Canadian gun laws, y'all guys are screwed.

This is a long watch so you might want to save this for later but we'll worth watching if you want understand our friend Boco.

Well I aint watching 2 hours of BS but I got no problem with most of our laws here.There is the odd stupid ones just like you got.

And here we go. Again.

Why, afraid you'll learn something?

All three of those guys are attorneys two Canadian and one American.

so, boco...if you don't have a problem with most of your gun laws, WHY do you feel the need to denigrate our (much more lenient) gun laws?????

seems disingenuous, at best!

I dont denigrate-you do.I respond.Double.

I never once started a negative thread.

Oh, canada.....

I agree with Boco. You guys down there think we need to ask the Queen for permission before we leave our house. I don’t have a problem with the gun laws we have right now.
There’s also a gun in my truck more days then there’s not. Just got to make sure the gun isn’t visible and the doors are locked when I’m in the store shopping. No problem!

No, but she holds a lot of power over your I mean her country
The Queen snaps her fingers and Canadian army does her bidding
And I got more. Maybe you hosers should learn your own TRUE history
An independent country since 1982. That is some funny stuff
And your so free.

I take mine in the store with me. Sometimes covered by a jacket, some times exposed for all the world to see.


Can you say the same?



Charlie

I have carried guns in and out of gunstores,I dont see why in the world anyone would want to carry a gun to go get groceries,thats retarded,maybe you want to shoot a watermelon?
Here a gun is nothing more than a tool.

Nope! I said what I can do and I’m ok with that. Do you think you could fight off a man or two or three with your bare hands?

We can actually keep them loaded and out in the open in our homes. We can actually defend ourselves with them.

Heck here's a strange conundrum. Let's say a convicted felon or some other prohibited person is attacked by an animal or person and is in reasonable fear of death or grave bodily harm then spots a firearm just laying within reach he or she is absolutely allowed to use whatever means necessary to stop the attack including the firearm.
Basically in the US the right of self defense is absolute.

Sorry bud we dont live in fear here.

X2

No you live in a British colony.

I don't like the idea of asking permission to do something from people I probably don't like to do something they don't like.

You do that every day you drive a car.
Without a govt licence you dont go nowhere.Unless you claim to be a sovereign citizenLOL.

here, it is Freedom.

while the following quote also applies to us, it does more so to Canadians...

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Even a pistol? I thought you subjects were not trusted with a pistol.

We can own pistols but you need a "Restricted Firearms" license. You need to take a whole separate training course to get them.
I do envy your guys' gun laws. Pretty soon we will only be allowed to have a .22 and maybe a 4-10 if our "Prime-minister" keeps crying and making laws over "mass-shootings" and banning "scary" guns like ar-15s. We can still own ar-18s, I guess they aren't as scary as a ar-15 is. Canada (the way it is right now) is a communist and socialist Country and there's no if and or buts about it.

No one I know enjoys going to the DMV but I'd guess most folks understand why we issue a driver's license. It's not a partisan issue. Every human being should embrace all of the autonomy and sovereignty they can claim for themselves. Even though I might like you, I may not want you micro managing my life. Government even less so.

Way I was taught by my father, way I was taught in the military, way I treat the subject. We have our gun worshippers up here but never understood the fetish......might as well put special coatings and grips on my axe, maybe a sling, special hand tooled leather covering.

You guys have never owned a fine double barrel shotgun? You're missing out.

Blinded by the "light" ...

Everyone fight nicely now...


Ian Runkle has an excellent Youtube channel if you ever have any questions about your rights and/or obligations under the law in Canada. It can be dry (he presents case law regarding self defense, what constitutes a "weapon dangerous to the public peace", carrying knives, etc.)
He has done the research for you so you can spend a half hour watching instead of 8 hours reading.

As for our laws, I don't like them but they definitely could be worse. My wish list would be:
1. Eliminate classifications (prohibited, restricted, non-restricted) for all except fully automatic firearms which would require a special certification (similar to a US tax stamp)
2. Allow purchase, ownership and transport of pistols via a standard firearms license (we'll never lose the licensing regime here)
3. Allow open or concealed carry of a handgun via special licensing... no other criteria, you do the training and get the license, you can carry
4. NO REGISTRATION
5. NO banning of firearms based on their appearance or on public opinion (AR15 and others under the Order In Council)

I (apparently) disagree with most of the other Canadians on here, but I respect their opinion and understand where it comes from.

These threads are funny.

I might order a gun today, get it in the mail.

Yes some laws are silly.

I can legally use s firearm to defend myself and property.

