Turnover rate at jobs

Don't see several temps lately again, lot call ins an in past, lot quits, walk outs common , with me I had new ones quit, been a temp for over 4years, at pt job, is that what like all over lot places , quit in less 2weeks ? I can think of a dz since last summer that work less half a day or maybe 2 days, that it, not sure what deal is, someone told me a big tax write off for create jobs an didn't care if quit ?

Most ( not all ) guys using temp agencies for employment are there because the have no work ethic and can't keep a permanent job .

Temp, as in temporary worker? Yeah I would assume they don't stay long.

temporary,
adjective

1. Lasting, used, serving, or enjoyed for a limited time.
2. Lasting for a time only; existing or continuing for a limited time; not permanent.

Some just need to work long enough for a couple 40 ouncers and a pack of cigs .

Was generally a common thing when I was a foreman at an old steel shop a few years ago to
see most temps only stay long enough to give them a stipend to not work steady over and over.

Usually not longer than a month or so !

Or they lost interest in the work or how hard the boss may make try to make them work.

Longest I ever had any one stay in the shop was a year, and he might have stayed longer
but the Owner never came through with what he promised the guy so he finally left.

He’s not going to like these responses!



Throwing down the definition of a temporary worker!

Turnover is high many places, no doubt about that. I don't know about write offs if somebody quits right away though. Thought you were moving on to greener pastures from your 2 PT jobs anyway. Have they gotten better?

No big tax write off! It actually costs a lot of time and money to hire someone, most employers want people to stay.

When they know they won’t have the proper caliber of worker, or if they know there will be turnover in a certain position. Those positions usually filled with low skilled workers. They use “temp” agency workers, knowing they will be there temporarily! Then they can call the agency and get another person, and they save money, rather than hiring a full time person and losing money.



Sorry!

I mean yeah, they want people to quit all the time, because they make more money in tax breaks that way, having the business is just a front so they can make money on tax breaks.

They have to know who there hire is going quit , they get charge $70 for time cards an other junk they give u if quit an not return , scam ? I don't get it , how could they afford live ? If I didn't need the money , long gone , at 62, if there, won't be long, dreaded hole in ground

Coonman is pushing the bell curve way over to the right in him as a temp in staying. He is an anomaly in temp workers in keep showing up. Have to give me credit for that!

It could be worse , your temp agency could send you out to the local cemetery to dig your own hole ...

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Coonman, have you given any thought on getting a job that you may actually like or can tolerate better? You've got lots to choose from in your area.

I guess temporary is just that-temporary.

They are charging $70 for time cards if they quit and not return? Return what? To work, or the time card?

Sounds like a $70 insurance policy to get people to come to work.

Hope you get to retire and maybe find some happiness Dave.

Keep your head up and keep moving forward.

We have been hiring every reject in the area recently. They took the testing requirements out of the hiring process, and it definitely shows. The new hires just want to sit in a chair and they all come in 30 minutes late. Our newest 24 year old female employee keeps peeing herself. I mean she's leaving puddles in the chairs!

They only need some cash to start a street business coonman.
You know, the illegal kind.

Jiggamitch, What kind of job are you doing? Tester for adult diapers? How is management handling that?

Seriously what do you do and what's it pay?

I work at texas instruments in a clean room facility. I am responsible for the workers in my area. I have to call a hazmat team every time. Upper management won't do anything because it's a possible medical issue.

Where I work, it depends on the age of the employee. If they're under 30, most (not all) don't last a month. 30+ they tend to last a year or more. Quite a few have been there over 10 years.

Not sure what a clean room facility is but it sounds like yours isn't very clean lol.

Ok, I know it's possible medical issue but it's a bio hazard issue as well. Reasonable accommodations are one thing, making a bio hazard mess is another. I'm a security supervisor and when a guest soils themselves they are asked to leave or we will offer them a pair of sweatpants to wear after they clean themselves up. I'm not a fan of the latter and couldn't get out of there fast enough if something like that happened to me, If they do it twice in the same visit, they're out.

