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Posted By: AntiGov

Global warming believers - 01/14/22 01:51 AM

What is the target temperature for the globe ?

I hear alot of bologna on man made global warming ( now climate change ) and how man can change it back , but never on the target temp or a base line temp .

Please chime in if you can ......
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 01:56 AM

The goal is not any target temp. The goal is simply control over you and me.
Posted By: Leftlane

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 02:00 AM

Yup
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 02:06 AM

I hope the dinosaurs come back. Alligator is good and aren't they a dinosaur? I bet Trex would be more fun than a grizzly bear hunt. When I was in school and all the experts were telling us another ice age would soon be upon us I thought a wooly mammoth would be fun. It seems our ancestors liked to eat them. I cant imagine hunting them with a sharp rock tied to a stick if the meat wasn't real tasty.
Posted By: 52Carl

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 02:08 AM

The real question is, why are they setting goals for global temperature when they are battling "climate change"?
They stopped calling their crusade "Global Warming" due a number of factors. 1) They got busted for fudging data. 2) It ain't happening at a rate higher than what is normal for the past 1,000 years.
They adopted the phrase "Climate Change" because they couldn't prove global warming, and because that phrase is immune to criticism. Of course the climate is changing. Hard to argue against that meaningless phrase.
Posted By: wetdog

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
I hope the dinosaurs come back. Alligator is good and aren't they a dinosaur? I bet Trex would be more fun than a grizzly bear hunt. When I was in school and all the experts were telling us another ice age would soon be upon us I thought a wooly mammoth would be fun. It seems our ancestors liked to eat them. I cant imagine hunting them with a sharp rock tied to a stick if the meat wasn't real tasty.

Foot snares would work. I'd use a dump truck for a drag.
Posted By: SE.Current

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 02:13 AM

The weather is changing but itís not our fault or in our control. All the rules and regulations for climate change are to make us weaker and more dependent.
Posted By: Marty

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 02:14 AM

the climate has been changing for millions of years so this is nothing new at all....just another agenda of control
Posted By: Mike in A-town

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
I hope the dinosaurs come back. Alligator is good and aren't they a dinosaur? I bet Trex would be more fun than a grizzly bear hunt. When I was in school and all the experts were telling us another ice age would soon be upon us I thought a wooly mammoth would be fun. It seems our ancestors liked to eat them. I cant imagine hunting them with a sharp rock tied to a stick if the meat wasn't real tasty.


You'll have to choose Danny... General concensus is that the world was warmer in the time of the dinosaurs. And obviously colder during the time of the mammoth.

I wonder what a stretched and dried mammoth hide would bring in today's market... $7 to $8 maybe. But I bet you could make a lot of boots and bags out of tanned T-Rex leather.

Not sure I'd want to try and trap either one... I'd break the frame on my truck toting one appropriate size longspring.

Maybe a .50 BMG... Get Nosler to make a BIG Partition for it

Mike
Posted By: crossfox21

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 04:36 AM

Like I always say..
Why should I believe their 20 year prediction
When they can't even get tomorrow's forecast right half the time??
Posted By: Jerry Jr.

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Originally Posted by danny clifton
I hope the dinosaurs come back. Alligator is good and aren't they a dinosaur? I bet Trex would be more fun than a grizzly bear hunt. When I was in school and all the experts were telling us another ice age would soon be upon us I thought a wooly mammoth would be fun. It seems our ancestors liked to eat them. I cant imagine hunting them with a sharp rock tied to a stick if the meat wasn't real tasty.


You'll have to choose Danny... General concensus is that the world was warmer in the time of the dinosaurs. And obviously colder during the time of the mammoth.

I wonder what a stretched and dried mammoth hide would bring in today's market... $7 to $8 maybe. But I bet you could make a lot of boots and bags out of tanned T-Rex leather.

Not sure I'd want to try and trap either one... I'd break the frame on my truck toting one appropriate size longspring.