I wonder how much of his life warrior spends on YouTube. He must be a shareholder.

It's a tool here too. There is evil in the world and evil has no problems with going to get groceries or anywhere else. Dangerous freedom or peaceful slavery. On your driver license example in the U.S. driving, is not in our bill of rights.

Just because you guys justify the restrictions does not make them anything but what they are really restricted laws.

Takes one to know one. Hahahahahahahaha Pakistanada !! Did your Man Queen let them citizen travelers out of Quarentine yet Mr.Pakistanada freedom guy??

See highlighted below.

Hahahaaaaa,,,that's what everyone does at gun stores,,,HAhahaaaaaaa

Federalist 46

Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprizes of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.

x3

REALLY, You get your facts from Utube

Myside, grow up before you spout stuff you don't understand

Too bad Canada doesn’t have the second amendment. Same thing may happen there as in Australia and New Zealand. The flick of the pen by the higher ups and in a flash, there goes their rights. No second amendment to fall back on but at the mercy of the dictator leading that country.

I carry a handgun to church every time.

Our pastor is from Texas. Once when the issue came up about parishioners and guns, he said, we should want our churchgoers to carry guns to church. He may carry one himself, I don't know. He doesn't advertise it if he does.

Let me clarify the differences as embodied in the Second Amendment. Something most on both sides of the border fail to understand.

But let me back up with this opening phrase, We believe that all men are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights.

Note the bold, 2A guarantees nothing nor grants anything it merely recognizes and prohibits any intrusion upon something all free men are born with.

You see we Americans believe to the core of our being that every soul that draws breath has independent and innate sovereignity as given by the Supreme authority. That belief extends to all of mankind, even canucks. All legitimate governance is a compact made between sovereigns and serve but one purpose to preserve the liberty of the individual.

The British Imperial system, and others, long ago replaced that with Divine Right that emplaced all sovereignity in a sovereign. The effect of which is that most of the world's populace have never recognized and accepted their sacred birthright even as the obvious devolution of Devine Right waned.

It is truly sad to see sentient beings without the spark and spirit of their Creator in them.

With the way things are going I anticipate churches becoming more of a target for the unhinged left. I think it was just last Sunday as I was sitting in church, I wondered about how I would respond to someone coming in with evil intent on their mind. I don't carry in church though I'm not opposed to it.

I traveled to Alaska to do some work for an old missionary/pastor friend of mine. After the work was done I took a few days to travel about my old haunts for nostalgia sake. The pastor gave me a handgun to protect myself in my travels. I'm convinced he would take a bullet and die if it meant he could witness to someone about Christ. He didn't want me taking a bullet without a fight. The fleshly side of me would want to go out blazing to protect myself or those I cared about. If I had time to think about it, maybe I'd take the bullet like my pastor friend if it meant losing my life. My current pastor thinks there will be martyrs in this country before things are done. I'm inclined to agree. We're not fighting just flesh and blood, the battle is in the spiritual realm.

Why was your election stolen then and no one did anything with their truckload of machine guns?
Either you dont really believe your election was a fraud,or your so called 2nd right is nothing more than a priviledge.

By the way-the most restrictive gun laws have never kept a freedom fighter from getting or using weaponry if the people have the balls to fight.

Lots of you live in fantasyland.

No, we're waiting for sufficient provocation. You have no understanding of the American patriotic mindset.

I hate to say it but I begrudgingly agree. Our states have by and large surrendered their sovereignity at the altar of federal cash. Even our local county and city governments have been coopted by federal money in many cases at odds with their own states. We have been truly divided and conquered.

Ottawa doesn't care about you guys living on the frontier. You're an afterthought.

I think we're ultimately going to lose the war. Every day steps are being taken, surreptitiously, to weaken our sovereignty. It's not limited to us, it's global in scope. We're not fighting flesh and blood, those guys are mere puppets.

Very well written, this should be the end of the discussion. I hope Boco and company read this and take it to heart, and quit trying to defend their oppressors.

I must of missed the big uprising after they banned all of those guns up there. LOL

We've been threw this a million times already. Different countries,different people,different laws. Let's move on.

I must of missed big uprising after they banned all of those guns up there. LOL

There didn't have to be an uprising, because nobody paid attention... lol

There is no uprising-I still have all my guns.You guys are gobbling up the fake news again,lol.
Our gun laws for the most part are good common sense,with the exception of a few dumb ones that dont really affect 99% of people who use guns in Canada.