I work in the alberta oil patch. Over the years I've noticed alot less turnover which is bad for new guys trying to break into the buisness but great for employers because they can send out a well seasoned experienced crew except at the oil sands. Lots of people coming and going there and many saying they've got lots of experience running the iron but it must of come from youtube and grand theft auto.

Hard find pt job close home that pay much, yes been to lazy an scared new job, bad idea but a month after 62, u can file SS, it up $100 about, then work 15 or lil more hrs a week elsewhere an SS, I scared healtb trouble start when quit work so much

What the hey??? Go to a local auto parts store. Ask for a roll of "Pig Mat" Those are a mat that sits on top of a 55 gallon barrel. They absorb spills from the bung. Those will make your job easier, just lay one on her chair each morning.

Better hope ol' joe doesn't visit.

I feel like I'm back in school

sort of interesting , my son is being trained right now buy a guy who works for a temp agency and has been there 6 months my son was hired on full time permanent.

the guy training him knows why he is a temp , Felon in his mid 20s he knows he messed up at life so places want his work but not his risk he can be let go any minute they want because he is a temp.

There ones out jail there before, work one cpl weeks ago who say in jail on weekends , don't see him nomore, quit probly

How do you know it's pee . Did you taste it ? Maybe her hidden flask is leaking......lol

How does that work if a temp wants to keep working there? Why isnt coonman getting pay raises and better positions since hes been there 4 years?

The way I look at it right now its called a big opportunity if you a reliable and hard worker. As for a raise the employers need to compensate the people that work hard and and there every day. They spend money training new employees and then it cost them when they dont show up or put in a good days work. Use that to your advantage and tell them you want a raise or walk. As far as temporary work agency's they take a cut of your pay for finding you a job every hour you work. Your like a sub employee not a good deal. If you stick with them or dont get paid what your worth talk to management or walk. There are so many jobs open right now its an opportunity not a time to complain or whine.

I wish Dave had somebody there that could advocate on his behalf.

You need some chamber pots.

Cool , good to hear that a least one jailbird got a job.

Pay raise's for temp's don't come from the employer they work for, they come from the temp agency that sends the temp out.

Coonman wants a raise he needs to put pressure on the agency he is working under, not to the company he is working "AT"

Coonman has worked there for 4 years it's very plain to see he is not strong enough to advocate for him self to the agency,
thats not on the company, they will keep some one there as long as they can afford them if they feel they can deal with any complaints to the companies satisfaction and just keep the person off their back until another problem shows up.

It's much easier and cheaper to have a experienced temp train another new person than have a experienced higher paid person
take the time to do the same thing, when dealing in temps, it is never about loyalty, it is always about cost to have them.

Coonman has a proven tested record of doing what he has been asked with not enough complaint to warrant letting him go,
this is usually always brought on by the temp wanting to stay because of circumstances of their own demise.

Very well stated by Coonman over the years of reading his posts, you cannot get ahead or be better at a PITA job if you don't have the structure in your personality to change it, you live it until you find an out, his is when he turns 62 !!

Temp agencies are popular as they offer workers and businesses several options from which they can choose to utilize. Yes return to the worker is less in many cases but for many businesses and especially in times like we have now with supply issues, hold ups and vulnerable markets having employees that you don't need or want keep during slow times cuts cost, plus the firms HR office does not need to invest near the time and monies in interviewing, etc. the lower end or more expendable work force. They don't need to worry about Health insurance or other perks as well. From the worker aspect you can work at many different firms and several different jobs, shifts etc. You can find the type of job that fits your needs the best and also one can find that there can be a really big difference between work places and the type and amount of work and flexibility that is out there and in many cases not great differences in compensation packages.
I also know several professional persons who work as independent contractors (sort of the professional end of temp) as they like the independence, the ability to set their own schedules and rates to a certain extent and also some can have multiple clients at one time.

Bryce

Because he works for a temp agency that contracts his hours, not for the company works at. The temp agency makes half his dollar wage on him. For example, in he makes $14 at the machine company, the temp agency gets $21 and pays Dave his wage. That way Sedona or whoever the temp agency don't pay benefits or the company he works for.

I hired temp workers. Some were good workers, I even offered one a job. Turned me down, didn't want permanent work. Earn just enough to party till he was broke then do it all over again.

what a waste of a life.

