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Posted By: Sprung & Rusty

Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 01:46 AM

If people vote based on personality vs being qualified to do the job, are those people really qualified to vote? These type of people should not step into a voting booth. Just sayin.
Posted By: headache73

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 02:30 AM

I completely agree. I could care less about personality with politicians. It ain't like I'm ever gonna be stuck in an elevator with them. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't care to be around Trump more than a few minutes, but I'd vote for him again in a heartbeat. Voting based on personality doesn't make any sense
Posted By: nightlife

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by headache73
I completely agree. I could care less about personality with politicians. It ain't like I'm ever gonna be stuck in an elevator with them. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't care to be around Trump more than a few minutes, but I'd vote for him again in a heartbeat. Voting based on personality doesn't make any sense
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Agree I personally know Trump, I worked for him for over 2 years till I just couldn’t take having to deal with him anymore, but I voted for him twice and would again
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 03:30 AM

Only land owners over the age of 21 should be allowed to vote. Our founders wrote the voting law that way for very good reasons.

Keith
Posted By: Boco

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by KeithC
Only land owners over the age of 21 should be allowed to vote. Our founders wrote the voting law that way for very good reasons.

Keith


No taxation without representation-landowners can shoulder the extra tax burden.
Posted By: mudtracker

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 10:51 AM

Boco, they already are. While the non producers keep on voting to raise our taxes.
Posted By: Jerry Jr.

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by KeithC
Only land owners over the age of 21 should be allowed to vote. Our founders wrote the voting law that way for very good reasons.

Keith


This.
Posted By: loosegoose

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by KeithC
Only land owners over the age of 21 should be allowed to vote. Our founders wrote the voting law that way for very good reasons.

Keith

Didn't we fight a war partly over being taxed without representation?

If we went to such a system, would you then agree to not tax the non voters at all? As in no sales tax, no income tax, no pitman-robertson tax, no gas tax, no gift tax, no capitol gains tax, etc etc etc....would you agree that if you're not allowed to vote, you don't have to pay any taxes of any sort? (Keep in mind there are plenty of rich people living in apartments who own no land, and plenty of poor people who do own land)

Would you also agree that the age of majority, to join the military,sign contracts, buy a gun, etc etc should be 21?
Posted By: Cedar Hacker

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 01:10 PM


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Posted By: walleye101

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by KeithC
Only land owners over the age of 21 should be allowed to vote. Our founders wrote the voting law that way for very good reasons.

Keith

Didn't we fight a war partly over being taxed without representation?

If we went to such a system, would you then agree to not tax the non voters at all? As in no sales tax, no income tax, no pitman-robertson tax, no gas tax, no gift tax, no capitol gains tax, etc etc etc....would you agree that if you're not allowed to vote, you don't have to pay any taxes of any sort? (Keep in mind there are plenty of rich people living in apartments who own no land, and plenty of poor people who do own land)

Would you also agree that the age of majority, to join the military,sign contracts, buy a gun, etc etc should be 21?


I think in an ideal republic, the peoples representatives would be elected by mature adult voters that are makeing positive contribution to the good of the country. There has always been a problem defining a line or an age limit for both.
Posted By: Posco

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Dawg Catcher
Unfortunately and to the detriment of America that's not how our system works. Anybody no matter how much they hate America "For Which It Stands" can vote to undermine our republic in any manner or fashion they chose. it's our strength and our weakness as a nation. We actually give them enough rope to hang themselves and us in this process.

That's the truth.
Posted By: walleye101

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Dawg Catcher
Unfortunately and to the detriment of America that's not how our system works. Anybody no matter how much they hate America "For Which It Stands" can vote to undermine our republic in any manner or fashion they chose. it's our strength and our weakness as a nation. We actually give them enough rope to hang themselves and us in this process.


It worked for a couple hundred years because the majority of people understood and appreciated what is was that made this country great. Apparently it was our education system that failed us.
Posted By: BigBob

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 09:40 PM

I've always thought that voters should have a MANDANTORY 3 year military service, or 6 year full time public service duty to EARN the right and PRIVALAGE of voting, and to run for public office.
Posted By: ILcooner

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
If people vote based on personality vs being qualified to do the job, are those people really qualified to vote? These type of people should not step into a voting booth. Just sayin.


I totally agree. Unqualified Reality TV Stars have no business being on the ballot.
Posted By: ILcooner

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by BigBob
I've always thought that voters should have a MANDANTORY 3 year military service, or 6 year full time public service duty to EARN the right and PRIVALAGE of voting, and to run for public office.


not a big fan of the 15th amendment eh?
Posted By: BigBob

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 10:33 PM

Not so much to vote as to EARN full citizenship, so as to understand just what our freedoms mean, and their value. Why do the politicians and the media get so thrilled when only 25% of the population can get off their back pockets to go to the polls? That means 75% can't be bothered! Very sad.
Posted By: Sprung & Rusty

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by ILcooner
Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
If people vote based on personality vs being qualified to do the job, are those people really qualified to vote? These type of people should not step into a voting booth. Just sayin.


