If You are Homeless

Should you be having children on top of children you already have?

I saw that just the other day. Baby Daddy was pushing the bicycle, Baby Momma was carrying the bags with an 8 month belly leading the way.

Sorry, I woke up with the tv on and OD’d on liberalism before I got up and turned it off.

I have figured out that "homeless" does not equal destitute in all cases. It is a way of life for a percentage and they choose to live like that.

That’s fine, but I should be able to choose not to help those who choose that lifestyle.

BTLowry X2. Most cases it is a choice. Life style. Living off a system that enables the behavior. I have come to realize as well. 1 they are unable to work. Due to Mental disorders. And they refuse help to become a responsible human being. Who I truly feel sorry for. Are the children that they bring in the world. Those kids don’t have a chance

Kinda like mountain men ?
Freedom of choice lol.

Oh wait that's different..

Well this chic was on a show with the whole woe is me living out of a car and how embarrassing it was for her daughter but she’s doing the best she can. No man mentioned in the entire interview. She doesn’t understand why cities aren’t better prepared to have housing available for the homeless. Update a couple years later and she is still homeless but has a new baby.

I agree that having children you can't afford us a poor life decision. But, if we're honest, most homeless people got to be homeless because that have a habit of making poor life decisions.

So what should be done about it? Forced abortions? Forced sterilization? It's not the unborn baby's fault that their parents make poor decisions, and all babies are worth celebrating.

Not to mention the legal and constitutional aspects of forced abortions/sterlization.

Give everyone everything they want, and the Fed can be in debt 27 trill or whatever it happens to be today. Nothing is anybodys' fault.

How about offering $5000 cash and a free hysterectomy.....how could they turn that down?

No, homeless people should not be planning to have children. That’s a no brainer.

Now imagine how much more common this would be if abortion were made illegal everywhere as so many R are pulling for? They say you can’t have your cake and eat it too fellas.

Outlaw abortion and don't pay folks for having kids. It would be a harsh "welcome to reality" moment but it would work in the end. Now if the body of Christ does their job, along with non-religious charitable organizations, that time of harshness will be more bearable when it pertains to the children.

Someone will always step up and take care of the children.......same as puppies and kittens.

True, just like with the nearly half a million in foster care. However, unlike with puppies, many just do it for the money and when the kids turns 18……………

See ya.

...add in a Gold leaf Shopping cart. And backpack full of needles

That's on society. Throwing the problem away in the medical waste bag isn't the solution, even though it's awful convenient. Kinda cheapens life though....

Anyone that is homeless in this country is homeless because they choose to be. This country has more hand outs for people that don't deserve it than any country in the world. Where else can you find 400 pound "Poor people". Years ago I was an apartment building manager. Some of the buildings I managed took section 8. The inspectors would get mad because the apartment was nicer than the one they lived in.

Finster, during the Bush administration housing boom they were building 2000 sq. ft. HUD homes just outside of Little Rock.

If I was personally homeless, I would get a job.

Having kids is a “ job” for many people today if you want a raise just have another free kid it’s that easy.

Used to be you had to provide an address to be hired. That happened to me in California in 1980. It might be different now. It seems that all homeless people have phones now so that's not a problem.

Used to be you had to provide an address to be hired.

I support a local Ministry for the Community outreach.
Next to the hot food program , the mail address offered is invaluable to them.
Will always help the impaired , its just Me.

The serious abusers are section 8 and living large on taxpayers funded programs.
Mam-Maw has the kids and the cards.
Baby Mama is out securing at least 18 more years of future payments.
Baby daddy, when out is helping everyone of those he can.
All three have been highly trained.

Of course this is just my opinion.

Drug abuse and mental illness are probably the two biggest issues. I know of two very respectable families that have kinfolk that choose to live that way. Families would like to help but the individuals don't want to live like normal folks.

I don't know what the solution is....but I believe in the mantra that if "you don't work-you don't eat". Enabling this behavior is flat out wrong.

My dad was homeless for about two years. Hopped trains, sometimes stayed in flop houses, visited a soup kitchen form time to time. But he also worked odd jobs wherever he went.
This was the early part of the depression and lots of America's youth also were to be found in hobo camps. Just before he passed in 1998 I asked him what had been the favorite part of his life. He answered (without hesitation) it was those two years on the road where he didn't know where his next meal would come from, or which fork of the road he would next take. But he had freedom.

Do you know they were homeless prior to conception? Are you suggesting either that they should abort the pregnancy because they're homeless?

Finster I disagree. Not everyone chooses to be homeless.
As a teen I always saw this truck in a parking lot once in awhile I'd see a guy next to it. Fast forward a year or 2 I was working at subway and that guy became a friend if you will. His wife left him and took everything he had no family so he had no where to turn. His truck broke down and he was living in it and was working at the day labor place for awhile. One day he comes in and tells me, bye and thanks for everything. I was puzzled so he told me he saved up the truck is fixed and he bought a house. I never saw him again.

Every time the media shows supposedly poor people that are overweight, full of expensive tats, playing with their Iphones, dressed in nice clothes, expensive modified hair doos they kind of ruin the narrative. I don't have any of that stuff.

Boy I do not know about that,,, some seem want be homeless some to be on transitory period,,, then there is drugs and there is mental illness . But choose hmmm that a tough one.
America is in richest 3 percent of world our pocket change would feed a lot people let that sink in a 30 seconds or so. So if your not homeless thank GOD if you have Food thank GOD .
Everytime or anytime I buy a new gun I could be homeless.
Happy New Years

True.Some people dont want a roof over their head-so what.
Society try to force them into someplace-they leave.

The early fur trade was fuelled by homeless people.
Not everybody wants to be a sheep.
Freedom.

