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Mn DNR at its finest

Posted By: dustytinner

Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 02:48 AM

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Now we're just letting people throw away deer in a CWD zone without results of the test!! What a bunch of
Posted By: warrior

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 04:44 AM

Bet that smells wonderful.

Frankly I ain't got a problem with it other than I would think you might need to consider incineration for something like CWD.
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 05:06 AM

You guys must have some really poor township ordinances or they are just looking the other way. Sure the DNR has some responsibility here but hunters, shooting deer just to stack them up in a dumpster does not put us in a good light either.

Bryce
Posted By: sneaky

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by dustytinner
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Now we're just letting people throw away deer in a CWD zone without results of the test!! What a bunch of

How many guys have the cooler or freezer space to hold them for the 3-4 weeks for test results to come back? You offered a[align:center][/align]n opinion, but not an alternative. Wolves are going to eat well around those dumpsters.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 08:45 AM

The test results Takes 10 days not 3 to 4 weeks.

Regardless, it's ecological biohazard and should be Burned.
Posted By: Trap Setter

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 10:44 AM

I don't think burning kills the prions but yeah it may stop some animals from eating the carcasses.
Posted By: Calvin

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 11:40 AM

Apparently the "Wanton Waste" law just got repealed.
Posted By: Mad Scientist

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 12:02 PM

You would think if the mn DNR could afford to spend $100,000.00 on removing 14 carp from the river they could do something with these deer.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mad Scientist
You would think if the mn DNR could afford to spend $100,000.00 on removing 14 carp from the river they could do something with these deer.

You would think
Posted By: coondagger2

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 01:02 PM

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Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by coondagger2
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I want one
Posted By: ScottW

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 01:21 PM

I don’t actually get the shirt? Happy trapping! ScottW
Posted By: coondagger2

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 01:24 PM

The shirt was based on a video that went viral of guys drifting their cars on the ice in the middle of a huge frozen over lake. These guys are professional drivers from what I remember.

DNR officer comes up and says he's going to have to write them a ticket for reckless driving on a road even though they weren't technically on a road. The guy had a power trip for sure. That's what the shirt is based on
Posted By: Badger23

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 01:41 PM

Where was that picture taken at? we've got dumpsters set up in my counties in WI as well but I've never seen anything like that. I have to say if you're just going hunting for the sake of killing or the horns don't go.
Obviously if you shoot a deer that looks sick don't eat it, that's common sense.
in WI we have the program where you can take deer to lockers that will then process them and donate them to food shelf. And yes some are in counties that have CWD. What a waste and a shame.

Isn't CWD in the soil anyway so it's not going away. I'm pretty sure I read that sometime back.
Posted By: mudtracker

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 02:09 PM

A quartered deer doesnt take up that much freezer space. Fcol this is unacceptable.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 02:14 PM

Not in soil, nope
Posted By: yotetrapper30

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 02:20 PM

CWD isn't widespread here, but we do have a hot zone along the TN border. They increased the deer limit to 14 deer (from 8) in that zone. They just want the deer dead. Don't care what you do with them. Seems our DNR thinks reducing population is a key to fighting CWD?
Posted By: Badger23

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 02:27 PM

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/04/060414013751.htm

Soil-bound Prions That Cause CWD Remain Infectious
Date:
April 14, 2006
Source:
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Summary:
Scientists have confirmed that prions, the mysterious proteins thought to cause chronic wasting disease (CWD) in deer, latch on tightly to certain minerals in soil and remain infectious.

I think this is what I read and there are other links I read when I just looked for it.
I don't know the technical crap but just so you guys in MN realize it isn't going anywhere. You can try and kill all the deer off in that area like the idiots in the DNR tried in WI and it's still here.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by bblwi
You guys must have some really poor township ordinances or they are just looking the other way. Sure the DNR has some responsibility here but hunters, shooting deer just to stack them up in a dumpster does not put us in a good light either.

Bryce

Exactly. Gives the antis a good argument when it comes to hunting.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by bblwi
You guys must have some really poor township ordinances or they are just looking the other way. Sure the DNR has some responsibility here but hunters, shooting deer just to stack them up in a dumpster does not put us in a good light either.

Bryce

Exactly. Gives the antis a good argument when it comes to hunting.



Is the DNR not doing the exact same thing reducing deer numbers in many CWD areas will this not benefit the deer herds in the end? Top that with EHD issues and a dead deer is a dead deer should help both issues.