And the results are, can’t speak for Canada , but in the USA, gun laws have done little to stop gun crimes. In NY State with its strict gun laws, the vast majority of criminals incarcerated here who used a gun committing their crime, have had the gun charge pleaded down. My son in law is a corrections officer and he has access to inmates arrest and conviction records, and it proves my statement.

All that means is the only thing you own is a single shot shotgun,,and you can own it,,you just cant take it out of your closet or have any ammo for it.BBBWWWaaahahahahahaaha PAKISTANADA freedom right there.You keep not answereing my question about the FREE Canada land citezens on quarantine.The Man Queen let them free yet??

What did I miss here about not being able to take our guns out or have ammo for them? I got a dozen rifles and shotguns. Pump, bolt and single shot. No semis cause I don't like them in the cold. I take them out whenever I want and don't need anyone's permission for it. Got tons of ammo too. My guns are tools for putting plenty of wild meat on the table and trapping. We eat wild meat and fish most every day of the week and once a week is all the factory farm meat gets on our table and would be less except the wife like pork chops and chicken.

Am concerned for the future though as urbanites dominate the vote and they think guns are bad.

Looks to me like Canadians don't want any guns they can't have.

All them guns the Man Queen says we cant have,,I didn't want one anyhow. Yea right,,,BWAhahahaaa

Had to really try to remember my log in to post again-

Anyway- so suppressors, thermal, ar 15's none of that are important or wanted by Canadians?

What are the laws you guys have?

How long does it take to buy one?

Do you have limits on ammo or anything?

I'm guessing there's a national registry of gunowners, too...

X2. I agree.

Trapperlee, I'll try to answer a few for you...
Suppressors not legal
Thermal I believe legal to buy but you can't hunt at night here (Ontario at least)
Ou need a license to purchase guns and ammo which requires a weekend long course,a test and a background check
You can purchase and take home a gunin 15 minutes and we can purchase guns and ammo online and have them shipped
No real limits on ammo that I'm aware of
Laser sights OK for target but not hunting
Handgun laws are a whole other response

Thanks for sharing, slydogx.

national gunowner registry?

White Marlin, since we require licenses there exists a de facto registry of "licensees" so...yes

Someone refresh my memory: Didn't Canada attempt a national registry some years ago that did not go well? Something like it cost twice what the government said it would and compliance was low....

Yes, we suffered with a registry formany years. It was exponentially more expensive than estimated.
Finally got rid of it under the Harper government.
It sucked and it didn't save a single life.
There is scandal brewing now as it seems that the RCMP did not destroy registry records despite being court ordered to do so.

I recently had an assault charge against me and the police flagged my P.A.L (possession acquisition license) (need this in order to buy/own a firearm) and when I went to Cabelas to buy a new gun the guy told me I wasn’t allowed to buy it until I get this cleared up.
I called the police and had them remove the hold that was placed on my license. The officer told me he has no clue what kind or how many guns I have.

I would say they don’t know what a guy has unless they see it with their own eyes.

I would agree with you JP...they will only know whether or not you are licensed. Theoretically, they could know about any guns you purchased during the years the registry was in place but they'd have no way to know what you sold, bought or traded after the law was repealed

How does a registry keep someone from murdering?

How are the AR’s in -40? Would be alright to have one but what I have does the job and that’s all I’m concerned about. Carry on though, it’s entertaining now that hunting is done for the season.

The needing a license to own or buy part bothers me, no matter which country you're in.

Trapdog1 a dilemma. How about mental cases including violent holy warriors. Should they be able to buy unrestricted? Other side is who decides who is a mental case and where does that slip into who is an enemy of a paranoid left or right state.

I am imagining your theory might be let everyone have guns and deal w the nut cases yourself if necessary. After all there is not a police man by every house and even if there were nobody will fight for you like yourself if your butt is on the line.

I will go with sanity checks/licence in order to buy firearms acknowledging in a govt. that, goes far enough left or right, paranoia can get anyone who disagrees on the banned list. Not a black and white question.

The question is related to abortion and capital punishment and not always black and white in IMO. Threads like this will come and go and the arguments have all been presented and no one has anything new to add.

Every day there are new threats to our 2nd Amendment right. The argument does change. We have full-blown communists running our country. That's hyperbolic, they're just lunatic leftists but they present a threat and need to be addressed. If you had consensus on the issue something might be done but we don't have that. I have a problem letting people I don't like or trust dictate my life. I'm no threat to anyone until they are a threat to me. That goes for the overwhelming majority of gun owners in this country.