I can't imagine them pay $21 hr for temp at that place, I bet $ hr more , I get $15, they dont pay squat , what do is worth $21 hr me

Be nice work cpl more weeks an go beaver trap for cpl weeks an start a new job or be done, unfortunately we'll always need money, it just sucks when ruin ur day in morning an work death , ya full time somewhere at decent job like mention many times be way go, not going get much ins or deal on it when pt , nothing like this an docter appt come up an going be make more as time start look more Health if wanna live be older

Dave...STOP, please. You are the only person I can ever recall that has lasted as long as you have at part time job and then continually gripes about it. You've posted this same kind of rhetoric more times than most of us care to remember and it always winds its way back to you thinking the place (where you freely chose to stay at as a PART TIME employee) is some kind of a dump or "dreaded hole in ground". You are the one making the choice to stay at these part time jobs that you hate. So stop complaining about the situation you have put yourself in.

Think about it....who are the smart ones, the people that hire on as a part time worker, then move on after a short period of time? Or, is it the person who choses to stay as a P/T worker for life then gripes about it?

The temp agency that pays you gets paid by your workplace. If you get $15, they are getting paid $20 or more per hour from your boss. That is how the temp agency works as my wife hires them from Sedona when they get swamped. They are contracted for certain number of hours and can't hire that person fulltime until after 500 hours if they are a good worker. After 4 years, why don't your company hire you fulltime at $17 and save money??????

Dave, The temp agency is making at least $5/hr from the company you work at.

You say you make $15/hr. At a bare minimum they are paying the temp agency $20/hr. Probably closer to $21-$23/hr.

Companies do this because
1) they only have to submit your hours worked to the temp agency. The temp agency does the figuring out of your wages.
2) the company in a lot of instances is not responsible for any workmans comp insurance. That is on the temp agency to pay for that.
3) The company has very little to do with the hiring process. They lose someone, they just call the agency to send someone new.
4) generally speaking working through a temp agency you can't collect unemployment. So there's another insurance/tax they don't have to pay out.

You said something about time cards costing $70. Those cards at most cost $10 including the programming of them if they're electronic.

I'm not sure about temp agencies in Iowa, but here most places that hire people through them use them as a probationary period before seeing if they want to hire them on to the actual company. Generally it's about 90 days. The one company I worked at would usually review temp employees at 30-60- and then at 90 days. The 30-60 day reviews they would tell the temp what they needed to work on to be hired on. They would then at 90 days decide if they wanted to keep them a temp for a little longer, hire them on, or get rid of them.

Same goes for the temps. People will go through them to learn their options. They'll go to a place and decide after a week or so they don't want to work at the company, and they'll ask the agency to send them somewhere else. The older people get the more they use that option.

Some use temp agencies to find them a job knowing full well they're only going to be there long enough to get enough money for their next couple fixes. The companies know this. It's no skin off their backs. All they have to do is call and get a new temp sent over.

Also people on SSI/SSA/SSD use them because it's much easier to pick what hours or shifts you want to work. The temp agency tells the company "Hey I got Joe here. He can only work 7 am - 11 am these days." The company then says ok or no depending on their needs.


I worked at a hunting lodge through a temp agency. I asked the guy out of curiosity one day what he paid the temp agency for me to work there. He said he paid $15/hr for me. I only made $10/hr from the agency. I asked him why. He said all I have to do is sign your time slip and fax it over. They do everything else. He's the one that told me he doesn't have to pay the workmans comp insurance. He didn't need to hire an accountant to do payroll, or end of year tax forms. All that was handled by the agency. He said he figured with the 10 employees he had there it saved him about $20,000 - $30,000 a year in insurance and other fees even having to pay an extra $5/hr/employee.

Very good information here that I never knew about Temp Services. It seems to me they arent making a lot after paying all they are involved with paying. Workmens comp for me was 50 percent back in the day.

Another reason they go with temp agency is, if the worker is lazy or any other reason. Your boss tells temp agency that worker never comes back to this job. Don't even have to fire anyone. The one I know about in Iowa, you cannot hire them at all until the contract with the temp agency is up. That one was 500 hours, no time limit.

