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Posted By: larrywaugh

Propane availability - 10/03/21 07:15 PM

I heard from 2 different people that propane may be hard to come by this winter. Even for people who have contracted it as I have. What's everybody else hearing?
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 07:40 PM

Propane is supposed to be tripling in price and may be unavailable in many areas this Winter.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/heating-costs-may-triple-as-propane-shortage-looms

We are pumping less and exporting more. The amount of propane available is down 21% from the normal level over the last 5 years, mostly due to biden's poor decisions. People in America are seeing shortages of many commonly available products. It's getting rapidly worse. People will likely be dying soon.

Keith
Posted By: yotetrapper30

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 07:56 PM

Well that's wonderful. We heat with propane.
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 08:07 PM

I best fill up the 8 empties I have here then. I only use it for the cooking stove. Heating with wood
Posted By: Providence Farm

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Scuba1
I best fill up the 8 empties I have here then. I only use it for the cooking stove. Heating with wood


2x + the 500gal tank. Dad just bought a 1000 gallon tank that won't be delivered for a while yet.
Posted By: adam m

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 08:56 PM

Filled 2 20lb tanks (8 gallons) for $22 Friday. Told me winter prices are higher and over the decades noticed it's always crazy during the 1st year of a new potus, but didn't expect to see it this high. Before talking to him I figured since it was hot air balloon season here prices would be higher. I didn't expect a $0.50 increase from late August.

This supplier is the cheapest and one of the biggest suppliers around here.
Posted By: hippie

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 08:56 PM

I heard the same
Posted By: Pike River

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by KeithC
Propane is supposed to be tripling in price and may be unavailable in many areas this Winter.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/heating-costs-may-triple-as-propane-shortage-looms

We are pumping less and exporting more. The amount of propane available is down 21% from the normal level over the last 5 years, mostly due to biden's poor decisions. People in America are seeing shortages of many commonly available products. It's getting rapidly worse. People will likely be dying soon.

Keith

Biden sucks.

Ok.... Now that we got that out of the way, what decision did Biden make in the last 9 months that would effect prices so rapidly?
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 10:51 PM

Looking to get 2 more 100 LB tanks. OUTRAGEOUS prices on tanks through outlets here. Found some for about 1/3 the price same brand online. Has me wondering where all the difference is.Tank # 1

Tank # 2
Posted By: Feedinggrounds

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Drifter
Looking to get 2 more 100 LB tanks. OUTRAGEOUS prices on tanks through outlets here. Found some for about 1/3 the price same brand online. Has me wondering where all the difference is.Tank # 1

Tank # 2

Clicked back and fourth between tanks, I se no difference at all. I like the tanks with the safety shroud around the valve v/s a thread on cap, much easier to handle. I better get all my empties filled for my cabin. I keep two hooked up and two on standby. Cooking, lights and heating water is done with propane.
Posted By: Marty

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 11:07 PM

i think lots of stuff we use daily will be seeing price hikes and shortages....
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 11:08 PM

I have at least 6 they won't fill now as too old. Quite a hassle to get them retested and then only good for a couple years.
Posted By: ebsurveyor

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Drifter
Looking to get 2 more 100 LB tanks. OUTRAGEOUS prices on tanks through outlets here. Found some for about 1/3 the price same brand online. Has me wondering where all the difference is.Tank # 1

Tank # 2


#1 = Weight 80lbs.
#2 = Item Weight: 100 lb
Posted By: Feedinggrounds

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by ebsurveyor
Originally Posted by Drifter
Looking to get 2 more 100 LB tanks. OUTRAGEOUS prices on tanks through outlets here. Found some for about 1/3 the price same brand online. Has me wondering where all the difference is.Tank # 1

Tank # 2


#1 = Weight 80lbs.
#2 = Item Weight: 100 lb

Missed that....I would want the cheaper tank for sure. Strange they look identical.
Posted By: yotetrapper30

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 11:20 PM

It's a scam, y'all. I googled the company selling them for so cheap, and google says it's a scam website. So don't order any!
Posted By: grumley701

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Well that's wonderful. We heat with propane.


Couple candles lit in a room I think would suffice in Mississippi.....
laugh
Posted By: yotetrapper30

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by grumley701
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Well that's wonderful. We heat with propane.


