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Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN??

Posted By: ShagMan

Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 04:08 PM

The Cancer that is threatening America, aint in remission 😞

https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/sb22-031


Forgot to add this, a very good scholarly article defending the North American model, and predator control.

https://safariclub.org/no-justification-needed/
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 04:17 PM

Just click on the faces on the side of the page when you go to the link . Looks like a bunch of lesbian democrats to me. Or some femine males ???

Get what you vote for. Just like the nation and poopy joe
Posted By: Tofan

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 04:26 PM

This would be ok....if they let you trap them only. I wouldn't mind taking away the ability to hunt those as long as it was legal to trap that species. Is there some problem with population size of these species in colorado? I thought CO was very abundant with wildlife and used to be one of the grand trapping states of the old days.
Posted By: tomahawker

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Just click on the faces on the side of the page when you go to the link . Looks like a bunch of lesbian democrats to me. Or some femine males ???

Get what you vote for. Just like the nation and poopy joe


If Ben Franklin came back today hed say whats this I hear about women voting?.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 06:11 PM

When I was a kid it was common and great fun to make fun of the Texans who showed up for elk then deer season. It was those Texans who got it turned into a combined season and made leasing hunting permission a reality.

Then people in CA started figuring out they could sell their home in the city , buy 20-30 acres and build a new house with money left over, in CO. They started voting too. First came zoning laws. They were being taken advantage of by unscrupulous builders. They wanted someone else to take of them the way they had been in west Covina or whatever. Freedom shreedom, too lazy to look out for their selves. Like cockroaches they kept creeping in till they were an infestation. Destroying the place they were moving too in the same fashion.

I fail to see how anyone can be surprised that the cockroaches want things to be exactly like they are on their home planet of California
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Get what you vote for. Just like the nation and poopy joe


The nation did not vote Joe, you know it and so does everyone else.

Originally Posted by Tofan
This would be ok....if they let you trap them only. I wouldn't mind taking away the ability to hunt those as long as it was legal to trap that species. Is there some problem with population size of these species in colorado? I thought CO was very abundant with wildlife and used to be one of the grand trapping states of the old days.


You just keep digging your hole deeper and deeper. frown
Posted By: Buck (Zandra)

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Tofan
This would be ok....if they let you trap them only. I wouldn't mind taking away the ability to hunt those as long as it was legal to trap that species. Is there some problem with population size of these species in colorado? I thought CO was very abundant with wildlife and used to be one of the grand trapping states of the old days.

You don't seem to have a clue about Colorado and its trapping regs,or what this legislation is all about
Posted By: Yes sir

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
Originally Posted by Tofan
This would be ok....if they let you trap them only. I wouldn't mind taking away the ability to hunt those as long as it was legal to trap that species. Is there some problem with population size of these species in colorado? I thought CO was very abundant with wildlife and used to be one of the grand trapping states of the old days.

You don't seem to have a clue about Colorado and its trapping regs,or what this legislation is all about

Seems to be a pattern for him.
Posted By: Hoosier71

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 06:33 PM

Tofan- Why would you be ok with taking away someone's hunting rights? United we stand or divided we fall.


Also, for those in the know, are there Canadian Lynx in Colorado?
Posted By: ShagMan

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 06:52 PM

Lynx were reintroduced in 1999 at a great cost to the tax payer, there are some breeding pairs and a hand full of native sons. Strictly off limits to hunting or trapping.

23 years later the population is far from booming,

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gazett...570-ff12-11e9-a084-df1992ca9e70.amp.html

Personally I feel bobcats are filling the niche, particularly in this mega drought, and summer months.