Maybe a few letters to the editor might help explain this to the none hunters because the judgements will do nothing to fix anything.
Posted By: Coulee Coyote

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 04:00 PM

Looks like the gas station in Houston, MN. I was pretty disappointed when I went to get my buck tested (mandatory here in SE MN) to see a couple guys show up and just pull a couple of capes out of the back of the truck. I realize the carcass isn't suppose to leave the area but as far as I'm concerned you should either be prepared to butcher on the spot or have prior arrangements for a storage if your going to come down here and hunt. I know for the last few years the DNR would allow you to store your deer in their cooler or at least donate your venison. This is just wanton waste in my opinion.
Posted By: Snowpa

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 04:29 PM

If they test positive I dont want them either . No Brainer
Posted By: sneaky

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
The test results Takes 10 days not 3 to 4 weeks.

Regardless, it's ecological biohazard and should be Burned.

If you pay the expedited fee, sure, you can get results in 10 days. My deer I killed in Wyoming this year they told ne to freeze for 3 weeks til results are back, or I could pay to have results in 10-14 days. Straight from their mouths. Still doesn't answer the question of how many people have the room to store deer for anywhere between 10 days and 3 weeks just to be told to dispose of it if it tests positive.
Posted By: Badger23

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 09:43 PM

There's a lot of good meat going to waste right there. It paints hunting in a horrible picture. I thought that was going to be in SE MN. I heard CWD is in that area. I'd quit hunting if I was going to just shoot them and leave them rot.

So this is going to bring up a touchy subject and that's when someone wounds a deer and spends hours and hours trying to find it a lot of folks on here jump on them for it. Nobody sets out for that to happen but it does, let's be realistic. I'd take that guy making an effort to recover his deer over any of those guys who are out thrill killing and putting them in a dumpster.
Posted By: danvee

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 10:34 PM

I have never read where there has been a case transmitted to humans anyone heard anything different.
Posted By: MJM

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 11:17 PM

Is killing deer to throw them away, any different then trapping worthless fur that brings a couple dollars?
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 11:22 PM

I don't feel herd reduction or management is the issue in what we see. How to go about properly disposal to me is the issue. Removing positive animals and reducing the herd are probably the best options available at this time, but as stated above the vast majority of non hunters don't look at managing a deer herd they see a pile of carcasses and that picture sticks in their minds for a long, long time. Evidently harvesters are doing as they are supposed to be doing.

Bryce
Posted By: Clark

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/09/21 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Badger23
There's a lot of good meat going to waste right there.


As compared to the WI solution which was to…let CWD run rampant? No wasted animals in that scenario.

bblwi is completely right, this is a disposal issue and not a management issue.
Posted By: walleye101

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/10/21 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by sneaky
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
The test results Takes 10 days not 3 to 4 weeks.

Regardless, it's ecological biohazard and should be Burned.

If you pay the expedited fee, sure, you can get results in 10 days. My deer I killed in Wyoming this year they told ne to freeze for 3 weeks til results are back, or I could pay to have results in 10-14 days. Straight from their mouths. Still doesn't answer the question of how many people have the room to store deer for anywhere between 10 days and 3 weeks just to be told to dispose of it if it tests positive.


I would hope that most people making the effort to hunt deer would have the room to store the processed venison once they get one. Sure it would suck to have to dispose of it in the unlikely case it tests positive, but you need somewhere to store it anyway if it tests negative.
Posted By: Badger23

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/10/21 12:37 AM

As I remember quite vividly when it first came about here the DNR gave out 4 tags a day and the season ran for a long time in those units which were right above where I live. I also used to hunt in Richland county and in the Muscoda area on public ground. You couldn't find a deer to shoot in those areas because everyone was shooting them all with the unlimited tags. I quit going up there as there's no point in wasting time and gas to not see anything. Never mind there are thousands of acres of private ground that no one can hunt or only a few deer will be taken off of in a years time. Face the facts once it's there it going to be there.To say the WI DNR didn't do anything when this first started here would be flat out wrong.

I really don't think some of you comprehend that most ground is privately owned and you can't just go in there and start shooting deer because you want to. It doesn't work that way. CWD isn't going anywhere.
BTW way did any of you click on that link I posted earlier in this thread or look at where CWD can be present?

https://www.hunttalk.com/threads/wh...ears-of-direct-involvement.294614/page-5

Posted By: Badger23

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 11/11/21 06:36 PM

This thread died quick when I posted those links.
Posted By: Badger23

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/08/22 11:18 AM

Brought this back up for the Alabama CWD thread. Read the links for information. Sorry guys the prions are in the soil. Killing all your deer isn't going to work, CWD will still be there.
Posted By: TC1

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/08/22 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by danvee
I have never read where there has been a case transmitted to humans anyone heard anything different.