Couple candles lit in a room I would think would suffice in Mississippi.....
laugh


We usually get down in the single digits for a few days at least. Mostly though it's just a damp cold. You know like when it's 40 degrees and raining all day and you're sitting in a treestand? Yuck. I'd rather be sitting in a treestand at 10 degrees than in 40 degree rain.
Posted By: Cragar

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Drifter
I have at least 6 they won't fill now as too old. Quite a hassle to get them retested and then only good for a couple years.

Take your old dated tanks to a place that does tank exchange instead of refilling them. I've done it at Wal-Mart , best price for an exchange around here. Downside to that is you only get a tank that is about 3/4 full but you get a newer tank.
Posted By: Sprung & Rusty

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Pike River
Originally Posted by KeithC
Propane is supposed to be tripling in price and may be unavailable in many areas this Winter.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/heating-costs-may-triple-as-propane-shortage-looms

We are pumping less and exporting more. The amount of propane available is down 21% from the normal level over the last 5 years, mostly due to biden's poor decisions. People in America are seeing shortages of many commonly available products. It's getting rapidly worse. People will likely be dying soon.

Keith

Biden sucks.

Ok.... Now that we got that out of the way, what decision did Biden make in the last 9 months that would effect prices so rapidly?

"You cannot be serious".
Posted By: grumley701

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 11:31 PM

Just messing with you... laugh Cold is relative, here we have a dry cold..lol
Posted By: dsmc

Re: Propane availability - 10/03/21 11:42 PM

This year I had my 500 gallon tank topped off at $2.19 a gallon here in NE Alabama.
Last year it was $1.89.
BTW it just held 106 gallons. I heat with wood and just use gas for cooking and hot water.
What are the prices you guys are being quoted?
Posted By: Bob_Iowa

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 12:18 AM

I haven’t asked the lp guy about availability since all the dryer gas is booked and we’re ahead of the curve, but I have seen farmers oil bringing it up from down south on the interstate, also we have enough storage to just about get through winter.
Posted By: Pirogue

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Drifter
I have at least 6 they won't fill now as too old. Quite a hassle to get them retested and then only good for a couple years.


Trade them for full ones somewhere that does to Blue Rino swap. Around here most gas stations and grocery stores have them.
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 12:33 AM

You can also buy a converter from old to new but yes...if you can trade it in why not. It's only $20 for a 20# tank. I fill my own from a wet valve in a 500 gallon tank. Get ready folks! It's gonna be a long haul!
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 12:34 AM

Oh yes...there are Biden lovers on here...
Posted By: yotetrapper30

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 12:36 AM

The tanks drifter has that they won't fill are 100 pounders. Not sure if anywhere swaps them in like that?
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 12:37 AM

Ah...missed that part!
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 12:39 AM

Haven't seen a place does the 100 LB exchange here only the 20 LB.
Posted By: Providence Farm

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Drifter
I have at least 6 they won't fill now as too old. Quite a hassle to get them retested and then only good for a couple years.




Never mind saw they were not 20lb tanks
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Oh yes...there are Biden lovers on here...

Unreal
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 02:08 AM

Before biden was elected the propane industry warned us what would likely happen, due to biden's policies and decisions and it has.

https://www.lpgasmagazine.com/potential-impacts-of-biden-presidency-on-propane/

https://propane.com/environment/pod...-changes-to-expect-in-bidens-presidency/

Keith
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 02:15 AM

Where does propane come from by the way? Natural gas?
Posted By: Pelts

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 02:17 AM

Back in July, my Propane pre pay bill showed up in the mail. I just about went through the roof. An $841.00 dollar increase for this coming season. I have a bunch of storm damaged and downed trees here. Time to fire up the woodstove.
Posted By: Pelts

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 02:32 AM

Today, propane primarily comes from
domestic natural gas processing,
especially since shale gas extraction
has increased in recent decades.
Today, close to 70 percent of the U.S.
propane supply comes from natural
gas processing here and in Canada.

Liquid components are recovered as
natural gas is processed. In addition to
propane, methane, butane and
ethane are also produced.

Once propane is produced, it is
shipped to bulk propane distribution
centers by pipeline, tanker ship,
railroad, truck or barge. From there,
propane distributors bring it to local
propane providers like LG Jordan.
Posted By: old243

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 02:43 AM

I had 100 pound tanks , recertified a couple of years ago. Cost 30.00 each. They put a new valve, purged the tank restamped the date. They ware then good for 10 years. I bought a couple of exchange 100 pounders last year, as long as your exchange tank , was still valid dated, for about 100.00. Haven't seen this years price..