At any rate, this like many things today is undoubtedly politically driven, there is no evidence of population decline of any of the three species targeted. In fact I average at least one Mt. Lion a year in a bobcat trap each season and average 5 live traps drug out and messed with each season. I assure you that the Lion population here in CO is the highest it has ever been.
No, Im pretty sure the Governors husband is a huge animal rights activist, this all came up over a bottle of wine.
Posted By: ShagMan

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 06:55 PM

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Posted By: wy.wolfer

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 08:23 PM

Urban, women, Democrats from Boulder area. They want to manage wildlife with their emotions, rather than letting the state biologists manage, using the best science available. Charging up people's emotions is the way they get votes, and most politicians are searching for emotional issues to rally their voting base, whether they understand the issue or not.
Posted By: lee steinmeyer

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 08:34 PM

Dems dont believe in freedoms of any kind. Want the .gov to make all decisions from cradle to grave. If they ever totally get their way, no place will be fit to live!
Posted By: Muskeg

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 08:51 PM

Shocked they havent taken this away years ago. The CDOW went down along time ago
Posted By: wornout

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 08:52 PM

Great post Lee. Wonder why the majority can't figure it out?
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 09:01 PM

ShagMan, i seen a lynx caught and released in the 60's just over the hill from you. Fox creek by Coaldale. Always been a rare one around I'd say. I think they are like lions in KS that wander here occasionally.. Wandered down from up north. Just like KS is not good lion habitat CO is not good Lynx habitat. Was a really stupid idea to turn some loose. They are not thriving. If the habitat was there the cats would be too.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 09:02 PM

I hunted elk over 20 years in CO. The last 6 years was with an outfitter out of Craig. He said too many left wing, liberal, Hollywood types moved into the area. They got their types in office and have been doing their best to stop all forms of trapping, hunting, etc. He told me horror stories about some of the crazies in Steamboat Springs. Tree huggers and save the animals too many of them.
Posted By: Wanna Be

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 09:04 PM

What about wolf hazing?

https://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/cpw-commission-approves-emergency-wolf-hazing-rules/
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 09:14 PM

the world has gone crazy
Posted By: Tofan

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
Originally Posted by Tofan
This would be ok....if they let you trap them only. I wouldn't mind taking away the ability to hunt those as long as it was legal to trap that species. Is there some problem with population size of these species in colorado? I thought CO was very abundant with wildlife and used to be one of the grand trapping states of the old days.

You don't seem to have a clue about Colorado and its trapping regs,or what this legislation is all about


No, you are correct, I don't know about Colorado trapping regs, because I live and trap in the state of Louisiana. I also read the legislation because a link was posted, but are you suggesting there is some alterior motive to the legislation? The only "clue" I have about Colorado is all the complaining about democrats taking over the state and changing the laws and that Magpul left Colorado after the state banned high capacity magazines.

@Hoosier71

Is a person really hunting bobcat or are they shooting them at times of opportunity? Either way if the ability is there to trap them, I am going to go with trapping every single time. If there is no ability to trap, but ability to hunt, obviously I support keeping the hunting avenue open.
Posted By: Monster Toms

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 10:02 PM



No, you are correct, I don't know about Colorado trapping regs, because I live and trap in the state of Louisiana. I also read the legislation because a link was posted, but are you suggesting there is some alterior motive to the legislation? The only "clue" I have about Colorado is all the complaining about democrats taking over the state and changing the laws and that Magpul left Colorado after the state banned high capacity magazines.

@Hoosier71

Is a person really hunting bobcat or are they shooting them at times of opportunity? Either way if the ability is there to trap them, I am going to go with trapping every single time. If there is no ability to trap, but ability to hunt, obviously I support keeping the hunting avenue open.


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Yes we call and shoot bobcats here with frequency. Trapping is limited to cages. Colorado averages 1800-2000 cats harvested annually! Numbers have stayed consistent, so taking them seems to be doing their population good.

Colorado in a nutshell is one of the most regulated states, be it fishing, hunting or fur harvesting.
Posted By: Tofan

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Monster Toms


No, you are correct, I don't know about Colorado trapping regs, because I live and trap in the state of Louisiana. I also read the legislation because a link was posted, but are you suggesting there is some alterior motive to the legislation? The only "clue" I have about Colorado is all the complaining about democrats taking over the state and changing the laws and that Magpul left Colorado after the state banned high capacity magazines.

@Hoosier71

Is a person really hunting bobcat or are they shooting them at times of opportunity? Either way if the ability is there to trap them, I am going to go with trapping every single time. If there is no ability to trap, but ability to hunt, obviously I support keeping the hunting avenue open.