Maybe a .50 BMG... Get Nosler to make a BIG Partition for it

Mike


Barnes has you covered there.
Posted By: Giant Sage

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 05:36 AM

Its all going to burn.
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by wetdog
Originally Posted by danny clifton
I hope the dinosaurs come back. Alligator is good and aren't they a dinosaur? I bet Trex would be more fun than a grizzly bear hunt. When I was in school and all the experts were telling us another ice age would soon be upon us I thought a wooly mammoth would be fun. It seems our ancestors liked to eat them. I cant imagine hunting them with a sharp rock tied to a stick if the meat wasn't real tasty.

Foot snares would work. I'd use a dump truck for a drag.

"Cable Restraint Device" if you please. Snare sounds so..............caveman.....
Posted By: Squash

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by trapdog1
The goal is not any target temp. The goal is simply control over you and me.


And money.
Posted By: Pawnee

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 12:30 PM

Cyclone activity is much less now than it was 90 years ago. The hurricanes in the 1930ís were terrible. I believe the 1950ís were close to the 30ís but donít quote me on that. If youíre talking dollars worth of damage by natural disasters like fire, drought or storms itís more now because there are lots more people then there was 100 years ago. Headlines that read ďMost Costly Storm EverĒ are never put into prospective. People just read them and think the world is ending. I believe man can make a mess of the environment but change the climate is a solid No.
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 01:06 PM

They are planting a solar farm near here which is taking up 3 or 4 thousand acres. They have engulfed a few farm houses with their all look alike scenery. Much of it was marginal farm land, still farmland that did produce food and oxygen. Looks like they are leaving a margin along the highways, hopefully for planting tree or bushes to block the wonderful view of their man made green project. Where is Lady Bird Johnson when we need her ?
Posted By: Leftlane

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 01:15 PM

Brad you are right but also the repair costs are way up as well.
Posted By: bowhunter27295

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 01:29 PM

Stupid and gullible people vote for salesmen who cater to their perceived stupidity and gullible reality.

As Forest Gump would say.........
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Foxpaw
They are planting a solar farm near here which is taking up 3 or 4 thousand acres. They have engulfed a few farm houses with their all look alike scenery. Much of it was marginal farm land, still farmland that did produce food and oxygen. Looks like they are leaving a margin along the highways, hopefully for planting tree or bushes to block the wonderful view of their man made green project. Where is Lady Bird Johnson when we need her ?

Sounds like a lot of ruined wildlife habitat too.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by wetdog
Originally Posted by danny clifton
I hope the dinosaurs come back. Alligator is good and aren't they a dinosaur? I bet Trex would be more fun than a grizzly bear hunt. When I was in school and all the experts were telling us another ice age would soon be upon us I thought a wooly mammoth would be fun. It seems our ancestors liked to eat them. I cant imagine hunting them with a sharp rock tied to a stick if the meat wasn't real tasty.

Foot snares would work. I'd use a dump truck for a drag.

Hahaha!
Posted By: warrior

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 08:24 PM

I came across something interesting while researching southern honey plants.

It seems "global warming" and rising sea levels are driving mangroves out of south Florida and into the northern Gulf Coast.

Some mangroves popped up in Pensacola, nine of them to be exact. So a bunch of money was spent to set up an extensive research project to determine why global warming did this and the impacts of shifting tropical species on the native cord grass salt marsh.

Then all the mangroves froze to death.
Posted By: black beaver

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 08:30 PM

For a dispatch gun I use one of those .50 caliber guns laugh
Posted By: oneuglyduck

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by AntiGov
What is the target temperature for the globe ?