All the flat surfaces in the building have holes in them to allow down flow of air. If she goes on the floor it will just go downstairs to the chem floor. Much rather her do that instead of the chair puddles....or open chamber pots.

It's a windowless building with massive machines running 24/7. We wear full body suits to contain hair and particles of skin. The suits are not waterproof tho.

I have hard time belive the temp place is get $21 hr, if so, there not make much money u say ? Correction, there make all money an do next to just about nothing for it, I am make squat, about $12 bucks hr after tax an gas get work, I never had injury at work report ,
, Went docter twice an I pay for it an I know it was from work , noway to prove, u got have blood , I been told for proof, temp agency , I have not talk them in months except a cpl weeks ago when miss 3 day work from sick , they don't do nothing except sit chair an collect the big bucks an let worker earn it, they sell labor, I heard sedonna sell workers , more like slavery agency , time cards cost $30 for 2 plus arm protected I hate bad, every time I wash I have a problem an loose temper when take out wash an keep from dryer, filthy , plus a orange vest that supposed vve $10 also , wear if new temp , they take out check if not return , I still have it lay in back pickup , I used it as rag bfore , that stuff burn up good with all oil absorbs, so would cloths wear work , oil rags

You could always show them and go get a full time job somewhere else right?

I started a temporary job in 1979 and I quit it in 2018.

What I want to know, is why did Coonman 220 take a Temp job, instead getting a FULL TIME JOB!!!!!!

The big mistake, was taking that Temp job .

When did 4 years ago , I quit another temp job after 7 months work, right before trap season an had another job line up to start but it didn't turn out be much an lay off after 1 month

All temp place does for employee is sign bunch papers, about 10-15 work an interview talk u, that it , so there make lots money if charge $8 hr profit on u

Idk anymore but definately no future in such of many places like that , lot places u go Thru temp place get on, all same , not worth a hoot , I feel like got run over by steam rollar yet from yesterday morning , did lot work today , retire this summer an work pt an have more time, retirement bad, death sentence, not right away but health probly start in cpl yrs, not much can do about time, I guess fail life of crap jobs , all I can say is when younger try get educated enough so don't end up in some dead end factory job an waste ur short life on worthless jobs like me

All the temps I have hired have a contract where as all the money is stated so there is no mystery to a temp worker costing $25 and hour because it's all spelled out.

Workers here are hard to come by. Come over here. Everybody is looking for help. The last three guys I hire worked a total of two weeks for all three combined.

The temp-agencies here let you hire people directly after they have worked for you for a certain amount of time.

I see no advantage to hiring temp agencies any more. I still had to interview every temp person I hired. After being guaranteed each person was drug free and had no record I started checking the ones I liked out and found out the temp agency I was using was not very truthful.

Lots of trade jobs are open here where a person can make a good wage and make enough for insurance and retirement to boot.

There are a lot of decent factory employers out thee that pay enough wage to get ahead in life. Millions of people raise a family on those type jobs.

Younger single with no kids. You should be financially comfortable to well off with out trying all that hard.

You retire next summer you will go broke. The math doesn't work out any other way. 7.5 percent inflation destroys a fixed income

Camso
Bodine Electric
Crown Holdings
Hormel
Anderson Window factory. (Stinks up that side of Dubuque) I wouldn't want to work there, the odor would/does give me a headache.
Bimbo Bakeries
Duluth Clothing warehouse
There are a lot of other ones that are hiring in your area too.

I don't know of anyone here that wishes you bad luck but you have to help yourself too. I don't know why you're more worried about trapping than making a living. It looks like you know your retirement isn't going to be enjoyable and you won't have medical insurance along with a bad knee. You called your retirement a death sentence, what a crappy outlook, maybe you should work a little longer. Sounds like you know you should. You'll likely have to work full time though. Get a job with insurance and get yourself healthy.

It's entirely your decision. My thoughts on this don't matter. it's your life and I sincerely wish you the best.

Stop your whining and just get a full time job. Lots of them out there.

Don't forget all the ones in Peosta, Farley and Dyersville that are just as close with little traffic. Went to Dubuque last Friday and their are signs hiring everywhere, IF one WANTS a real job........