Yes we call and shoot bobcats here with frequency. Trapping is limited to cages. Colorado averages 1800-2000 cats harvested annually! Numbers have stayed consistent, so taking them seems to be doing their population good.

Colorado in a nutshell is one of the most regulated states, be it fishing, hunting or fur harvesting.
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Thanks for that information, I didn't know that you guys were that regulated. Those numbers are pretty small to be honest, we had an average of a little less than 6k here cats annually here the past year. Thats great to hear you call them in, I know some of us down here could use some of that magic. When did the cage thing happen? We were in Washington State for a little awhile, and the folks there always told me that cage trapping wasn't that bad, but my mind always thought about how tough it must be to set a bunch of traps because of the logistics of it. I have purchased some cages to try it down here though in places where maybe other traps wouldn't be a good look.
Posted By: red mt

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 11:51 PM

This coming to a state near you soon if we do not pay attention!!!!
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/13/22 11:51 PM

Plenty of weed though! That's not regulated. Oops, that elephant in the room....
Posted By: coloradocat

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/16/22 05:24 AM

Weed is highly regulated in Colorado. So much so, its starting its own black market again.

Never count the Colorado crew out of a good old science based arguement. Except this time its at the legislature level. This I know as fact, the person leading the charge is the best individual for the job. I would suspect he will eventually hold office as some level. He has that much political cloat. We know, they can lose as many times as it takes, we only have to lose once.

If we lose it, everyone will complain we should have done something different, if we win people will go straight back into there entitlement without even a thank you.

Sportsmen in general are more concerned about whats in it for them, and not looking at the big picture of what is common ground. The excuses normally go as follows for not wanting to participate. " Thats what I pay my dues for", "CPW has our best interest", "Id help, but man I have alot going on in my life", " I cant get off work that day". My response usually falls into this realm, well if you can physically help, could you help finacially? Lobbyists are not cheap, and we just hired a additional one, and probably need one more. So I ask, whats it worth to ya? If you are a Outfitter Lion hunter you are probably running them through at 20-25 a season. Too the tune of roughly 3k-6k per harvest. 100k in gross income should be worth something right? Your not gonna fight the battle, mainly just complain that its everyone elses problem. So whats it worth? 5 bucks? 20 bucks? a grand? ten grand? Id say the latter, ammortized over the course of the next few years its literally pennies on the dollar. Fail to help, its game over. This one is 4th quarter, 30 seconds left of the clock, and your down by 2. When the buzzer sounds, its over. No do overs, no instant replay, done as you know it today. Grow some nuts, get educated, be engaged, and be a part of solution. Stop blaming the world for YOUR problems. Men with nuts, engage on issues that may change there way of life. Dont be a Karen and watch from the sidelines, and if you do, dont point fingers when it doesnt go your way!
Posted By: Pawnee

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/16/22 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by Tofan
This would be ok....if they let you trap them only. I wouldn't mind taking away the ability to hunt those as long as it was legal to trap that species. Is there some problem with population size of these species in colorado? I thought CO was very abundant with wildlife and used to be one of the grand trapping states of the old days.


Exactly what they want you to think. Im a nice guy and appreciate wildlife! No defend all outdoor sports or your kids wont be hunting turkeys in 30 years. The leftist play the long game. Not picking on you but we have to be on offense
Posted By: Pawnee

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/16/22 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by coloradocat
Weed is highly regulated in Colorado. So much so, its starting its own black market again.

Never count the Colorado crew out of a good old science based arguement. Except this time its at the legislature level. This I know as fact, the person leading the charge is the best individual for the job. I would suspect he will eventually hold office as some level. He has that much political cloat. We know, they can lose as many times as it takes, we only have to lose once.

If we lose it, everyone will complain we should have done something different, if we win people will go straight back into there entitlement without even a thank you.

