They probably have dozens of FBI " agents" on standby to start inciting violence during this protest to give the government goons a reason to put their foot down.
They probably have dozens of FBI " agents" on standby to start inciting violence during this protest to give the government goons a reason to put their foot down.
The protesters should give anybody starting violence a club up side the head, fbi or not.
Any thing left coast?? Like I have said before my vote doesn't count here, but my dollar still does -- might be time to cast a few votes for some good solid people for a change.
Indiana will support the truckers. If they decide to go north from here around the lake, Illinois into Chicago...or Michigan into Itch Whitmer territory....that will get them the most resistance
They probably have dozens of FBI " agents" on standby to start inciting violence during this protest to give the government goons a reason to put their foot down.
Truckstops and lots of parking just east of Indy at Spiceland on I70. The guys coming off the north west coast are going to take 80 to Gary IN then I65 down to Indianapolis and 70 to Spiceland. It will be a rendezvous point.
They are doing it wrong. Instead of going to all those big cities to protest they should just stay out of them completely for 10 days or so. They would get a lot more accomplished once Peelousy runs out of Botox and sniffy out of ice cream. Just stay home and watch those idiots fall over each other in DC.
George Washington in his early years came thru swpa with some troops looking to engage the french. He built a nice fort out in an open field. The french not being inexperienced idiots, surrounded the fort built in the open field.
I don't think a Covid shot has much to do with it now. Maybe in the beginning, but now it is taken on a bigger issue. Possibly racism. Some people may just want to be rebels and pick a fight. Some people say no to everything, even their health.
I don't think a Covid shot has much to do with it now. Maybe in the beginning, but now it is taken on a bigger issue. Possibly racism. Some people may just want to be rebels and pick a fight. Some people say no to everything, even their health.
They are doing it wrong. Instead of going to all those big cities to protest they should just stay out of them completely for 10 days or so. They would get a lot more accomplished once Peelousy runs out of Botox and sniffy out of ice cream. Just stay home and watch those idiots fall over each other in DC.
That would be my advice as well. Not sure what a few thousand trucks can accomplish going to DC. In the end, if Gubmint leaders chose to use them, resources of the Gubmint will always prevail. On the other hand, if a few hundred thousand truckers refuse to make deliveries into blue coastal areas and deep blue cities........just disappear........no pickups......no deliveries........no nothing........things get dicey in a hurry. Save the fuel....save the expense......save the confrontations. Just park trucks where they are and chill. One snowstorm or a pipeline not pumping has already set off alarms and whistles and brought them to their knees. Imagine what a general trucker strike would do to both blue coasts.
As a lobbyest once told us.......now and then you have to put a choke chain on those old dogs to remind them who is boss. They (old dogs) ought to know better.
But before all that, you have to have a cause and objective the general public will support and get behind. Otherwise, protestors are the bad guys.
Buddy of mine came over yesterday. Had two bobcats to skin. Was afraid he would screw it up. I am not able to pull yet but told him I would do the cutting and he could pull. So while we are catching up as I hadn't talked to him since fall he mentions his grandmother died. Got the second covid shot. Made her sick like it does a lot of people only she didn't recover. Coincidence? Maybe. Who knows. WEhen it comes to gene therapy, even when called a vaccine, I think its reasonable for people to make their own choices. especially since this gene therapy isn't keeping anyone from still carrying and transmitting the virus. It only MAYBE protects the person receiving it.
This thing has gone way past the virus. Its about the politicritters screwing the people over left right and center and just out to control the masses, no matter how. Sooner or later things will get messy, when the critter that think are in charge find out that they are not.
They are doing it wrong. Instead of going to all those big cities to protest they should just stay out of them completely for 10 days or so. They would get a lot more accomplished once Peelousy runs out of Botox and sniffy out of ice cream. Just stay home and watch those idiots fall over each other in DC.
That would be my advice as well. Not sure what a few thousand trucks can accomplish going to DC. In the end, if Gubmint leaders chose to use them, resources of the Gubmint will always prevail. On the other hand, if a few hundred thousand truckers refuse to make deliveries into blue coastal areas and deep blue cities........just disappear........no pickups......no deliveries........no nothing........things get dicey in a hurry. Save the fuel....save the expense......save the confrontations. Just park trucks where they are and chill. One snowstorm or a pipeline not pumping has already set off alarms and whistles and brought them to their knees. Imagine what a general trucker strike would do to both blue coasts.
As a lobbyest once told us.......now and then you have to put a choke chain on those old dogs to remind them who is boss. They (old dogs) ought to know better.