Well they provided you a service, you accepted it. They have to pay taxes and buy clothes, go to doctors etc.

When we are dealing with 3-5% UE and begging for more workers we are going to see much more turn over and transition. Who benefits the most from turn over? At this point with all the backlogs it is lower level worker positions who can sort through the maze to find better jobs or better working conditions. There may well be many workers who will stay temps and work say 30-40 weeks per year so they can do other things. If they find the right vocations they can do that well into their 70s if need be and not worry about how to adjust to full retirement Many employers will gladly pay much higher rates for less hours if they can get the production they need.

Bryce

Yes. This post is just sad. I feel for the guy. He deserves better

Yes Sir...I just retired from a factory job after 36 years.at 55 years old ...walked out with a couple million in profit sharing. Not all factory jobs are crap.

Ya probly union there an pension , I work guy 4 yrs ago that 59.an retire Full pension, some these factories are expect lot u, pass drug test, show up work an do job, yet still not good enough for employer, I hear some factories can't find hardly any that pass drug test , vaccum cleaner about shot at 1 job an no clean supplies I ask about weeks ago many times to superviser, I email he an heard nothing , I think co I work for get kick backs if don't buy nothing for at work or superviser to lazy an don't care or wanna bother to submit a order, next week clean supplies well be needed an I should pay for it with my money , for corp that has millions ? Not sure what should do , say ppl where I work that can't clean toilets because superviser won't send toilet bowl cleaner after ask 6 times an lies an say order for weeks ? There noway I buy a vaccum cleaner for at work , I start think new superviser a scam artist , say get receipt on item an I come out where u at an reimburse , get receipt an last 4 numbers of debit card an scam ? I have see her once since start last summer an had yet to send 1 thing to where I work

Not sure what should do or complain to if superviser lies an no send things I need work, I not buy it, nowsy I sweep 25 plus big mats with 2 foot dust pan broom, don't work

Tough choice

If clean supplies don't come in few days, try talk someone else higher up in command in company somewhere , the problem is, noone except that hr, other superviser , that it, no pH no an anyone else say I got talk superviser, so what do ? this was problem with other superviser but not as bad ,maybe this is company policy to be real cheap an buy nothing , the price there clean contract is unknowen but I sure it high, what they supply an give me is a joke , a cpl spray bottles of chemicals u mix with water, 99.9 per cent water , the chemical a half gallon it mix with water, it take 5 years to use a half gallon concentrate chemical, a mop a 2 ft broom an dust pan , a junk worn out ancient vaccum cleaner, a brand new one is only $290. , yet that to expensive for them ? The company not allow use bleach, as far as I concerned, u might as well take water bottle an spray around clean, , I don't think much it ,They make all money , employees make squat , I think there co kick backs an bonus on clean acct , probly to cheap to buy something an see if employee do it , if keep blow u off , time to get rough an talk to someone else

Nothing tough about it.

Quit that job as well.

I almost coonman lived up here,. I'd find him 20 factory that would change his out look on things. If they didn't well then it wouldn't be the companies fault.

He has not changed all these years why would he do so for one more ?

He has chosen his path but just needs to vent about walking on it, nothing more can be done for him
unless he chose's to do so.

You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make them drink !

Be careful Dave. I think you will be the someone who gets a "rough talk" when you are fired for accusing the company you work at or for, for being involved in kick backs. You may not like the jobs you work at, but I'd suggest you be very careful about making statements like you are. The look for a new job may be on your horizon quicker than you are ready for it to be.

I've been trying to ignore your whining about life Coonman, but your statement about making bad choices needs addressed.

We've all made some bad choices in life, I know I did. Folks here have been giving you solid advice about getting a job on your own, only for you to skip to a different subject which is very rude to say the least. Take their advice and change it!

Why do you keep making new threads about your problems when you don't take one ounce of the advice?

Second,,, if what you claim about your financial situation is correct, take the advice of those saying you absolutely cannot afford to take early retirement. It looks good while you can draw and still work, but look at what you'll have when you can't work to supplement it. Once you sign the papers, there's no do over, you're stuck with that amount for the rest of your life.