If was certain rather than strongly suspect the election was stolen, what happened in DC would not have been so peaceful. I am not the only American who is not sure.

I'm with you, Danny. These aren't benevolent people we're dealing with. They are trying to crush the American people.

All them guns the man queen says we can't have are still hanging in the gun rack and being used when ever we want them to use them... and always will...... But you are right, Why would I ever want an AK, AR, whatever

I made it to sixty years old before I had any desire for one. Black rifles never appealed to me, not until I saw the attempted hostile takeover of my country.

The attitude of "I don't need one, so nobody else does" is how we will lose them all

I want one solely BECAUSE it torques them off and they don't want me to have one!

I think the answer is: Freedom is sometimes a messy business.

Freedom is an illusion the US has done an excellent job of selling its people. The proof is in the thinking that a gun makes one free.

Our chains sit more lightly upon us than the constraints you wear. Paraphrasing one of our guys. Kinda.

Posco, please elaborate on how so. I ask you to do so without name dropping “The Constitution”. That’s the biggest part of the propaganda machine that keeps Americans believing they are so free.

I’m open to honest and sincere dialogue. In what ways beside gun laws do our “chains sit more tightly than yours? I’m not chiming in to take jabs at individuals like the middle school bullies on here, but would honestly like to know what makes you feel so free. I think the US is a free country for the most part, like us, but less free than many places. The belief in freedom there is sold from the get go of your birth by the machine that wants you to think that. Having the bulk of the populace accept that idea as undeniable has been and is extremely profitable.

So honestly, in what ways are you so free?

I appreciate your spirit but I don't have time just now to discuss it. I'll get back to you when I get freed up. No pun intended.

Has anyone bothered to watch the video where a Canadian gun rights attorney gives actual examples.

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Don't recall saying a gun makes you free.

Trapdog, sorry for not being more clear. I was not saying you said that I was just saying something about freedom. In regards to saying a gun says you’re free, it was not you, but that very sentiment is stated exactly in this thread, first post of page 2.

I just picked up this mint model 760 for my dad last week. Probably get my kids a rifle next week. Thinking about 243

One? Get two or three

In some countries freedom would be taking the watermelon for free without having a gun in the pocket.

Understood!
I think the thing we all want and should have is the Freedom to own firearms without undue government interference.

"We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

nice ryan. i am jealous. those old guns have made a lot of meat

I think warrior summed it up nicely above. Basically, what most non-Americans fail to understand is that the right to keep and bear arms is set forth and specifically enshrined within their constitution. Unlike any other country I can think of it is guaranteed as a right and not considered a privilege. What many people from the colonies fail to understand is that these rights were set forth specifically because the English monarchy (and this is verifiable fact) where such horrible, brazen dictators. SO "The Crown" so important to Canada's founding were very much the villain in the history of the USA and by their behavior facilitated the need for armed citizenry.
Their constitution is as valid as anyone else's regardless of how it differs.
I fail to see how so many here are off put by their gun laws. I travel extensively there and feel just as safe as I do at home.

Summed it up well. Thank you.

This here is the reality.

FAIL!

if your theory were indeed valid, .gov would not be trying to take/regulate guns away; they would be encouraging citizens to "arm up" to perpetuate their illusion.

Owning a firearm wont make you more free. I have less freedom today than what i was born with and that FACT really bothers me.

While partially true yes you have less freedom. How did all those before you have even more freedom? Do you think you would keep your dwindling freedom with out guns?

They caught for it against all odds and won! Few are willing to give up the easy life they live and fight for it today. If an armed population was not holding the complete loss of freedom what are they putting so much effort into incremental disarmament.

We're exhausting peaceful means of preserving the republic. It my fall. Anyone who values freedom and makes light of our predicament is an idiot.

Sweet. Rems. rule. Got an 870 3" Mag. a few months ago, from the early '80's, and mint too. Hard to get in 3" although rifle or shotgun: nothing beats straight shootin'

Anyone with that stance has to honestly admit regardless how begrudging that by the time the colectiave decides the peaceful means have been exhausted they will be lucky to have single shots to argue their point.

When there is food in the fridge, the electric is on, money in the bank and a ball game to get to very few will risk that illusion of security. After all it was just bump stocks, mags that hold more than ten rounds, braced pistols with braces, and those children murdering semi autos. Maybe they will wake up when they go after bolt deer rifles they will call sniper rifles.

After all weapons of war have no place on out streets. I can't think of anything that dose not fit that description.muskets, bows, swords, knifes, hammers, rocks are all documented effective weapons of war. It will never end. In London you can't carry a knife.