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Posted By: SGT. C

Employee Shortage - 07/26/21 11:39 PM

Stopped by the local Hardee's this morning. Sign said. Closed temporarily due to employee shortage. I've seen a lot of crap in my lifetime,but man,things just getting more expensive and harder to find.
And all of this covid pressure to get the shot and still.people are getting re-infected.
No wonder I'm dealing with more drug overdoses and violent people. It's driving people literally crazy. Sarge
Posted By: hippie

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 12:38 AM

It ain't near over yet, not with them shipping infected illegals all over the U.S.

More lock downs coming.
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 12:38 AM

Our local stores have shorter hours of operation now. All the places that used to be open 24 hours, such as Walmart, Kroger and all the local gas stations close between 9:00 pm and 11:00 pm now.

A whole lot of restaurants and small stores are closed on Monday or Tuesday now.

The liberals paid people to stay home and they won't go back to work, because they make less and have to work at work.

Keith
Posted By: danvee

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 01:53 AM

People tired of working for 10 bucks and hour no benefits. I know a lot of those jobs might not be skilled labor but try to make a living doing that kind of work for that kind of wage. you cant rent a place around here for less than $800 a month, throw it food, tax clothing vehicle plates. I know a lot of folks in our community, do nothing but work hard go to church and drive a beater vehicle and can barely make it. Like the middle ages the king feeds you, gives you a shack to live in an that's it. No benefits or savings I cant blame them. things went to heck when the unions got messed up, greedy and corrupt like the government. I know a lot of folks on this site will say everything is given to the poor for free and its bs, look at what they have and have not. Not all of them are drug addicts and low lives. I know hard working cowboys out here that go from job to job work their behind off some with family and have nothing, I know folks over 65 working at fast food trying to make ends meet. Its sad but I will not lump them together with drug addicts and low lives, a bunch are good hard working folks.
Posted By: AntiGov

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by danvee
People tired of working for 10 bucks and hour no benefits. I know a lot of those jobs might not be skilled labor but try to make a living doing that kind of work for that kind of wage. you cant rent a place around here for less than $800 a month, throw it food, tax clothing vehicle plates. I know a lot of folks in our community, do nothing but work hard go to church and drive a beater vehicle and can barely make it. Like the middle ages the king feeds you, gives you a shack to live in an that's it. No benefits or savings I cant blame them. things went to heck when the unions got messed up, greedy and corrupt like the government. I know a lot of folks on this site will say everything is given to the poor for free and its bs, look at what they have and have not. Not all of them are drug addicts and low lives. I know hard working cowboys out here that go from job to job work their behind off some with family and have nothing, I know folks over 65 working at fast food trying to make ends meet. Its sad but I will not lump them together with drug addicts and low lives, a bunch are good hard working folks.







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Posted By: Pawnee

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 02:19 AM

Well said Antigov. Didn’t seem to have this problem before the government started handing out even more free money.
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 02:27 AM

my son starts a job tomorrow making 16.10 an hour

a friend manages a plant , earlier this spring we were talking I said hey J you should ask D what you need to do to get a job.

D had just been telling me he was short 25 positions

be 18 , pass a physical and a drug test .

he turned 18 three weeks ago and that is how long it took to get the interview , a physical and drug test then they only start people on Tuesday.

if he was staying past the fall , when he heads off for school it would be 19 dollars an hour

if your competent and kept working through the whole pandemic you are prime to move up to these 16-20 dollar an hour jobs

my sons friend was doing the same thing so now you can't get chicken at the Gas station most nights he made chicken through he whole plandemic , when he graduated and could work full time got a job at a plant.

even Kwik trip who is paying 12.50 and 2-3 dollars an hour extra for 2nd and 3rd has had the fryer shut down several nights of the week with no one to run it.


I went to get the kids eye dr appointments a couple weeks ago and the place I normally take them is booked into September already well that won't work they will both be at college before then , so I called the clinic and they could do Aug 9th that was almost a month out.

anyone who could retire , did , people at work I thought would work into their 70s decided it was just to much work to deal with it all , any reason they had thought to keep working for was gone , go isolate yourself in your office and mask up in the halls good thing I work from home.

Posted By: KeithC

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 02:36 AM

When you just create more more money and give it out, you make everything more expensive. Resources are always limited. If you paid worthless people a million an hour, they will still be poor, because everything will just cost more. The only value in money is what it will get you.

The crap jobs around me that can't get filled pay $14.00 to $22.00 an hour and our cost of living is low.

More poor people in America die of obesity related issues than anything else. They're not starving.

"People in America who live in the most poverty-dense counties are those most prone to obesity.""

https://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/60/11/2667

Today's American poor people are mostly lazy and stupid, which is why they die of obesity.