Sportsmen in general are more concerned about whats in it for them, and not looking at the big picture of what is common ground. The excuses normally go as follows for not wanting to participate. " Thats what I pay my dues for", "CPW has our best interest", "Id help, but man I have alot going on in my life", " I cant get off work that day". My response usually falls into this realm, well if you can physically help, could you help finacially? Lobbyists are not cheap, and we just hired a additional one, and probably need one more. So I ask, whats it worth to ya? If you are a Outfitter Lion hunter you are probably running them through at 20-25 a season. Too the tune of roughly 3k-6k per harvest. 100k in gross income should be worth something right? Your not gonna fight the battle, mainly just complain that its everyone elses problem. So whats it worth? 5 bucks? 20 bucks? a grand? ten grand? Id say the latter, ammortized over the course of the next few years its literally pennies on the dollar. Fail to help, its game over. This one is 4th quarter, 30 seconds left of the clock, and your down by 2. When the buzzer sounds, its over. No do overs, no instant replay, done as you know it today. Grow some nuts, get educated, be engaged, and be a part of solution. Stop blaming the world for YOUR problems. Men with nuts, engage on issues that may change there way of life. Dont be a Karen and watch from the sidelines, and if you do, dont point fingers when it doesnt go your way!


Perfect!!! Hope to see yin February
Posted By: Steven 49er

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/16/22 06:55 PM

Odie, aint that the truth.

Go get em boys
Posted By: ShagMan

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/19/22 04:09 PM

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Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/19/22 04:28 PM

Posted By: Dirt

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/19/22 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by tomahawker
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Just click on the faces on the side of the page when you go to the link . Looks like a bunch of lesbian democrats to me. Or some femine males ???

Get what you vote for. Just like the nation and poopy joe


If Ben Franklin came back today hed say whats this I hear about women voting?.


That one went over their heads. The theory is this was the beginning of the end.
Posted By: riverratdm

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/19/22 05:08 PM

Have you seen the top pick for chairwoman of transportation try to psrk a car? None of these folks in charge have clue how to run what their over.

https://youtu.be/LAJYSq38OPk
Posted By: Hendricks

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/19/22 07:49 PM

One of the responses I've received:

Hi Jack,

Thank you for taking the time to reach out about SB22-031 concerning the hunting of bobcats, lynx, and mountain lions in Colorado, which would greatly impact how our state approaches conservation and potentially increase dangerous interactions between people and big cats.

I believe that good science should lead the way on environmental management here in Colorado. In its current form, I'm not sure this bill fits with that idea. Before I can vote on it, however, it will have to pass out of the Senate Agriculture Committee, which I don't serve on. Should it come out of committee, I'll keep a very close eye on how the bill may change, and will keep your concerns in mind should it reach my desk.

Talk soon,
Jeff

--
Senator Jeff Bridges
Colorado Senate District 26


The Agriculture committee are listed here:
https://leg.colorado.gov/committees/agriculture-natural-resources/2021-regular-session

we should apply some direct emails to them.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/19/22 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
When I was a kid it was common and great fun to make fun of the Texans who showed up for elk then deer season. It was those Texans who got it turned into a combined season and made leasing hunting permission a reality.

Then people in CA started figuring out they could sell their home in the city , buy 20-30 acres and build a new house with money left over, in CO. They started voting too. First came zoning laws. They were being taken advantage of by unscrupulous builders. They wanted someone else to take of them the way they had been in west Covina or whatever. Freedom shreedom, too lazy to look out for their selves. Like cockroaches they kept creeping in till they were an infestation. Destroying the place they were moving too in the same fashion.

I fail to see how anyone can be surprised that the cockroaches want things to be exactly like they are on their home planet of California

Everything you said is right on according to an outfitter I've hunted elk with in CO. Those are almost his exact words.
Posted By: upstateNY

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/19/22 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Tofan
This would be ok....if they let you trap them only. I wouldn't mind taking away the ability to hunt those as long as it was legal to trap that species.

That is just the kind of talk the Antis love to hear.
Posted By: Ohio Wolverine

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/19/22 10:15 PM

Seems very clear to me , that anyone that votes democrat has lost all their brain cells !
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: Unbelievable! Colorado AGAIN?? - 01/19/22 11:22 PM

I wonder if these floozies are aware of how much $ sportsmen bring to the state of Colorado......
Biggest elk herd in all 50 states.
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