I believe in early November of 2020 a nationwide test showed approximately 81 million cases were “supposedly” accounted for. Hard to say though, many of the test results mysteriously vanished. Lol
Posted By: Dirty D

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/08/22 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by MJM
Is killing deer to throw them away, any different then trapping worthless fur that brings a couple dollars?


If CWD greatly decreases deer harvest and thus we have deer all over the place like rats you'll see one of the greatest ecological disasters ever
Posted By: MJM

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/08/22 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Dirty D
If CWD greatly decreases deer harvest and thus we have deer all over the place like rats you'll see one of the greatest ecological disasters ever

That may hold water if CWD didn't kill deer. I have spoke to some people here that say in some areas you could find a lot of dead deer and by the time the season opened you could not find a live one. Mother nature can kill off more faster than man. Do you think they try to stop the spread because it increases the deer population?
Posted By: Turtledale

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/08/22 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by MJM
Is killing deer to throw them away, any different then trapping worthless fur that brings a couple dollars?

Yes, no matter the dollar amount for the fur it IS getting used.
Just because you don't get what you want doesn't make it used as a jacket etc.. any different.
Posted By: rvsask

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/08/22 06:02 PM

That’s a lot of coyote bait.
Posted By: TC1

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/08/22 08:51 PM

^ that’s what I see
Posted By: Snowpa

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/08/22 10:18 PM

I am a couple miles east of the CWD line
i have to bone out deer to take them west in this last season we took 3 deer . total deer through whole season was 11 All processed now but it was a real ***** for sure
Posted By: CaseXX

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/09/22 04:16 AM

Sorry, I need more context than a couple pics. I once was stoped by a DNR cop saw my deer while he watched for them from overpass watching for just that. Unknown to me where I was hunting was a covid state. I was coming home to Indiana he said I could not take the deer across state line he would have to confiscate it. I asked what would happen to the deer. He told me they have a spot to put them and a DNR employee will pick them up. While he had me pulled over another truck drove past he told me to stay he will be right back, he went and stoped the other truck, presumably to do the same thing. I don't know how many he got that day but if it was his job for the day I bet it was several he had to have somewhere to put them while doing his job. I'm guessing this is what the pic is. No reason I can see for that many deer to be dropped in one place. No other trash just deer carcasses. Naaa something ain't right about those pics.
Posted By: Badger23

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/09/22 04:43 AM

CaseXX, as someone who sees the dumpsters set up yearly for people to put the boned out carcasses in it's real. Some will put a whole deer in the dumpsters as well but that's not too often here. Most hunters bone out the deer and eat it as normal. I'm sure some wait for the results if they've dropped the head off at a drop box to be tested. If I shot an obviously sick and unhealthy deer I'd get the head tested as well and hold off finalizing the processing of the meat if I even cut it up which would be doubtful. I have yet to do that though as the deer I've gotten have all looked healthy. BTW they tasted great too.

In the counties just above mine when CWD first was reported way back in the early 2000's there were dumpsters that were being filled with whole deer like that there. People were going out and shooting as many deer as they could find and throwing them away because the DNR caused a panic and said you'd have to kill all the deer to save the deer. Also they had everyone afraid to eat any deer because of CWD whether the deer was positive or not. To me it's a sickening, wasteful sight.
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/09/22 05:09 AM

WI DNR put out cwd dumpsters , they are good and bad , good that it is a place to take all your carcasses for "proper" disposal

bad because it looks awful when you see a deer with just the back straps cut out , now those could have been road kill deer but you have no way of knowing.


in order to comply with the multi state CWD transport and disposal regs placing your carcass in the a dumpster is one of the easiest ways to go
Posted By: Mad Scientist

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/09/22 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by CaseXX
Sorry, I need more context than a couple pics. I once was stoped by a DNR cop saw my deer while he watched for them from overpass watching for just that. Unknown to me where I was hunting was a covid state. I was coming home to Indiana he said I could not take the deer across state line he would have to confiscate it. I asked what would happen to the deer. He told me they have a spot to put them and a DNR employee will pick them up. While he had me pulled over another truck drove past he told me to stay he will be right back, he went and stoped the other truck, presumably to do the same thing. I don't know how many he got that day but if it was his job for the day I bet it was several he had to have somewhere to put them while doing his job. I'm guessing this is what the pic is. No reason I can see for that many deer to be dropped in one place. No other trash just deer carcasses. Naaa something ain't right about those pics.


Pics are of deer people are afraid to eat or to lazy to cut up and freeze till test results come back.These little dumpsters of deer are nothing compared to what took place near mount horeb Wisconsin.
Posted By: CaseXX

Re: Mn DNR at its finest - 01/09/22 11:53 AM

Thanks for the additional info.
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