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Posted By: GRP

Venison - 01/18/22 04:34 PM

I harvested a medium sized doe yesterday, and I want to try my hand and grinding it up myself instead of taking it to a processor. My question is, do I HAVE to mix beef fat? I won't need it to mold into patties or balls, my family's fave uses of ground venison are chili, spaghetti, taco soups, and casseroles. I'll be cutting up and cubing, I'll check back this evening. Thanks in advance, you guys are awesome!
Posted By: SNIPERBBB

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 04:40 PM

No. Only time you need to add fat is if you want to make hamburgers or sausage. Anything that is "loose" doesnt require fat unless you just love beef or pork fat. Adding fat also reduces shelf life in freezer
Posted By: atrapper

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 04:42 PM

You’re going to get lots and lots of opinions on this. The short answer is no. Grind it up, fry a handful up and taste it. If you like it, perfect, you’re all set.
I’ve mixed my venison with beef burger, beef tallow, pork shoulder, pork fat, and bacon. My personal preference is to mix my venison with 15-20% bacon ends and pieces.
Posted By: MNSouthPaw

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 04:43 PM

I never add fat to my grinding. I trim my venison very well and remove all fat. This way my ground venison will work in any way, I can add fat when thawed if needed. I also cube alot for stews. My venison is farmland so I have little game flavors.
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Posted By: Mad Scientist

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 04:44 PM

It’s really up to your taste buds.I normally don’t add fat but will sometimes mix a pound of venison with a pound of grass fed beef at cooking time.Depends on venison supply also.I do mix bacon in for hamburgers though.I’m kinda heavy on the bacon.2parts venison 1 part bacon and grind 3 times.Just my 2 cents.
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 04:46 PM

my favorite bone out video

get the meat off the bones cut the extra tallow off , cut in strips that fit in your grinder and grind . then vacuum pack if you can it keeps several years vacuum packed and frozen

I keep the back straps and tenderloins to make little medallion steaks and grind the rest , if my youngest wants to make jerky the rounds get cut into thin a strips as I can get with a knife

if you can lay your meat on cookie sheets or meat lugs and get it close to frozen it grinds faster

we add no other beef or pork or fat , great in chili , sloppy joe's / Sloppy Doe's , stew, meatloaf and tacos

Posted By: Norwestalta

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 04:46 PM

I do all my own wild game processing (elk,deer,moose) and don't add anything to my ground meat but I think it'll all depend on your preference.
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 04:49 PM

a good grinder is a long term investment in doing your own meat

I have an LEM #12 big bite 3/4 hp have had it since around 2009 and still runs like new , they have replacement knives and plates available when you do wear out a set also the nylon thrust washers that is the wear point


Horn a member here can get you set up with knives , a meat hook and a scabbard. the meat hook is a real hand saver
Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 04:50 PM

No.I never have.
Posted By: BernieB.

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by GRP
I harvested a medium sized doe yesterday, and I want to try my hand and grinding it up myself instead of taking it to a processor. My question is, do I HAVE to mix beef fat? I won't need it to mold into patties or balls, my family's fave uses of ground venison are chili, spaghetti, taco soups, and casseroles. I'll be cutting up and cubing, I'll check back this evening. Thanks in advance, you guys are awesome!


No you do not have to but it's a lot harder to cook if you do not. You'll probably add butter or oil in order to fry it so you might as well add some fat. I use ribeye fat and it not only improves the flavor, but it also makes the meat a lot easier to cook whether you are making patties or just loose meat. Fat is good for you and really improves the meat in a lot of ways in my opinion.

Posted By: Trapper7

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 05:02 PM

If you grind the venison, add some other type of meat to make a few patties, it would be smart to have some of the ground venison in 1 pound packages. Because once you thaw the ground venison, you can't add the other meat and then re-freeze it. We grind our venison and do that. So, when we want to make burgers, we will add regular ground beef. Venison is too lean for grilling on its own. The addition of regular ground beef keeps it together, IMO.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 05:05 PM

We add 1/3 fatty pork
Posted By: Redknot

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
We add 1/3 fatty pork

Same here..
Posted By: EdP

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 06:10 PM

My answer is "No, I never have." We don't make burgers from our ground vension. My wife does make venison meatballs but most of the ground is used for chilli, tacos, and lasagna.