Bu
y
some canadian oil and gas stocks , this will offset your fuel bills. FRU, CVE, WCP.old243
Posted By: Okie Farmer

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 02:43 PM

LP was $2.28 a gallon here in NW OK last week. It doesn't sound good for this winter. Supplier said prices going up everyday.
Posted By: dinorocks

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Pelts
Today, propane primarily comes from
domestic natural gas processing,
especially since shale gas extraction
has increased in recent decades.
Today, close to 70 percent of the U.S.
propane supply comes from natural
gas processing here and in Canada.

Liquid components are recovered as
natural gas is processed. In addition to
propane, methane, butane and
ethane are also produced.

Once propane is produced, it is
shipped to bulk propane distribution
centers by pipeline, tanker ship,
railroad, truck or barge. From there,
propane distributors bring it to local
propane providers like LG Jordan.


As a student working on my Masters Degree in geology, I was contacted to work at a propane storage facility. The propane was stored under ground in large salt cavities near Bath, NY until prices went up, when it was sold. My job was to extract soil gas from the area (in a large grid), to determine which storage cavities were leaking (due to faults) and should not be used. Interesting work!
Posted By: white17

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 05:33 PM

That would be an interesting project. It would also prove that the leaks were no fault of your own. wink
Posted By: Redknot

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by white17
That would be an interesting project. It would also prove that the leaks were no fault of your own. wink


OMG, will you be here all week??
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 06:09 PM

Someone call White a taxi
Posted By: white17

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 06:13 PM

laugh
Posted By: Chancey

Re: Propane availability - 10/04/21 07:25 PM

Filled all the tanks here on 9/23. $2.79/gallon.

Propane company said prices will likely keep increasing.
Posted By: PAlltheway

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 10:58 AM

Interesting post about propane
propane
Posted By: BernieB.

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 12:46 PM

Filled in September for $1.89. Could I have actually done it at the right time for a change?
Posted By: Alex the dog

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 12:56 PM

Local coop had a 100% pre-pay program at $1.69 so paid for 600 gallons for our house & shop and 1,000 gallons at my mother's home. Mom's tank was filled last Friday and truck price is $2.12 for now, driver said he wouldn't be surprised if it went >$3 this heating season. Glad to have fire-wood as primary house heat!

Dave
Posted By: drasselt

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Pike River


what decision did Biden make in the last 9 months that would effect prices so rapidly?


This is way too easy Piker:

"Biden’s drilling moratoriums, discouragement of investment in the U.S. oil and gas sector, as well as the demonization of the oil and gas industry, are putting the U.S. on the verge of an energy crisis"
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 02:48 PM

You can take that " on the verge " out of your sentence. It is an energy crisis in the making and there is no stopping it with the idiots that are currently at the helm.
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 02:55 PM

Idiots may be too kind but don't know if there's a word to properly describe them.
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 02:57 PM

Well Gary it's i kid friendly site, so I can't type what I really think
Posted By: drasselt

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Scuba1
You can take that " on the verge " out of your sentence. It is an energy crisis in the making and there is no stopping it with the idiots that are currently at the helm.


It's not "my" sentence it is a "quote" from the Fox Business News link posted by the OP.
That said, "on the verge" and "in the making" seem very similar, no?
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 03:32 PM

On the verge is standing at the edge of the cliff. In the making is taking that last step.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by PAlltheway
Interesting post about propane
propane

That is an interesting post and realistic when they say, "green plans and goals are simply unachievable". Common sense should indicate that.
Propane has been proven to be safe for the environment, more cost efficient, and more practical than all the green nonsense.
Posted By: PAlltheway

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 04:28 PM

Trapper7, reason, logic, fair play, the rule of law all left the conversation being led and implemented by the Biden* administration. Their goal is open now: to destroy America so they can remake us into their socialist utopia. They and their foreign allies are attacking American culture, law, identity, economy etc from every angle. They know they have a short window of opportunity to achieve their most important milestones, so they have pulled out the stops on everything. Anything associated with domestic energy production is a form and symbol of American independence, and so the lawless illegal Biden* administration is attacking our energy supplies and production. People keep saying the administration is full of idiots. No, they are not idiots. They are doing things completely the opposite of how WE would do things because they feel the OPPOSITE about America than we do. They are raising prices and creating economic chaos because it creates a crisis they can exploit for political gain.
America is in huge trouble. Our nation is being deliberately failed by domestic enemies working with foreign enemies against We, The People.
Propane price dynamics are just one good example.
Posted By: BernieB.