There are decent paying jobs for anyone even barely capable of working.

Keith
Posted By: charles

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 02:50 AM

Pratt & Whitney is building a jet airplane plant in Asheville for military planes. Salaries will run about $80k with on the job training.,,I am sure some math and machine skills will required, but 100s of these openings are being sought with many left to fill.

Good jobs are out there.
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 02:57 AM

part of the reason for the obesity is the cheap food is high sugar much of the time , compounded by also not being very filling and the lack of cooking education most people have let alone the poor.

the number of people who think stew comes from a can is ridiculous so few people can cook , most just reheat a can or a box and call it cooking.

you see it working the food pantry , they just don't know what to do with half the stuff being given out

heck half of them are unlikely to have a sharp knife in the house they could cut up the big roasts and hams and such being given away frozen
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
part of the reason for the obesity is the cheap food is high sugar much of the time , compounded by also not being very filling and the lack of cooking education most people have let alone the poor.

the number of people who think stew comes from a can is ridiculous so few people can cook , most just reheat a can or a box and call it cooking.

you see it working the food pantry , they just don't know what to do with half the stuff being given out

heck half of them are unlikely to have a sharp knife in the house they could cut up the big roasts and hams and such being given away frozen


Columbus, Dayton, Cincinnati, Cleveland and other Ohio cities gave poor people free cooking lessons and even offered paying them on completion of the classes. The goal was twofold, to get the poor to eat healthier and to hopefully get some of them to get decent paying jobs in the food service industry. The program failed miserably because the poor didn't want to take the time to cook or get jobs.

It's a liberal lie that the poor just don't know how to cook. It's the same basic lie they tell, that blacks can't get ID to vote. Poor people in America today are mostly lazy, less than worthless human beings. They are a drain on everyone else in America.

Working burns calories. America's poor of today for the most part don't work.

Keith
Posted By: Dirty D

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 03:12 AM

I retired early, I figured let some young buck take over after I leave off.
Talk about bad assumptions.
There is so much opportunity out there for young people today.
Just think, people are being hired to drive truck with no CDL, the employer will train you so you can get a CDL and pay you $20/hr while you do it.
Not to mention a $10,000 signing bonus, I never even heard of a signing bonus when I was younger.
Posted By: Marty

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by danvee
People tired of working for 10 bucks and hour no benefits. I know a lot of those jobs might not be skilled labor but try to make a living doing that kind of work for that kind of wage. you cant rent a place around here for less than $800 a month, throw it food, tax clothing vehicle plates. I know a lot of folks in our community, do nothing but work hard go to church and drive a beater vehicle and can barely make it. Like the middle ages the king feeds you, gives you a shack to live in an that's it. No benefits or savings I cant blame them. things went to heck when the unions got messed up, greedy and corrupt like the government. I know a lot of folks on this site will say everything is given to the poor for free and its bs, look at what they have and have not. Not all of them are drug addicts and low lives. I know hard working cowboys out here that go from job to job work their behind off some with family and have nothing, I know folks over 65 working at fast food trying to make ends meet. Its sad but I will not lump them together with drug addicts and low lives, a bunch are good hard working folks.


^ lotsa truth there but there are also other reasons for the worker shortage.
Posted By: AntiGov

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 03:17 AM

The coddled America I see are not hungry enough to work . The fat -- drive their nice SUV's through a drive up food bank ( don't even have to get their lazy a z outta the car ) and then down the street to the pot shop
Posted By: Marty

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 03:25 AM

The country is quite fat and soft......but, not I! I am hard and lean.

I went down to the state park boat ramps the past two days to sit in the shade with my binos, eat and watch what was going on. The amount of just plain fat slobs was very disconcerting. It was the ramps nearest to the camping area and they load em into the boats and drive down to the lake....these folks walking around in bathing suits with just 100+ pounds of blubber on em.....what a sight..no pride in their appearance whatsoever....we in trouble.....
Posted By: yotetrapper30

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
part of the reason for the obesity is the cheap food is high sugar much of the time , compounded by also not being very filling and the lack of cooking education most people have let alone the poor.

the number of people who think stew comes from a can is ridiculous so few people can cook , most just reheat a can or a box and call it cooking.

you see it working the food pantry , they just don't know what to do with half the stuff being given out

heck half of them are unlikely to have a sharp knife in the house they could cut up the big roasts and hams and such being given away frozen


Ain't buying that. All these so called poor people have cell phones. Takes two seconds to ask Google "how to cook a ____ (ham, roast, rice, squash, whatever)". It's just laziness.
Posted By: mad_mike

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 04:21 AM

Call them what they are, useless.
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 05:04 AM

Originally Posted by mad_mike
Call them what they are, useless.