So good luck, we can't change your situation, only you can.

Got appt for blood pressure an checkup stuff docter Fri for while, now since Monday at heavy lift did, feel like really strain some stomach muscles an gonna bring it up Friday if still sore, be my luck I got hernia , already had 1, pick up hundreds of hubs, fenders that go around wheel on auto irrigation water system u see in big flat fields that set timer to move along an water crops, these things suck!! Very heavy an pick up an make part press an punch out degree an stack pallets , did like 384 in 5 hrs, not enough , that insufficient an of course there is nothing in plant u could pick up or do to be injure, that stuff worth $25 hr to me , not 10 cents a hub , I heard they sell for $700 a hub , total profit nearly

Then start your own company if you think it's all gravy.

You agreed to work there so the fault is on you. We've got new hires makin 6 figures. Granted they are suckin up the overtime. Still have a hard time fillin all the openings.

By the way, it's a dirty nasty factory job.

Your problem is, you aren’t worth that to them

Well, at least you didn't ignore any of the comments or any advice given. It's nice to see you're getting better at paying attention.

I agree. How's the trapping vechile doing, Dave?

wow what kind of factory and how they making 100k?

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Yes Sir...I just retired from a factory job after 36 years.at 55 years old ...walked out with a couple million in profit sharing. Not all factory jobs are crap.
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wow, good for you!

Overtime!


Too bad, Dave doesn’t like working full-time, let alone overtime.

Wow

I used get kick out when turn lites out on overtime but nomore , long ago , the job got not worth work overtime, the other job the clean stuff finally supposed be come for sure, I can barely stand it somedays till noon, lately I really have problem work there afternoon, I dread the hr bfore work start , sometimes get sick think it , only way made Millon factory is in office , higher up job , idk about office ppl

Coonman, my dad is 73, can't spend the money he has and still works more hours a year than you.

Figure it out.

I have friends that have worked at Polaris for 30 years. If they saved all the stock they got in yearly bonus, the are worth 7 figures.

Figure it out

When a man is broke any overtime is worth it

Figure it out

Ya can't go back in a time machine an start over, u are right for sure though

No, one can not. What one can do is make life changes. You've given up. You still have time.

Figure it out

Steel mill, Cleveland Cliffs. Formerly AK Steel.

Coonman, I don't know if this will help or not. Probably not. Take charge of your finances and make what little you make work for you. Build wealth by investing a part of your paycheck in Vanguard Index funds. In time you will be a very happy man. You can still do your trapping as a hobby. That is if gas prices don't get too high you can't afford to drive to your trap sites. Are you happy with our sewer line- cesspool leadership we have in Washington?

Remember everyone, Dave doesn’t actually want advice. He is just looking to complain and fuss and whine. He isn’t trying to change his living conditions or quality of life. Just looking to get a little complaining off his shoulders.



Dang Dave, that sure is tough on you. Sure hope it all turns out, but they do seem to be after you and only you. You’re the only one who has any problems. So terrible!

How’s your vechile doing? Running alright?

How about your leaky gloves and boots?

Found a trap that works yet for beaver?

Gonna set for front foot?

Well anyhow if manage to last till mid July there, SS is pretty tempting

On the temptation scale, where does getting a full time job with benefits like health and dental rank?

Ya the idea was to get SS an work pt nite job an maybe colony brands a little in busy season , or elsewhere , I don't know yet, it mention that places that hire temps an most temps are bottom Barrel material , true, thought was gonna get hit today no reason, something with this state an ppl in it sone places I never understand sone jacks around, or west dbq, found a piece metal , actually 2 pieces in tire go sideways an down on inner side tire near top, I don't think leak as pull out, tons that crap parklot an pick up work on shoe treads with no locker because a temp , ya that right, anyplace where uba temp for over 4 years, because pt, not good place to be , maybe try hang in 5 more months

I guess high turnover because dirty an ruin cloths, I know one thing, if I track piece metal in waterbed or on foot at home or housecats eat it or get stuck with small piece it come of shoe treads, not gonna be to happy an not go in nomore, I rember a brand new t shirt an oil come squirt off top machine until warm up an splattered oil , no sense buy or wear anything good

If the job sucks as bad as you say I would've stopped going in a long time ago. There are plenty of other jobs right down by you.
BTW a new T-shirt cost like $4 bucks.
What about Hormel or that place called Rousselot or however it's spelled? They're hiring.