.....
the target temp is\\daytime high of 70 and low of 60 at night. thats the temps works for me..
Posted By: danvee

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 09:48 PM

Anti its like getting bears or wolves delisted there will never be enough the goal post just keeps moving back.
Posted By: Turtledale

Re: Global warming believers - 01/14/22 11:21 PM

All I know is I'm getting sick of these warmer weather trends we've had in my neck of the woods.
The last ten years it's been getting warmer and warmer.
I miss the winter weather. We get months on end now of mud and freeze/thaw, rain, snow up and down weather.
Used to be winter arrived with snow and freezing temps about November and let up about middle of March.
Now we're lucky to get 6 to 7 weeks of uninterrupted winter.

Why is everything getting warmer? Heck I don't know but I bet it isn't cow farts
Posted By: lee steinmeyer

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 12:33 AM

The sun is the culprit, maybe the dumbocrats can fleece sum money out of the sun! One of these days, It will turn around and get worse the other way!
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 12:38 AM

I am certainly no scientist but my uneducated opinion is that the earth has never stopped having climate change. Ice ages to perpetual summer and then back again.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 12:40 AM

Tax the people to fix a problem that they made up the tell them your the hero of the story.
Posted By: walleye101

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
I am certainly no scientist but my uneducated opinion is that the earth has never stopped having climate change. Ice ages to perpetual summer and then back again.


Danny..Danny......That was all before the Democrats took charge and changed what once was natural. Now you can change your sex but the climate needs to stay the same.
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Turtledale
All I know is I'm getting sick of these warmer weather trends we've had in my neck of the woods.
The last ten years it's been getting warmer and warmer.
I miss the winter weather. We get months on end now of mud and freeze/thaw, rain, snow up and down weather.
Used to be winter arrived with snow and freezing temps about November and let up about middle of March.
Now we're lucky to get 6 to 7 weeks of uninterrupted winter.

Why is everything getting warmer? Heck I don't know but I bet it isn't cow farts

And at some point it will swing back the other way. Always has, always will.
Posted By: Turtledale

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Turtledale
All I know is I'm getting sick of these warmer weather trends we've had in my neck of the woods.
The last ten years it's been getting warmer and warmer.
I miss the winter weather. We get months on end now of mud and freeze/thaw, rain, snow up and down weather.
Used to be winter arrived with snow and freezing temps about November and let up about middle of March.
Now we're lucky to get 6 to 7 weeks of uninterrupted winter.

Why is everything getting warmer? Heck I don't know but I bet it isn't cow farts

And at some point it will swing back the other way. Always has, always will.

Yep I agree. I just hope I live long enough to ride out the curve
Posted By: charles

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 02:44 AM

I am 75. It was a lot colder when I was a kid. Enough said.
Posted By: wetdog

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by charles
I am 75. It was a lot colder when I was a kid. Enough said.

75 years nothing when compared to the age of the plant
Your turn
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by charles
I am 75. It was a lot colder when I was a kid. Enough said.

So that's proof of climate change?
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 03:15 AM

It was also colder last Wednesday than it was today. Shocking.
Posted By: Kansas Cat

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 04:08 AM

Northern Kansas has glacial till. I would say we've warmed up considerably since that was deposited. How did we get rid of the glaciers before Frank Phillips got rich producing and refining crude oil. It must have been climate change. LOL. Don't tell the wokesters! There aren't enough safe spaces to handle the triggering that would occur.
Posted By: Ohio Wolverine

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by charles
I am 75. It was a lot colder when I was a kid. Enough said.



Actually , it wasn't colder , we just had more snow !
Big difference .
There's no politician going to change the climate by taxes or controlling how we live .
The goal of all politicians is to control your thinking .
Never what's good for anyone but for themselves .
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 08:11 AM

We did have more snow and it WAS colder when I was a kid. Not as cold as in 10,000 BC . Temperature is not static. The BIG question is: are we humans effecting weather? I think its possible. I also think its unlikely we are effecting it in a significant fashion.

https://geology.utah.gov/map-pub/su...ages-what-are-they-and-what-causes-them/
Posted By: Diggerman

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by charles
I am 75. It was a lot colder when I was a kid. Enough said.