They're worse than useless. They are parasites, a net drain on American society.

Keith
Posted By: Redknot

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
part of the reason for the obesity is the cheap food is high sugar much of the time , compounded by also not being very filling and the lack of cooking education most people have let alone the poor.

the number of people who think stew comes from a can is ridiculous so few people can cook , most just reheat a can or a box and call it cooking.

you see it working the food pantry , they just don't know what to do with half the stuff being given out

heck half of them are unlikely to have a sharp knife in the house they could cut up the big roasts and hams and such being given away frozen


Ain't buying that. All these so called poor people have cell phones. Takes two seconds to ask Google "how to cook a ____ (ham, roast, rice, squash, whatever)". It's just laziness.


Angela, I don't have a smartphone, so I can't look that stuff up on my flip phone...However, I do have access to a computer for google and if the system goes down there is always the old cookbook on the shelf!! Like you, I do not blame the food, but the fools too lazy to take better care of themselves...
Posted By: run

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by KeithC
Our local stores have shorter hours of operation now. All the places that used to be open 24 hours, such as Walmart, Kroger and all the local gas stations close between 9:00 pm and 11:00 pm now.

A whole lot of restaurants and small stores are closed on Monday or Tuesday now.

The liberals paid people to stay home and they won't go back to work, because they make less and have to work at work.

Keith

A lot of restaurants around here have closed for good.
Posted By: Pawnee

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Marty
The country is quite fat and soft......but, not I! I am hard and lean.

I went down to the state park boat ramps the past two days to sit in the shade with my binos, eat and watch what was going on. The amount of just plain fat slobs was very disconcerting. It was the ramps nearest to the camping area and they load em into the boats and drive down to the lake....these folks walking around in bathing suits with just 100+ pounds of blubber on em.....what a sight..no pride in their appearance whatsoever....we in trouble.....


Boy that’s the truth! Family and I are taking 3 days off after a long spring and summer. We rented a cabin at one of the big lakes in Kansas. Went for a boat ride yesterday. The beaches were full of whales. Didn’t mater if they were 16 or 50 fat girls everywhere.
Posted By: Yes sir

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 12:20 PM

Their plan is working it looks like
Posted By: fishnhunts

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by SGT. C

And all of this covid pressure to get the shot and still.people are getting re-infected.


Like others have said, it has nothing to do with covid. People are just absolutely unwilling to come to work. Wages have risen by 40% for most entry level jobs in my area. I worked for years to get into a retail management position and get above the $12-13 mark, finally did it, and now am looking at all of the $20/ hour jobs with no responsibility and very easy schedule wondering if my gig is still worth it? I guarantee manager pay is not going to scale up in relation to the worker pay. The sad part is, I loved my job until it became impossible to find people willing to work and put time in to have an opportunity to advance.
Posted By: Joe1

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 01:43 PM

not sure people not working is a bad thing makes for higher wages for the ones that do but i also think a lot have found out they can produce less product they sell for a lot more if they produce less and make just about the same for a lot less money and time spent just like trappers theirs some still talking about how many they can catch but theres a lot more doing something else now for money and fun than trapping
Posted By: SGT. C

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 01:54 PM






















Sarge

What all ofthis will do is make some people more self proficient. I'm there. Been stocking up on things for years.
Just thought about getting a quick bite to eat yesterday morning. Oh.thier lose,my gain. More money in my pocket. Sarge
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 02:01 PM

if anything it may put down the 15 dollar an hour minimum wage they keep pushing for , if you are making the minimum today you either want to be or are not worth any more.

woman my wife worked with turned down raises and bonuses a few hundred more dollars would cost her many thousands in child care , she was on a program that paid her child care while she worked. she needed to stay the lowest paid employee or it would cost her several times any raise they could give her.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 03:41 PM

Last weekend my wife and I stopped at a casino for breakfast. There were only 4 breakfast items on the menu. We asked the waitress why the small menu? She said there was a shortage of cooks. The few cooks they had were working up to 70 hours a week. If they went a month without calling in sick or just didn't show up, at the end of the month they would be paid an additional $2 an hour for every hour they worked.

The restaurant was only open Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. She said if it weren't for the health insurance they provided her, she would quit and be paid $700 a week for staying home.
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 06:37 PM

There are and were millions who worked through the last 1.5 years and many got burned out working long days and weeks. There is currently, by that I mean the highest number of workers changing jobs on record. From May until now over 10 million will have quit the jobs they were doing, the bulk of those going back into the workforce for a better work life, either, salary, benefits or a more limited work week in hours and also going into careers they would prefer. The fact that so many jobs are open now makes this massive shift possible and millions are using this window to really change their work life. Transitions always cause labor shortages and coupled with fewer applicants and many openings it is a great time for those looking to change and improve. When asked, many that worked in the service sector replied they are looking for better total packages and more stability in their job for the future. It will take some time for the lower end of the workforce or entry level jobs to get filled and also many will be filled with totally raw workers with limited to no work experience, making those jobs even more likely to be high turnover. A lot of older workers, retired, semi retired etc. can afford to work part time lower paying jobs, just for extra cash where many younger workers needing to establish themselves can not.