I don't understand those who say it is up to your taste buds. Does that mean they don't like backstrap or roasts because they can't add beef or pork fat to it???
Posted By: yotetrapper30

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by EdP
My answer is "No, I never have." We don't make burgers from our ground vension. My wife does make venison meatballs but most of the ground is used for chilli, tacos, and lasagna.

I don't understand those who say it is up to your taste buds. Does that mean they don't like backstrap or roasts because they can't add beef or pork fat to it???



I think when they say taste, they don't really mean "flavor". Ground deer, or beef, without any fat added... will be dry. It's that dryness people are referring to when they say taste. Steaks, on the other hand, aren't dry like that due to cooking them to no more than medium. Some roasts ARE dry, but people tend to cover that up with gravy, broth or what have you. Buy a package of 97/3 ground beef. If you like that, you'll probably like venison without added fat.

To the OP, since all your meat will be ground for browning crumbles in a skillet, you can add fat (lard, butter, etc) to the frying pan when you cook it if desired.
Posted By: Redknot

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 06:31 PM

Angela, the pork that I put into my burger is in large part for the pattie to stay with together!! Goes the same for meatballs, but with those eggs help too...Just the way I roll...
Posted By: Monster Toms

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 07:00 PM

10-15% pork butt or picnic roast added to every wild game burger we grind. Especially for brats.
Posted By: charles

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 07:55 PM

I add 20% beef fat. We have for 50 years. Never make burgers but sometimes make meatballs. Good fat is better than just any old fat.
Posted By: Len Dunham

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 08:29 PM

No you don't have to just grind it.
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 08:51 PM

I just got this out of the freezer. Going to be too cold to play outside for a few days so I'll use this pork fat I saved from trimming pork butts I smoked for a wedding earlier this fall. I'll grind it to add to the ground deer for summer sausage and/or sticks and use some of the deer as is for jerky. My family doesn't care for it in place of ground beef but processed it's pretty good!

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Posted By: waggler

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 11:28 PM

If you aren't trying to make it stick together for something like patties you don't need to add anything.
Posted By: BigBob

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 11:30 PM

It will definitely taste different without the fat!
Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by waggler
If you aren't trying to make it stick together for something like patties you don't need to add anything.

Have never had a problem making patties with my deer meat with nothing added.
Posted By: AJE

Re: Venison - 01/18/22 11:57 PM

[quote=SNIPERB🦝] Only time you need to add fat is if you want to make hamburgers or sausage./quote]

I always process my own venison hamburger, have never added beef or fat to it. It taste great too, & is healthier & less expensive doing it the way I've been doing it. It also creates less mess when I cook it because it is so lean.

Posted By: Savell

Re: Venison - 01/19/22 12:00 AM

... grind brisket in with it
Posted By: J.Morse

Re: Venison - 01/19/22 01:16 AM

I agree with Bruce T. When I was growing up my mother always added beef suet to the venison burger. Barf. She would chop that crap up and stuff it in the grinder as I turned the crank....yeah, it had an armstrong motor and I was the arm. I detested venison burger. After I and my Bride were the only ones in charge of burger, be that procurement, grinding and packaging..........and I flat refused to add anything to the venison. To this day I prefer it contains nothing but 100% pure, well trimmed deer.

P.S. to above......my mother did not like my burger at all. She insisted it needed suet to "give it flavor"! Go figure.
Posted By: Marty B

Re: Venison - 01/19/22 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by Savell
... grind brisket in with it




You spelled bacon wrong.
Posted By: GRP

Re: Venison - 01/19/22 02:39 AM

Well, the "add nothing" posts convinced me to go 100% venison. It's all ground up, vacuum sealed, and freezing. My wife and I talked, and she can add butter, lard or as she prefers, coconut oil. We fixed some up tonight, and it turned out great. She said it was moist enough as is. They need killing, they're getting fat on my ryegrass and turn row soybeans and corn. Thanks for your comments, I appreciate all of them.
Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Venison - 01/19/22 02:43 AM

Nice.You won't regret it.Healther to boot.
Posted By: AJE

Re: Venison - 01/20/22 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by GRP
Well, the "add nothing" posts convinced me to go 100% venison. It's all ground up, vacuum sealed, and freezing. My wife and I talked, and she can add butter, lard or as she prefers, coconut oil. We fixed some up tonight, and it turned out great. She said it was moist enough as is. They need killing, they're getting fat on my ryegrass and turn row soybeans and corn. Thanks for your comments, I appreciate all of them.

