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Posted By: warrior

Just following orders - 05/10/21 03:20 PM

For those unaware Artur Pawlowski and his brother have been arrested in Canada. Their crime, pastoring a church in violation of Covid restrictions.

Posted By: warrior

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 03:22 PM

As a conservative I default to back the blue but not anymore. Just following orders is what the Nazis claimed at Nuremberg.
Posted By: yukon254

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by warrior
As a conservative I default to back the blue but not anymore. Just following orders is what the Nazis claimed at Nuremberg.


exactly
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 04:25 PM

I wonder how much more they have to to do before people will push back in a big way.
Posted By: Posco

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 04:34 PM

Godless leftist governments. Our church met yesterday in open defiance to Caesar and his mask and attendance decrees. We're going through Revelation right now and the woes that are coming this way.
Posted By: loosegoose

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 04:36 PM

Cops dragging a pastor away in cuffs for holding a forbidden church service should be enough to boil anyone's blood. I suspect, though, that there are plenty of cops here in America who wouldn't be willing to give their career and pension and would do the exact same thing.
Posted By: warrior

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 04:37 PM

I'm afraid it will never happen. Their was never a German resistance movement, the Soviets collapsed under their own economic weight and the Long March is set to own the globe.

I've been waiting and hoping, thought Jan 6 was a good start, but I'm fast losing hope.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 04:43 PM

Christianity will come under persecution here in the US.

I read about a school where grade school students had face masks that had BLM written on them. One little girl had a face mask that said, Jesus Loves You. She was told to take it off or be suspended until she did.

I wonder if a Muslim had a face mask in that same school that said, Allah Is One, would receive the same treatment?
Posted By: TC1

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 04:47 PM

I am still of the hope that the forces here are not as brainwashed and will stand by our side when the time has come! The Nuremberg relation is spot on though!
Posted By: The Possum Man

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by warrior
As a conservative I default to back the blue but not anymore. Just following orders is what the Nazis claimed at Nuremberg.

yes sir. I agree.
Posted By: Providence Farm

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 04:48 PM

Some of that superior freedom boco tells us about. Sadly the us is on the same path.
Posted By: Bigfoot

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 05:06 PM

It just proves the point that they will be able to find police that will enforce any unjust confiscation of rights or property that they see fit . It sure makes it hard to support Any LE when there brethren are pulling crap like that .
Posted By: grampy

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 05:12 PM

Not only that. They barricaded a church with 2 rings of fencing, akin to the Whitehouse fencing, and then covered the outer layer with a black covering and have police presence to keep it from reopening. This is B/S and to me the whole shutdown crap is based on statistics which have been acknowledged as being fudged.
People here who should have access to hospitals for various concerns being kept out in order to keep care space open - just in case- there is a rise in covid cases. It is almost like it doesn't matter if people die from other causes as long as we can have nobody die from covid . Rant over
Posted By: warrior

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 05:35 PM

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Posted By: Marty

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 05:39 PM

It is very common for socialists to arrest church leaders whenever they have taken over.....
Posted By: Posco

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 05:42 PM

I thought this was a pretty good read and this seems like as good a place to plug it in as any.

https://genzconservative.com/resist-the-dark-tyranny/
Posted By: Mike in A-town

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 06:09 PM

Waiting for one of the boot-licking statists to come along and tell us how this is actually a good thing... "for the greater good"... "there's a pandemic occurring don't you know"... "do you want grandma to die?"

Mike
Posted By: J Staton

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 06:15 PM

As soon as the Equality Act passes these type things will be commonplace here in the U.S.
Posted By: WiscoNate

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 06:39 PM

This probably wont be popular, but it's been a long time since I've cared about popularity. wink

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Posted By: cfowler

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Marty
It is very common for socialists to arrest church leaders whenever they have taken over.....

Yes it is.
Posted By: jeff karsten

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I have no words.

You better wake up Canadians!!!

Who you gonna wake up when it happens here
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 07:15 PM

It has already started
Posted By: hooftrimmer20

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Well, half the population will endorse it here.

We had some serious discussions at our church this past Sunday.

All Christians should proudly wear the badge of extremist. Do not cower and do not fold. IT IS OK TO BE A CHRISTIAN. If half of those people I refer to have any respect for someone different than them then Christians will be fine.

If we go towards socialism like we are now, this will happen in the US. It may be a decade or more, but the road we are on is a road that leads to oppression and not freedom. Anyone who can't see that needs to look at the history of modern day Venezuela. That is how fast it can happen.

Socialism is like drugs. The end of the road is never good. You have to turn back.


well said
Posted By: Providence Farm

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by WiscoNate
This probably wont be popular, but it's been a long time since I've cared about popularity. wink

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I saw an SUV with a come and take it sticker right beside a thin blue line sticker. I guess they don't realize who will be coming to take it.
Posted By: J Staton

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 08:46 PM

As trappers we should know better to paint a group, in this case the police, with such a broad brush.
Posted By: warrior

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by J Staton
As trappers we should know better to paint a group, in this case the police, with such a broad brush.


True, but here's the issue. In many areas the good ones that will keep their oath are being driven out. The ones remaining will follow orders or else.
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 09:24 PM

I'll be on the blues side as long as they are on my side. Its that simple. Once they start with the so called red flag crap, they are just armed trespassers and will be dealt with as such.
Posted By: WiscoNate

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by WiscoNate
This probably wont be popular, but it's been a long time since I've cared about popularity. wink

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I saw an SUV with a come and take it sticker right beside a thin blue line sticker. I guess they don't realize who will be coming to take it.