Bryce
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 07:04 PM

Many of them haven't returned to the workforce when they can sit at home and get paid as much or more than they did working. Biden has made it very clear that he wishes to extend the unemployment benefits to possibly 2025 or even passed that. There is no incentive to work.
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 09:34 PM

Jobs are increasing at a rapid rate which one would anticipate with 20-25 million going out of work a year ago. With the offers that are being made along with benefits etc. the skilled persons are returning or never did quit or their job was essential. This is a great time to upgrade one's working career and millions and millions are doing just that and yes there is and will be some angst as that process takes place. There are not enough young, available and qualified workers to fill the jobs today. Investing in some trade education and work place education would be valuable. We have the duplicity of not wanting any illegal workers in the country yet we hope that the Swiss Cheese holes are big enough to get the labor we need. Immigration is less of a problem then talking out of both sides of our mouths at the same time.

Bryce
Posted By: stinkypete

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 11:46 PM

30.00 an hour. You can’t get anyone. At this point. We are done trying. I have worked thru this entire ordeal. Worked with Covid patients. Got Covid. That really sucked!!! But continue to go to work everyday. Then We have part of the population that refuses to work. Hand out after hand out. You don’t see it as much in the rural part of the USA. But the big urban centers it is out of control. Columbus Ohio is one. Remember they are giving away our hard earned money. We chose to work. Your lawmakers are giving your money away to those that REFUSE to work. This is when our democracy will cease to exist. Remember that. A quote from our founding fathers. I read an article this winter. Winston Churchill his fight against the German’s prior to Japan bombing Pearl Harbor. Churchill knew that if he didn’t keep the working class of England working. In the factories making tanks planes etc... they had no chance holding off the Germans. So he had all underground railways blocked off and guarded. Think about that for a minute. Churchill knew that if he allowed everyone to go underground to escape the nightly bombardment from the Germans. Churchill would never get them to come back out. Eventually as the war continued and the USA got involved Churchill opened up the underground rail system for the people to take shelter. We need leaders. To make tough decisions for the right reasons
Posted By: maintenanceguy

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/27/21 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by danvee
People tired of working for 10 bucks and hour no benefits. I know a lot of those jobs might not be skilled labor but try to make a living doing that kind of work for that kind of wage. you cant rent a place around here for less than $800 a month, throw it food, tax clothing vehicle plates. I know a lot of folks in our community, do nothing but work hard go to church and drive a beater vehicle and can barely make it. Like the middle ages the king feeds you, gives you a shack to live in an that's it. No benefits or savings I cant blame them. things went to heck when the unions got messed up, greedy and corrupt like the government. I know a lot of folks on this site will say everything is given to the poor for free and its bs, look at what they have and have not. Not all of them are drug addicts and low lives. I know hard working cowboys out here that go from job to job work their behind off some with family and have nothing, I know folks over 65 working at fast food trying to make ends meet. Its sad but I will not lump them together with drug addicts and low lives, a bunch are good hard working folks.


Nobody is supposed to spend a career making $10 per hour. Before any of us have any work experience or skills, we worked no-skill jobs at $10/hr ($3.65 in my case). But then we learned, gained skills, gained work experience, became good at something, took some classes, applied for jobs with more responsibility, and we're making a lot more than that as adults. Work is out there making $50 per hour. I pay my attorney $225 per hour and probably pay my doctor the same. You can make as much or as little as you choose to make.
Posted By: stinkypete

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/28/21 12:04 PM

Exactly
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Employee Shortage - 07/28/21 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by KeithC
Our local stores have shorter hours of operation now. All the places that used to be open 24 hours, such as Walmart, Kroger and all the local gas stations close between 9:00 pm and 11:00 pm now.

A whole lot of restaurants and small stores are closed on Monday or Tuesday now.

The liberals paid people to stay home and they won't go back to work, because they make less and have to work at work.

Keith

You are absolutely correct. There are Help Wanted signs on so many stores in my area, it's crazy. One restaurant I usually eat at has had signs up looking for cooks and waitresses for about 3 months now. The reason in almost every case is the same: They can earn just as much or in some cases, even more by staying at home. Oops! I shouldn't say EARN, but rather GET paid for staying home and sitting on their butts!
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