posted By: Scott__aR

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 11:29 PM

If government can't/won't do the will of the people ... there is always 'the peoples' recall! It's just more work to be done successfully.
Posted By: Boco

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/24/21 11:57 PM

Trump knows all about the peoples recall.
Posted By: Feedinggrounds

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 12:03 AM

Our biggest problem is not the party in power. It's the spineless party not in power right now. The Republican party has been a huge Paul Ryan type coward for a while now.
Posted By: Garryowen

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 12:23 AM

They say we don't have a right to own guns. Yes we do. It's right there in the constitution. Those that want to take our guns away don't have the right to do so. They are not kings or dictators yet.

Garryowen
Posted By: rex123

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 12:30 AM

After every thing that has happened and nobody has done anything I firmly think they will do what they want with little or no one stopping them. Post on T MAN don't count.
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by Garryowen
They say we don't have a right to own guns. Yes we do. It's right there in the constitution. Those that want to take our guns away don't have the right to do so. They are not kings or dictators yet.

Garryowen


The Second Amendment ultimately only has any meaning if Americans are willing to come together and use it. Americans are clearly no longer willing to do that. Living in America will have to get much worse first. We collectively suck.

Keith
Posted By: Garryowen

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 12:48 AM

We are not subjects yet. Our Congress is supposed to be our representatives. We need to tell our representatives how we feel about them voting against the constitution.

Garryowen
Posted By: Jtrapper

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 01:32 AM

Our representatives? They represent EVERYONE on the planet BUT us the voters, what few there are left of us. With rigged election's no one needs those smelly walmart voter's anymore.

But im sure no show Joe won't do a thing to harm gun ownership, too many 'enlightened' communist in our ranks voted for him for that to happen.

And i have no clue why anyone keeps harping about the constitution, that document hasn't been paid any attention in so long most don't even know what it is anymore or what it was suppose to be.

Never saw in it where gov. prints free money for everyone yet here we are.
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Garryowen
We are not subjects yet. Our Congress is supposed to be our representatives. We need to tell our representatives how we feel about them voting against the constitution.

Garryowen


I don't think there is any doubt in all US legislators' minds that many Americans want to have their Second Amendment Rights left alone. Sadly, I don't think there is any doubt in those legislators' minds that no more than a handful, at most , would use those right to defend their rights. The legislators know they face no meaningful consequences for their unconstitutional actions and lack of support of the Constitution.

Keith
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 01:37 AM

Your right to be armed has nothing to do with the constitution. It only recognizes that right. It doesn't grant it.
Posted By: Marty

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 01:48 AM

We all have certain and unalienable rights given by God. The founders and constitution just put that on paper they did not grant them...

"All people are born free and equal, and have certain natural, essential and unalienable rights; among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties; that of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property; in fine, that of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness."

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Posted By: Marty

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 01:53 AM

Short video, watch it all and pay attention...especially to the end.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
Your right to be armed has nothing to do with the constitution. It only recognizes that right. It doesn't grant it.

Nor take it away...unless you allow it.
Posted By: Furvor

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 02:27 AM

So now Harris is charged with fixing southern border problems but given no authority to reverse policies that created them. Nice dodge. Can a woman actually be a fall guy?
Posted By: Cragar

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by Furvor
Can a woman actually be a fall guy?


She does have some practice being on her back. Does that count ? blush
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by Marty
We all have certain and unalienable rights given by God. The founders and constitution just put that on paper they did not grant them...

"All people are born free and equal, and have certain natural, essential and unalienable rights; among which may be reckoned the right of enjoying and defending their lives and liberties; that of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property; in fine, that of seeking and obtaining their safety and happiness."

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."


The rights were given by God, but we have the duty of making sure we keep them. Americans are failing miserably at using our God given right to defend ourselves to keep that right.

Keith
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 01:03 PM

The crazy thing is Marty, how many folks will give Bozo a kiss before they go to work in the morning to then give him their hard earned cash when they get home.
Posted By: Providence Farm

Re: Biden on executive action for gun control - 03/25/21 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Garryowen
We are not subjects yet. Our Congress is supposed to be our representatives. We need to tell our representatives how we feel about them voting against the constitution.

Garryowen


I don't think there is any doubt in all US legislators' minds that many Americans want to have their Second Amendment Rights left alone. Sadly, I don't think there is any doubt in those legislators' minds that no more than a handful, at most , would use those right to defend their rights. The legislators know they face no meaningful consequences for their unconstitutional actions and lack of support of the Constitution.

Keith


True to a large extent but they still have some fear. Otherwise they would not bother with the gard and fencing.
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