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Scuba1
On the verge is standing at the edge of the cliff. In the making is taking that last step.


In the making would be walking up to the cliff.
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 04:56 PM

The propane shortage ( if it exists ) is probably related to all the other shortages created by the rona nonsense last year. Printing money last year and handing it out means people have money to spend, but a shortage of products to buy. This causes prices to increase. Enjoy!
Posted By: white17

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 05:13 PM

It isn't just a US problem. There is an energy shortage world wide. China has instructed it's agencies to "secure" all the energy they will need for the coming winter. Germany has shut down their nukes and is buying power from France. The EU has restricted fracking and is buying natural gas from Russia who.......just cut back the shipments to Europe by 57% ( who saw that coming ? )

And of course, the brainiacs in the New England states have prohibited fracking and are IMPORTING natural gas from Russia into Boston. And WE have more natural gas than any other country.

Lets not forget the pipelines that can't be built or the leases that can't be drilled, or the shut in production due to the hurricane.

But by all means let's raise taxes on those evil energy companies
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 05:39 PM

"Russian Output
Europe is facing gas shortages, but Russia has a crunch of its own. Gazprom has boosted production this year, but it’s directing the additional output to refill depleted storage sites at home. Russia has been producing close to its maximum capacity, but its domestic needs have curbed availability to Europe, according to the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies.

“Russia is not running out of gas and its prolific gas reserves allow Russia to meet much higher overall demand, but this requires time, money, and contractual assurances of offtake,” said OIES Senior Research Fellow Vitaly Yermakov.

Some analysts have argued that Russia has capped flows to Europe as a way to get its controversial Nord Stream 2 pipeline to Germany online. Flows through the link could improve supplies, but the start of commercial operations will depend on regulatory certification — first in Germany, then at the European Commission. That could run well into next year. US sanctions have also created challenges for the project.

The IEA stressed that it’s wrong to blame the shift away from fossil fuels for the surge in gas prices. The comments came a week after Frans Timmermans, the EU’s climate chief, warned that the record spike in energy prices must not undermine the European Union’s resolve to cut emissions.

“Recent increases in global natural gas prices are the result of multiple factors, and it is inaccurate and misleading to lay the responsibility at the door of the clean energy transition,” said IEA Executive Director Fatih Birol."
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by PAlltheway
Trapper7, reason, logic, fair play, the rule of law all left the conversation being led and implemented by the Biden* administration. Their goal is open now: to destroy America so they can remake us into their socialist utopia. They and their foreign allies are attacking American culture, law, identity, economy etc from every angle. They know they have a short window of opportunity to achieve their most important milestones, so they have pulled out the stops on everything. Anything associated with domestic energy production is a form and symbol of American independence, and so the lawless illegal Biden* administration is attacking our energy supplies and production. People keep saying the administration is full of idiots. No, they are not idiots. They are doing things completely the opposite of how WE would do things because they feel the OPPOSITE about America than we do. They are raising prices and creating economic chaos because it creates a crisis they can exploit for political gain.
America is in huge trouble. Our nation is being deliberately failed by domestic enemies working with foreign enemies against We, The People.
Propane price dynamics are just one good example.

I couldn't have said it better.
Posted By: drasselt

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Dirt
"Russian Output

The IEA stressed that it’s wrong to blame the shift away from fossil fuels for the surge in gas prices. The comments came a week after Frans Timmermans, the EU’s climate chief, warned that the record spike in energy prices must not undermine the European Union’s resolve to cut emissions.

“Recent increases in global natural gas prices are the result of multiple factors, and it is inaccurate and misleading to lay the responsibility at the door of the clean energy transition,” said IEA Executive Director Fatih Birol."


Propaganda anyone?

The "...shift away from fossil fuels..." and "...the clean energy transition,...", sounds like the perfect way to destabilize fossil energy.