I totally agree. Unqualified Reality TV Stars have no business being on the ballot.

You talking about Rupaul?
Posted By: Sprung & Rusty

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by BigBob
I've always thought that voters should have a MANDANTORY 3 year military service, or 6 year full time public service duty to EARN the right and PRIVALAGE of voting, and to run for public office.

Not sure if I want anyone in my family to be forced to serve and put their life on the line for these self serving crooked politicians.
Posted By: charles

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/24/21 11:55 PM

This country could use a draft. Seems like our values changed about the time the draft ended.
Posted By: Quartermastersir

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/25/21 12:06 AM

If we went to such a system, would you then agree to not tax the non voters at all? As in no sales tax, no income tax, no pitman-robertson tax, no gas tax, no gift tax, no capitol gains tax, etc etc etc....would you agree that if you're not allowed to vote, you don't have to pay any taxes of any sort? (Keep in mind there are plenty of rich people living in apartments who own no land, and plenty of poor people who do own land)
YES.
Except for the gas tax and or other "user" taxes. If you use a road you should help pay for it, regardless.
I haven't looked at the stats in a long time but last i did the top 1% pays like 30% of all income tax collected, the bottom 50% pays none or gets money back.
So if we went to such a system would the bottom half would stop getting all the free stuff they are getting by voting for these Jackolanterns?
The purpose of the original wording of the voting law was based on the founders knew if you didn't own anything you would always vote to raise the tax those who do.
Looks like they nailed it.
But the horse is outta the barn, and the barn burned down. All that's left is ranting and venting about it.
If I had MY way there would be no elections, just pick names out of a hat, just like jury duty. If you can pick people off the street to decide punitive monetary confiscation or incarceration, what's so hard about governance?
After your "term" is up we vote yes or no, maybe more apt to say go or stay, and if 50% or more want stay you stay, if more than 50% say go, we draw another name.
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/25/21 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by charles
This country could use a draft. Seems like our values changed about the time the draft ended.


Pretty sure the draft was not real good for American values.
Posted By: Blaine County

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/25/21 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by KeithC
Only land owners over the age of 21 should be allowed to vote. Our founders wrote the voting law that way for very good reasons.

Keith

Didn't we fight a war partly over being taxed without representation?

If we went to such a system, would you then agree to not tax the non voters at all? As in no sales tax, no income tax, no pitman-robertson tax, no gas tax, no gift tax, no capitol gains tax, etc etc etc....would you agree that if you're not allowed to vote, you don't have to pay any taxes of any sort? (Keep in mind there are plenty of rich people living in apartments who own no land, and plenty of poor people who do own land)

Would you also agree that the age of majority, to join the military,sign contracts, buy a gun, etc etc should be 21?


Age of majority should be 18.

There are plenty of people in this country that sap more than they pay--even if you include sales tax. The leeches aren't paying, for example, capital gains taxes.

It's a pretty simple equation. I could get behind no vote for those who don't contribute.
Posted By: warrior

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/25/21 01:34 AM

This is just one of many reasons why we have the electoral college and senators were to be select by state legislatures. The founders fully understood the common man is an idiot when it matters.
Posted By: Marty

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/25/21 05:28 AM

Does the actual vote matter anymore......????? More than 50% of the population has been disenfranchised and that's probably not gonna change anytime soon....

A couple of cities control huge areas and last election they controlled the whole USA. They used a fraudulent manner of voting....it is really a sin what happened....and no real confrontation of it.....from where I sit and watch it is pretty much done, put a fork in the USA. No miracles are gonna happen.
Posted By: James

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/25/21 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by headache73
I completely agree. I could care less about personality with politicians. It ain't like I'm ever gonna be stuck in an elevator with them. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't care to be around Trump more than a few minutes, but I'd vote for him again in a heartbeat. Voting based on personality doesn't make any sense


But voting based on character makes sense.

Jim
Posted By: Sprung & Rusty

Re: Voter qualifications - 06/25/21 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by headache73
I completely agree. I could care less about personality with politicians. It ain't like I'm ever gonna be stuck in an elevator with them. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't care to be around Trump more than a few minutes, but I'd vote for him again in a heartbeat. Voting based on personality doesn't make any sense


But voting based on character makes sense.

Jim

If a guy can't do the job, what does his character matter?
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