There's a lot of that going around. "Don't Tread On Me!" & "Back The Blue!" are incompatible. Cops are government agents, and government is always using force against the noncompliant.
Posted By: J Staton

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by J Staton
As trappers we should know better to paint a group, in this case the police, with such a broad brush.


True, but here's the issue. In many areas the good ones that will keep their oath are being driven out. The ones remaining will follow orders or else.

Sadly this is also true. I expect a defunding of local police and the creation of a national police. Those popo will definitely enforce the "law". Imo.
Posted By: warrior

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 10:47 PM

Actually the ones we conservatives need to support and empower is our local sheriff. In most states the county sheriff is directly elected by his constituents and is the highest law enforcement officer in his county. In this regard he or she trumps the feds and serves a dual role of enforcement of state law but protection of his or her county from all threat including state or federal over reach.
Posted By: loosegoose

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Providence Farm



I saw an SUV with a come and take it sticker right beside a thin blue line sticker. I guess they don't realize who will be coming to take it.

I work on cop cars, and lots of them have "molon labe", "don't tread on me" type patches on their equipment bags, water bottles, etc. I wonder if they know what their job might be. Politicians and police are the only ones with any actual power to do any treading upon.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 11:16 PM

Who enforces red flag and illegal carry laws in the communist states????????????????????????
Posted By: warrior

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 11:22 PM

Just to expound on my sheriff comment.

What if each red voting county in each state were able to field a company sized unit of 100-200 armed citizens?

That would be an army of 250,000 to 500,000.

Yes, I know that over half of those forces would be out of position to effect change in the blue counties.

However, how could the blue ever hope to rule over the red with a army of that size loose in the countryside.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Just following orders - 05/10/21 11:35 PM

Marx wrote extensively on the need to eliminate Judeo-Christian religion as a major step in reorganizing Western society.
Here we are 150 years later.
Pastors are allowed to be pastors up to the edge of whatever the human powers that be "say so."
The Christian God? What? Really? Lol is what most in our now pagan land would place in their "good riddance" to this law-breaking pastor. Throw the book at this dude who won't follow Caesar.

It has been a steady, methodical march to human achievement in our lifetime, and the vast majority of poorly educated Americans in all things history, just think we are plucked into a world stage and "it is what it is." Pass the salsa and chips and hand me another beer wouldja.

Society is a fabric of many things, most of which - if they are wholesome and moral - are cast overboard in today's culture.

As always, the remnant will arise as promised.
We pray it was everyone rowing the boat.

Blessings,
Mark

Posted By: grisseldog

Re: Just following orders - 05/11/21 01:05 AM

It’s coming to the US
Just wait and see
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Just following orders - 05/11/21 01:47 AM

Very few pagans in the U.S. Mark. Need to go to Iceland or England. Even there the number is small. Pagans pose no threat to your belief. They are a live and let live bunch from what I have seen.

Communists are a different story. They wont tolerate any religion. At least The Soviet Union did not. China has never bothered Buddhists much. Some other religions have been persecuted there. Both places are starting to tolerate religion. Russian Orthodoxy is coming back. Still no love in Russia for Jews.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Just following orders - 05/11/21 01:48 AM

This mask thing is beyond getting old. Everywhere. Not just Church. Some really gullible people in this world.
Posted By: warrior

Re: Just following orders - 05/11/21 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
Very few pagans in the U.S. Mark. Need to go to Iceland or England. Even there the number is small. Pagans pose no threat to your belief. They are a live and let live bunch from what I have seen.

Communists are a different story. They wont tolerate any religion. At least The Soviet Union did not. China has never bothered Buddhists much. Some other religions have been persecuted there. Both places are starting to tolerate religion. Russian Orthodoxy is coming back. Still no love in Russia for Jews.


There are a huge number of pagans by strict definition of irreligious or not professing Christian.
China most definitely persecuted both Christians and Muslims with concentration camps.

Question, why persecute that which is not true or a threat?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Just following orders - 05/11/21 02:03 AM

America is a very religious nation because Americans place faith in all sorts of worshipping.
Everyone has faith here in the land of the free and home of the brave it seems.
"What's in your wallet?" is catchy and so true.


Blessings,
Mark
Posted By: Bigfoot

Re: Just following orders - 05/11/21 02:07 AM

The only reason it didn't happen here , [if it didn't ] is that the proper combination of grand standing famous Pastor and grand standing Mayor / health dept was never achieved . There are several cities in the US that would have done the same thing to that pastor . The state of California might have also . I would be entirely surprised if it hasn't happened here it just wasn't as dramatic or publicised. There have been many stories from across America were police have showed up to services to either shut them down or enforce edicts by the covid Nazis. It just never
quite progressed this way .
Posted By: KenaiKid

Re: Just following orders - 05/11/21 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by J Staton
As trappers we should know better to paint a group, in this case the police, with such a broad brush.


True, but here's the issue. In many areas the good ones that will keep their oath are being driven out. The ones remaining will follow orders or else.


This is true. And there's also some merit to the concept of "guit by association." I tend to be biased against any government employee, simply because they chose to be part of the bureaucracy. But I also acknowledge that some of them are solid constitutionalists who are trying to effect change from the inside, and I can respect that. I try not to judge pre-emptively. Like we've seen in red-flag states, the truly good cops will take a stand when the chips are down. The ones that are left can face the consequences.
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