Its not the homeless having babies.Its the section 8 government subsidized housing,,government paid rent,,,heat,,, food,,cell phones,, air conditioning and every baby means a pay raise folks having all the babys.

In the city of Santa Anna, Ca they pay the homeless $250/week, as long as you don't have an address!
Add on top of this it costs the city $3.8-3.9 million to clean up after them.
It's a shame how much enabling our society has become in the name of "social justice "

There's a park here where alot of homeless hang out during the daytime. There are some serious mental issues for sure. Some even kinda uncomfortable to be around.

I doubt the early shop keepers allowed fur trappers to camp out in front of there doors for days on end, crapping in the doorways, and running off their customers.

This is a strange and inconsiderate take from somebody in the most patriotic country in the free world. You have a gargantuan number of homeless veterans, about 1000 in your state alone. It is possible you know, that stuff like PTSD s as a result of serving one’s country can contribute to homelessness. To say that it is a choice for them to be homeless spits in the face of the cordial “thanks for serving” comments that flow so freely.

Yes, there’s a problem here too with handouts, but to blame everyone homeless as choosing to be is ignorant at best. Think of that next time you thank a homeless veteran.

Seems odd ww1 and ww2 vets seemed to do ok. But his coment stands 100% true especially for vets. There are lots of help to be had for the homeless. If they don't take advantage of it thats on them.

There are tent citys under over passes in Louisville. The people there are there from a lot of diffrent reasons a lot self inflicted ither beyond there controle.
They stay there becuse they choose to not better themself.

There used to be mental institutions in Nebraska but they were closed due to abuse. Now those same people are living on the streets. Now here in Fla. there is a huge big new mental health facility being built right beside the hospital. Will be interesting to see if it affects the homeless population any.

I agree with you,Boco.

Providence that was when men were men long before the liberal push for emasculation of the male population and the beginning of no appreciation for doing the job but chastisement because it wasn’t done the way the people who weren’t there wanted it done.

Don’t work…don’t eat. That will eliminate it one way or the other.

Being homeless is like being on a real long camping trip.

a adam, you're close to the green with your shot. Most comments on this forum are what I used to think before I began to mentor at Dallas Life, the largest homeless shelter in Dallas.
I have learned so much being involved with one of the finest shelters in the nation, one that Ben Carson visited many times while he was involved in the last administration.

A. Most homeless shelters in the nation's largest cities have a 95% recidivism rate, meaning there is very little accomplished as far as working with the homeless person to not be homeless anymore.
B. The reason Dr. Carson visited Dallas Life so often was an attempt to replicate in other cities what Bob Sweeney and his staff at DL have done >>>> over 95% of the homeless who enroll in the DL program will be eliminated from the homeless roles by 12 months.
..........Oh and the democrat administrations have "never" sent anyone to visit this amazing program. Trump's administration was repeatedly there.
C. The # 1 reason someone ends up being homeless is they have no one to turn to. Are there other reasons? Sure, plenty of them, but the overwhelming reason someone ends up in the doorstep is NOT they want to be homeless. Quite the opposite. I will once again meet with one homeless man starting again after the holidays who was a CEO in Dallas, living a high end life. He drank too many one night and got in a felony car accident. Felony accident = lost his job. Lost his job = wife filed for divorce. Wife leaving and not having a job = lost his house. No paying on truck = lost his truck. And the man has no family. No living relatives. No adult kids. So at wit's end and with no where to turn, he walked into the homeless shelter. In less than a year, from the pent house to the basement.
D. Are the homeless addicted? Almost always. Sure. And you would be also if you lived on the streets. Woman are assaulted almost weekly. Men now more than ever also. So an addiction rehab is the first theme upon someone being admitted to the shelter.
E. Oh, and the person on the street corner. I have learned by being involved in this area, that the person on the street corner is a biz person. This is the biz they choose. They even know how long they have to work a certain $$ amount.
F. I do not give to those on the corner but Donna and I support our local homeless shelter.
G. All of us are not that far removed from incredibly harsh life situations and thank God for those whose hearts are open to the truth.

Thought I'd help clarify the situation.
Blessings,
Mark

Thank you Mark for a very insightful look at homelessness perhaps it will shed light in others eyes.

How big a prick do you have to be that you can’t call on family in a time of need?

Never mind, don’t answer that, I just recalled a couple of our family members.

HT, there are more people than we realize who have no friends and family, or no one they can turn to. The woman who hangs out in the seminary library lost her husband to cancer 10 years ago. No kids. No close family members other than a cousin who is not an option. She is probably about 55 years old although we have a saying at the shelter that street living adds 20 years to your life and most homeless will live less than 3 years on the streets. Death is routine.

Count your blessings if you say, "look at all the people I could call." There are untold thousands who can't say that.
As a Christian, I am commanded by the Lord Jesus Christ to aid the widow, orphan, and alien among us.
It's far easier for the world to blame than to aid.
We all witness that all the time.

Blessings,
Mark

If you want to know about a homeless person, sit down an ask them for their story. I did this one night after spending probably 40-50$ at a mexican restaurant with drinks. I walked out an there was a homeless man sitting on a bench. I took the time to sit down beside him an asked him to tell me his story. Try that next time.

Mark did the poor drunk high rolling ceo kill someone when he crashed? Maybe a famly or small child?

There is always more to the story and even if not he could have. I am not a good christian i guess becuse I feel nothing for him. Lost his wife heck he sounds like that was winning the lotto.

If I fell on hard times I wouldn't call on family, friends or the government. I suppose that would make me a giant prick. I don't foresee that happening but when I was young and before I came to know the true nature of many self proclaimed Christians I believed that but for the Grace of God goes me.

So,dont keep us in suspense-What was his story?