He won't do it. Don't waste your time.

If you get a good job, they pay you well, buy you work clothes and boots. And lunch occasionally. Not a high turnover rate in my line of work. Then you could buy a new truck, new waders, still have time to trap, and not worry so much about getting crushed by some short timer that’s there to fund their next 30 pack and carton of smokes. Gotta want it though. Positive thoughts lead to positive actions. .

I did apply rouselot , long ago pay over $20, I don't think hire on easy there, Hormel is idea if both jobs go , I know some work there an dont work hard an say not hard, what I be worried about is get along co workers , the biggest thing, scared off, new t shirt for good one 2xl dickeys , just under $14 Walmart , I not buy shirts to get ruin in 1 day there, I had new work boots for year an didn't wanna ruin them there but recently start use , black with grease oil

You can buy a 10 pack of HANES Tee Shirts for $26.48. What are you going to do, if Social Security in a few years, gets cut in Half ? Forget about going on Social Security. Go to a Trade School , and get yourself a real education; in a skill that will earn you good Money. There is no reason you can't work another 20 to 30 years. Heck, go to Truck driving School, and get your CDL.

Like you get along with your co-workers where you are now? You already hate and/or are scared of your current co-workers so how could new ones be any worse?

So you know people who work at Hormel who say it's not hard but yet you stay where you're at to complain?? You never know what your co workers are going to be like no matter where you go and you don't like the ones you have now so you'd be out nothing by taking the chance.
I don't know why you're paying $14.00 for a Dickies T-shirt when you can get 5 that do the same thing as they do. Right now Wal Mart is clearance selling a lot of clothes. I didn't know you had to have the name brand prestige. That's your mistake paying for the name especially if you've got a dirty job. Here's another fact, no one cares what brand of shirts you wear.
BTW they've got boots on sale too, not sure about steel toes if you require them but regular hunting boots are marked down to $15.00 a pair from the normal price of $40 to $60. I'm a clearance shopper and have enough shirts and boots here to last me years and I paid very little for them.
The job market has changed, just because you applied at Rousselot long ago doesn't mean they won't give you an interview now. You've got to make that decision no one else.

Must be off brand cheap t shirt, I have never seen Dickies that cheap , Dickies pocket t, are thicker not thin stuff an more durable, in the xxl sizes, a cpl bucks more , used be around $10 tax an by now got be $14, bought one year ago close $13, oftentimes the xxl size is gone

Not suppose make SS worse , recently news, it went up $100 this year

Walmart has them, and they aren't $14, how much are your taxes there?

Taxes aren't more that 6% in IA that I know of. Have you looked at Target? Hanes has a Beefy T Shirt for around $7 - $8.

T shirt prices are the least of his problems

Well I found out about what happen shop guy nite job I post on long ago with loud music an say scared he violent , him an another employee let go, fighting , I guess one got pick up ambulance , beat up bad , try kill each other, they have had at least 2 big fights there in less year

I'm going to have to defend Coonman on this point.
For a couple of years I bought Costco T shirts and socks, I'm lucky to get six months out of the sock before wearing holes in them, and their T shirts start to fall apart in less than a year. I'm sure it is a case of planned obsolescence. I prefer to buy better quality clothing and have it last.

Same thing happen me to, bldg mgr from Florida I talk about, he fired all sorts , could get fire no reason. Tomma nite, for not close gate humanly impossible close that he phoney about an say closable, for no reason at all he fire me

If you have managers that are willfully firing workers for what you determine to be simple or not legit reasons, you will continue to have to work with the high turnover of staff and no wonder they leave after a pay check or two. Who needs to work in areas with poor or spiteful managment.

Bryce

If he does fire you Dave, he might be doing you a favor. Not all things that happen in life are bad.

Yet you won't go apply for another job. There's plenty down there get looking.