My grandson said this was the coldest winter he could remember.
Posted By: walleye101

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Originally Posted by charles
I am 75. It was a lot colder when I was a kid. Enough said.



Actually , it wasn't colder , we just had more snow !


That's a fact. In 1956 the snow depth was over my head, and now it's just over knee high.
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 01:25 PM

Some of the old timers used to talk about sand drifts instead of snow drifts relative to the 1930's. Still my question is did the farming practices cause the drought or did the drought just compound the faulty farming practices.

The big weather factors my mom and dad always talked about was the drought in '36 and the flood in '37.
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 01:53 PM

In the early 50's the snow used to be up to my belly and now it never hardly gets to my knees !
Posted By: charles

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 03:12 PM

I remember commuting to work in the early 70s. I crossed over the mouth of a city lake. It was frozen solid for 8-10 weeks. Now it doesn't freeze over at all.
Posted By: BernieB.

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by charles
I remember commuting to work in the early 70s. I crossed over the mouth of a city lake. It was frozen solid for 8-10 weeks. Now it doesn't freeze over at all.


No Kidding, everyone was scared of a NEW ICE AGE coming in the 1970s because of the cold weather trends. Turns out that was all political too.
Posted By: wetdog

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by charles
I remember commuting to work in the early 70s. I crossed over the mouth of a city lake. It was frozen solid for 8-10 weeks. Now it doesn't freeze over at all.

Look up the Malinkovitch cycles. And don't just go to Wikipedia
Do a little research and you might just pour the rest of your cool aid done the drain
But I won't hold my breath
Posted By: Computer Hater

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Foxpaw
In the early 50's the snow used to be up to my belly and now it never hardly gets to my knees !


Could that be because in the 50's you were a little kid and a lot shorter? grin grin
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 04:56 PM

laugh
Posted By: Diggerman

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 05:32 PM

People talk like this global warming and co2 is a bad thing, I am pretty sure its what is contributing to the increased yields in crops needed to feed the ever increasing population.
Posted By: Flipper 56

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
I hope the dinosaurs come back. Alligator is good and aren't they a dinosaur? I bet Trex would be more fun than a grizzly bear hunt. When I was in school and all the experts were telling us another ice age would soon be upon us I thought a wooly mammoth would be fun. It seems our ancestors liked to eat them. I cant imagine hunting them with a sharp rock tied to a stick if the meat wasn't real tasty.

Someone that thinks like me! grin
Posted By: warrior

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 05:56 PM

Hey on the bright side it beats the ice age we were supposed to have back in the 70s and 80s. Really dodged a bullet on that one.
Posted By: Posco

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 06:05 PM

Go back through Time Magazine's apocalyptic covers and you'll find about every conceivable doomsday scenario spawned by the mind of man. They're consistent in their doomsdayism and need for Americans to yield some of their rights in order to save the planet.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 06:21 PM

I aint got no more yield left in me
Posted By: Posco

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
I aint got no more yield left in me

Same here.
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Posted By: T-Rex

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 06:52 PM

I believe in global warming, pandemic, and the Great Reset.
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by danny clifton
I aint got no more yield left in me


Right there with ya Danny. As far as I am concerned, the buck stops here. I rather like venison.
Posted By: Calvin

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Marty
the climate has been changing for millions of years so this is nothing new at all....just another agenda of control


This.

Where I'm standing right now only a short time ago (in geologic times) was 150 feet of ice.

Some people cant seem to see outside their tiny cubicle world.
Posted By: 3 Fingers

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 07:12 PM

Just turned from rain to snow here. I believe that means itís cooling
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by charles
I remember commuting to work in the early 70s. I crossed over the mouth of a city lake. It was frozen solid for 8-10 weeks. Now it doesn't freeze over at all.