Posted By: Dirt

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 07:04 PM

"President Biden is treating a European pipeline, the Nord Stream 2, very differently than the Keystone XL. Nord Stream 2 is a natural gas pipeline from Russia to Germany, on whose construction the United States had placed sanctions. Despite bipartisan support for the sanctions on Russia against Nord Stream 2, President Biden weakened those sanctions, which will secure the pipeline’s completion. The Biden administration waived sanctions on the corporate entity (Nord Stream 2 AG) and its CEO (Putin friend and former East German intelligence officer Matthias Warnig) overseeing the construction of Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline into Germany."
Posted By: white17

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 07:26 PM

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Coal/Coal-Makes-Comeback-In-Europe-As-Gas-Prices-Explode.html
Posted By: drasselt

Re: Propane availability - 10/05/21 07:28 PM

lunch box Joe scratching the backs of his fellow travellers

On the other hand, with more Russian natural gas money, maybe coon averages will rise to $3 or something....
Posted By: PAlltheway

Re: Propane availability - 10/06/21 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Dirt
"Russian Output
Europe is facing gas shortages, but Russia has a crunch of its own. Gazprom has boosted production this year, but it’s directing the additional output to refill depleted storage sites at home. Russia has been producing close to its maximum capacity, but its domestic needs have curbed availability to Europe, according to the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies.

“Russia is not running out of gas and its prolific gas reserves allow Russia to meet much higher overall demand, but this requires time, money, and contractual assurances of offtake,” said OIES Senior Research Fellow Vitaly Yermakov.

Some analysts have argued that Russia has capped flows to Europe as a way to get its controversial Nord Stream 2 pipeline to Germany online. Flows through the link could improve supplies, but the start of commercial operations will depend on regulatory certification — first in Germany, then at the European Commission. That could run well into next year. US sanctions have also created challenges for the project.

The IEA stressed that it’s wrong to blame the shift away from fossil fuels for the surge in gas prices. The comments came a week after Frans Timmermans, the EU’s climate chief, warned that the record spike in energy prices must not undermine the European Union’s resolve to cut emissions.

“Recent increases in global natural gas prices are the result of multiple factors, and it is inaccurate and misleading to lay the responsibility at the door of the clean energy transition,” said IEA Executive Director Fatih Birol."

Dirt, c’mon man, surely you recognize political propaganda when you post it. Right? Anyone who is any kind of “climate” czar/king/executive director/spokesman etc is already loaded to the gills with BS narrative meant to shift the blame for their misdeeds onto others. All of these people are political animals, and every single thing they do and say is meant to move the socialism ball further down the field. I have to give them credit, they never miss a beat or an opportunity to lie big and promote their agenda. Which just happens to be against everything you live, breathe, eat, drive, trap and read.
Posted By: Dirt

Re: Propane availability - 10/06/21 01:39 AM

Are the renewable energy people nuts? Oh Yeah! However Russia supplies the gas not the wind farms or the solar panels. Heck if green energy was lowering demand for gas then prices would be getting lower. I don't believe Russia is pushing green energy. Europe may be dependant on Russia because they don't develope their own gas reserves, but they still may not be competitive with a Russian supply?

IEA

"Created in 1974 to ensure the security of oil supplies, the International Energy Agency has evolved over the years. While energy security remains a core mission, the IEA today is at the center of the global energy debate, focusing on a wide variety of issues, ranging from electricity security to investments, climate change and air pollution, energy access and efficiency, and much more."

"While energy security remains a core mission, the IEA has evolved over the years, adapting to the transformation of the global energy system. Today, the IEA is at the heart of global dialogue on energy, providing authoritative statistics and analysis and examining the full spectrum of energy issues, advocating policies that will enhance the reliability, affordability and sustainability of energy in its 30 members countries and beyond."
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Propane availability - 10/06/21 03:41 AM

There are some issues with some of the major African nations production so that is an impactor as well. Russia and the Soviets (OPEC included) have the US fracking oil at bay, but with prices climbing if they turn the knobs they can increase production and keep the fracked oil out of the equation. Sure we are a major producer but we can't produce enough at lower costs to stop others from really having a lot of control over price and that slows production here and thus our economy etc.
Oil reserves don't mean a lot if you can't afford to take it. We also have had extremely limited refinery expansion and modernizing. Probably won't be a big commitment there either if there are big pushes for other energy sources.
Bryce
Posted By: PAlltheway

Re: Propane availability - 10/06/21 03:30 PM

As the IEA kind of admits, they are yet one more institution captured by the Left and bent to promoting the left's anti-capitalism, anti-Western agenda. So whatever the IEA now says, I would be skeptical.
Posted By: grapestomper

Re: Propane availability - 10/06/21 04:13 PM

At 2.23 here now.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Propane availability - 10/06/21 04:35 PM

Our propane company a few months ago, offered its customers to be able to lock in their per gallon price with a pre-payment. My wife prepaid $2,000 locking in the price at $1.79 a gallon. It's already gone up nearly $1.00 a gallon.
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