Good choice. I just finished eating 1 myself. 100% venison. Tasted amazing.
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Venison - 01/20/22 08:14 PM

sick You guys can have that straight ground venison, all I use it for is jerky.

The house is smelling good today though, summer sausage, meat sticks and jerky....

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Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Venison - 01/20/22 09:21 PM

Nothing beats a nice juicy all venison cheeseburger....yum...yum
Posted By: upstateNY

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by Bruce T
Originally Posted by waggler
If you aren't trying to make it stick together for something like patties you don't need to add anything.

Have never had a problem making patties with my deer meat with nothing added.

Same here.I don't add anything.
Posted By: upstateNY

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by Bruce T
Nothing beats a nice juicy all venison cheeseburger....yum...yum

YUP.I fry up mushrooms and onions in a separate pan to top off my burger.Also a Big slab of onion,then a nice slice of swiss cheese on top of all that.I like my burgers SLOPPY. smile
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by Bruce T
Nothing beats a nice juicy all venison cheeseburger....yum...yum

YUP.I fry up mushrooms and onions in a separate pan to top off my burger.Also a Big slab of onion,then a nice slice of swiss cheese on top of all that.I like my burgers SLOPPY. smile



You ever try beef? lol
Posted By: upstateNY

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 01:35 AM

ADC,,I buy whole "Choice" Ribeyes from my local meat locker all the time.18-20 pounders.What I don't buy is burger. smile I will buy London broils and bottom rounds on sale and grind my own though. grin Also,,raised my own beefers for quite a few years.
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by upstateNY
ADC,,I buy whole "Choice" Ribeyes from my local meat locker all the time.18-20 pounders.What I don't buy is burger. smile I will buy London broils and bottom rounds on sale and grind my own though. grin Also,,raised my own beefers for quite a few years.


Then you are aware something does beat an all venison burger. laugh

BTW Chuck roasts make the best ground beef.
Posted By: upstateNY

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Originally Posted by upstateNY
ADC,,I buy whole "Choice" Ribeyes from my local meat locker all the time.18-20 pounders.What I don't buy is burger. smile I will buy London broils and bottom rounds on sale and grind my own though. grin Also,,raised my own beefers for quite a few years.


Then you are aware something does beat an all venison burger. laugh


Why yes.A Venison burger with mushrooms, onions and a slice of swiss on it,,beats and all venison burger, grin And chuck roasts DO grind into good burger. smile
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 01:51 AM

whistle
Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 02:13 AM

With beef you get that lard flavor.I would much rather have a 100% venison cheeseburger myself.
Posted By: teepee2

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 04:12 PM

Lard comes from pigs I think.
Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by teepee2
Lard comes from pigs I think.

Lol..... my mistake.Have always said lard.Just looked it up guess I should have said tallow flavor instead of lard flaver.
Posted By: fishnhunts

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 04:52 PM

I grind through the course grinder plate twice. If I add beef fat, I do about 10% and add on first trip through the grinder. For what you are using it for, I probably wouldn't go out of my way to buy beef fat. If it's available, it doesn't hurt in my opinion.
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Bruce T
Originally Posted by teepee2
Lard comes from pigs I think.

Lol..... my mistake.Have always said lard.Just looked it up guess I should have said tallow flavor instead of lard flaver.


No matter which way you spell it, it = great taste! It's why ribeye steaks are the best steaks. wink
Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Venison - 01/21/22 07:07 PM

Beef is fine but pure venison has a much better flavor to me. grin
Posted By: AJE

Re: Venison - 01/23/22 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by Bruce T
.. pure venison has a much better flavor to me.

And is healthier
Posted By: sevensixtwo

Re: Venison - 01/23/22 06:01 AM

Favorite thing to make with the backstraps
https://midwestniceblog.com/deer-wellington/

Takes a while but boy is it worth it.
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