Are you related to Faucci?
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 08:08 PM

Besides Charles, in 3 pages, everyone agrees that this is all a bunch of malarkey. So where is this majority of believers the leftist media keeps claiming are out there? I only know two personally out of a huge number of people.

Keith
Posted By: 52Carl

Re: Global warming believers - 01/15/22 09:02 PM

While 75 years represents a significantly lengthy amount of time for someone to remain ignorant, it represents a minuscule amount of time when discussing the entire world's climate history.
Posted By: lee steinmeyer

Re: Global warming believers - 01/16/22 02:10 AM

The charlie syndrome, Iíll call it, is very prevalent in the case of where people live and how close they are to cities, especially blue states. It also has to do with their length of time spent in university's. Those who believe this bunk also normally donít follow any religious faith. I say these things because, people I know and have known in my lifetime, follow these guidelines, also people I know on tman, that lean left also follow these lines. Now there will be a few that disclaim this, but these are things Iíve noticed in my almost 75 years on this ball, and Iíve never seen snow to my belly button, unless I broke through a very deep drift!
Posted By: ShawneeMan

Re: Global warming believers - 01/16/22 02:24 AM

Every time this global warming / climate change jazz comes up I always think of AlGore's (one word) doomsday clock.
That and overpopulation, mass starvation, resource depletion, mass extinction and a few more...
Sheesh - open your eyes America!!
Posted By: white marlin

Re: Global warming believers - 01/16/22 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by Posco
Go back through Time Magazine's apocalyptic covers and you'll find about every conceivable doomsday scenario spawned by the mind of man. They're consistent in their doomsdayism and need for Americans to yield some of their rights in order to save the planet.


^^^^^^^^^
THIS!

remember acid rain? we had to stop burning coal to keep us from deforming more frog legs.
Posted By: trapdog1

Re: Global warming believers - 01/16/22 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by ShawneeMan
Every time this global warming / climate change jazz comes up I always think of AlGore's (one word) doomsday clock.
That and overpopulation, mass starvation, resource depletion, mass extinction and a few more...
Sheesh - open your eyes America!!

Algore also said the debate is over.
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: Global warming believers - 01/16/22 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by 3 Fingers
Just turned from rain to snow here. I believe that means itís cooling


That depends...... Is it real snow, or that cheap frozen stuff.
Posted By: Pawnee

Re: Global warming believers - 01/16/22 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
The charlie syndrome, Iíll call it, is very prevalent in the case of where people live and how close they are to cities, especially blue states. It also has to do with their length of time spent in university's. Those who believe this bunk also normally donít follow any religious faith. I say these things because, people I know and have known in my lifetime, follow these guidelines, also people I know on tman, that lean left also follow these lines. Now there will be a few that disclaim this, but these are things Iíve noticed in my almost 75 years on this ball, and Iíve never seen snow to my belly button, unless I broke through a very deep drift!


Well put. Enough said!
Posted By: Osky

Re: Global warming believers - 01/16/22 01:33 PM

Some years ago for giggles I did a calculation. I took 160 years which I figure is the time we have had truly accurate thermometers and divided out against the 5.5 billion year life of this planet. Then converted that to time years /seconds. I came up with 160 years being .0000007 of a second in the lifetime of the earth. From this we know what things should be? Takes longer to blink your eye. Iím not Einstein on math so there is that.

I lived in Minnesota during the great ice age scare of the seventies and at that time there was a snowmobile race that started the Mpls St. Paul winter carnival. They raced for years from Winnipeg to St. Paul. It came along our property. As I read the chilling news that we were looking at a frozen doom the schools and media were teaching I was standing outside in tennis shoes and lite jacket on a foggy morning waiting for racers to go by maybe from white patch to white patch? Nope the thaw and warm closed the race. After two years of cancellation they abolished the race.

I built one of my homes in 91. I think it was that year we had 30 some inches of snow Halloween night?

Donít waste time questioning mother earth. She has her ways.

Osky
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