It's been almost sixty-one years since Russia’s Khrushchev delivered this message on September 29, 1959..
This was his quote:
"Your children's children will live under communism, you Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept communism outright but we will keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you will finally wake up and find you already have communism. We will not have to fight you, we will so weaken your economy until you fall like overripe fruit into our hands. Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not.
Remember, socialism leads to communism so how do you create a socialistic state?
Through 8 levels of control:
Healthcare Control healthcare and you control the people.
Poverty Increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them.
Debt Increase the debt to an unsustainable level that way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
Gun Control Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government that way you are able to create a police state.
Welfare Take control of every aspect (food, housing, income) of their lives because that will make them fully dependent on the government.
Education Take control of what people read and listen to and take control of what children learn in school.
Religion Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools because the people need to believe in ONLY the government knowing what is best for the people.
Class Warfare Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. Eliminate the middle class which will cause more discontent and it will be easier to tax the wealthy with the support of the poor
This is fake news. The contents might be accurate but this was not said by Khrushchev and Khrushchev was not in the US any longer on the 29th. Below is his statement from a few days prior to the UN.
“It should be clear to everyone that there is no means and no force which can halt this struggle of the peoples for their liberation, for it’s a great historic process, one of ever-growing and invincible power. It may be possible to prolong the dominion of one state over another for a year or two, but just as in the past the bourgeois order of things came to replace feudalism and as, now, socialism is replacing capitalism, so colonial slavery is giving place to freedom. Such are the rules of human development, and only adventurers can believe that mountains of corpses and millions of victims will delay the advent of a radiant future.”
Sorry I didn’t research enough. Who ever said it is spot on. Just like the frog in the pot of water, just keep turning up the heat til it’s cooked.
Egh.... Again.... Something that doesnt happen especially with cold blooded critters. Once the temperature reaches a certain point, no matter how gradual, the frog leaps out. Which.... Is a good lesson for us. Be sensitive to our surroundings and be prepared to make a move.
I do remember Khrushchev making the comment during the Kennedy administration that America will fall from within without a shot fired. This isn't his exact quote, but it's what he meant by what he said. He and Kennedy had a great respect for each other. We were involved in a cold war with Russia at the time. Khrushchev was saying Russia wouldn't have to ever attack the US, they would destroy themselves. Kind of like the Roman Empire did.
What 50 something years ago and we are still the strongest county with the best economy and standard of living in the world I think he was wrong. Yeah we have are problems always had them and always will but wouldn't trade it for anywhere else.
What 50 something years ago and we are still the strongest county with the best economy and standard of living in the world I think he was wrong. Yeah we have are problems always had them and always will but wouldn't trade it for anywhere else.
I agree this is the best place on earth to live. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. The Roman Empire was considered the greatest, most feared country on earth at the time. But, inner corruption was their downfall. Reminds me of the city of Detroit. Look at how that city imploded. America is headed down the same path. If things continue, we will have two classes of people, the very rich and the very poor. No middle class.
History has shown that societies, nations, empires, cultures have cycles and why would we feel that would change in our modern era? I do believe that a republic form of democracy with a strong influential private sector and slow the process or in other words we can exist for more generations. That is providing there is not another aspect, empire, culture etc. that rises up and works to subvert us or major portions of the world. As we are learning here in the USA today after only months of limitations that wealth and money can't even buy the labor or people needed to do the work. Those nations with growing and youthful populations may not have wealth but energy and youth along with literacy can make a real difference. Most of what we call the wealthy Western World is an aging slow or negative population growth region. There is a need to bring in millions of younger immigrants to do the work and work their way into the cultures. The nations that learn the best method of getting that done and finding the more qualified immigrants will have more success than those that do not. Immigration has been an economic and political issue worldwide for centuries and we still are unwilling to take steps to move forward with the best solutions. Russia is a good example of a country that is aging, losing population and using capitalism to make a few wealthy and most not even lower middle class. If this continues for them it is not the price of oil that will bring the coons back it will be a major change in their economic trend so people can even afford to buy utilitarian fur. Bryce
"What exactly constitutes the Russian middle class has been a subject of a two-decade-long debate, with estimates ranging from 2 percent to 80 percent based on criteria used.
It is definitely not the same people as in the West: A Russian's average monthly wage was 29,900 rubles ($860) in 2013, compared to $4,300 in the U.S.
Still, the World Bank said last March that 60 percent of the Russian population belonged to middle class in 2010, up from 27 percent in 2001. This year, the bank classified Russia for the first time as a high-income economy."
"Russia’s middle class has fallen by nearly one-fifth since the start of the country’s economic crisis in 2014, an analysis by the Moscow-based Alfa Bank has said.
Low oil prices and Western sanctions have reduced Russians’ real incomes for five years in a row. Economists forecast that the population’s purchasing power will keep falling in 2019 despite the government’s projection for modest growth."
:This winter will mark three years since Russia abruptly embarked on a course of political and economic isolation. Lower oil prices and the devaluation of the ruble dealt a serious blow to the population’s economic well-being"
"What exactly constitutes the Russian middle class has been a subject of a two-decade-long debate, with estimates ranging from 2 percent to 80 percent based on criteria used.
It is definitely not the same people as in the West: A Russian's average monthly wage was 29,900 rubles ($860) in 2013, compared to $4,300 in the U.S.
Still, the World Bank said last March that 60 percent of the Russian population belonged to middle class in 2010, up from 27 percent in 2001. This year, the bank classified Russia for the first time as a high-income economy."
"Russia’s middle class has fallen by nearly one-fifth since the start of the country’s economic crisis in 2014, an analysis by the Moscow-based Alfa Bank has said.
Low oil prices and Western sanctions have reduced Russians’ real incomes for five years in a row. Economists forecast that the population’s purchasing power will keep falling in 2019 despite the government’s projection for modest growth."
:This winter will mark three years since Russia abruptly embarked on a course of political and economic isolation. Lower oil prices and the devaluation of the ruble dealt a serious blow to the population’s economic well-being"
The quality of life is what I would determine middle class. 30k rubli monthly you can live pretty well. Most russians own their home. Most own cars. The ones that dont are usually in large cities where its not practical. Even those without cars still have dachas that they escape to on the weekends via train.
The interesting thing is that the Russian debt to GDP has been going down since the sanctions. It would appear Putin does not need to buy votes with government money. Or boost the economy with government debt. The economy is anemic, but he is not trying to improve it with QE or selling bonds. Maybe he remembers what collapsed the USSR?
Even if He didn't say that quote its still true makes sense to eliminate a public police force by underfunding and then step in with a federal force to save us from escalating crime