But before all that, you have to have a cause and objective the general public will support and get behind. Otherwise, protestors are the bad guys.
The visual of a few thousand trucks is a powerful image. If the truckers just stayed home, the leftist media would ignore the fact there was a boycott at all.
I don't think a Covid shot has much to do with it now. Maybe in the beginning, but now it is taken on a bigger issue. Possibly racism. Some people may just want to be rebels and pick a fight. Some people say no to everything, even their health.
That's not what Trudeu said in the court room. It's on video.
I don't think a Covid shot has much to do with it now. Maybe in the beginning, but now it is taken on a bigger issue. Possibly racism. Some people may just want to be rebels and pick a fight. Some people say no to everything, even their health.
Yes, some people like the choice to protect their own health.
Warrior, they force you to park but the boneheads still don't sleep. No matter the occupation there is always a few. Legislators like to think they can legislate people into being responsible. The only result is the responsible majority end up penalized for the actions of a few boneheads. The boneheads just keep on being boneheads.
Warrior, they force you to park but the boneheads still don't sleep. No matter the occupation there is always a few. Legislators like to think they can legislate people into being responsible. The only result is the responsible majority end up penalized for the actions of a few boneheads. The boneheads just keep on being boneheads.
I don't think a Covid shot has much to do with it now. Maybe in the beginning, but now it is taken on a bigger issue. Possibly racism. Some people may just want to be rebels and pick a fight. Some people say no to everything, even their health.
Yes, some people like the choice to protect their own health.
I don't think a Covid shot has much to do with it now. Maybe in the beginning, but now it is taken on a bigger issue. Possibly racism. Some people may just want to be rebels and pick a fight. Some people say no to everything, even their health.
Was your obesity caused by racism? Were you saying no to your own health when you chose to take in more calories than your body needed to maintain a healthy weight? I don’t want to be a rebel. I’m just sick and tired of bureaucrats and politicians who think they have a right to control my life from cradle to grave.
Your racism comment shows the extent you are controlled.
The visual of a few thousand trucks is a powerful image. If the truckers just stayed home, the leftist media would ignore the fact there was a boycott at all.
Keith
Keep the US Foods, Sysco and other food delivery trucks out of DC for the week and the media won’t be ignoring things long. lol
Seems like a copycat excuse to burn diesel. I am still waiting for someone to tell me what the point of this might be. As mentioned above, truckers have no vaccine mandate in the U.S.
You can see there are people who hate Trump so bad, they think whatever the guy is doing is good. It's highly evident among the Trapperman democrats. Don't feed the trolls.
Danny would you join if you were still trucking? Any trucker T-man members here going to join in?
I don't think a Covid shot has much to do with it now. Maybe in the beginning, but now it is taken on a bigger issue. Possibly racism. Some people may just want to be rebels and pick a fight. Some people say no to everything, even their health.
Racism. Care to explain this theory? I really gotta hear this one.
Seems like a copycat excuse to burn diesel. I am still waiting for someone to tell me what the point of this might be. As mentioned above, truckers have no vaccine mandate in the U.S.
Busted my ankle and leg about a month ago ADC or I would go. There are still schools making kids wear masks. How long till government forces businesses to close again then prints money and hands it out like Santa Claus tossing candy in a Christmas parade?
We should have stood up two years ago.
I have been ignoring "mandatory masks" and was not going to get the shot even before the court struck it down. As it is you can not cross our border legally, in either direction, with out a vaccine.
My mask ought to say pretty clearly what I thought and still think of it all
I don't think a Covid shot has much to do with it now. Maybe in the beginning, but now it is taken on a bigger issue. Possibly racism. Some people may just want to be rebels and pick a fight. Some people say no to everything, even their health.
Racism? What are you even talking about?!? What does race have to do with government overregulation?
Millions of people say no to their health every day. Just look at how much money fast food restaurants bring in every day. America has the highest obesity rate in the whole world... so obviously most Americans aren't too concerned about their health. Look at the amounts of alcohol and tobacco sold in this country. Not to mention illegal drugs. That said, people should have a right to make those decisions. Should we ban Big Macs and sugary soft drinks? If people choose not to trust a vaccine that has not been being produced long enough for anyone to have any idea of what any long term affects there may be... well, maybe those people just might be the ones saying YES to their health.
When Biden and Trudeau use race as a means of inciting their base, it's time for them to go. You don't falsely vilify half the population for political gain.
When Biden and Trudeau use race as a means of inciting their base, it's time for them to go. You don't falsely vilify half the population for political gain.
the democrats have been doing that for years. Its nothing new. Proud to be a deplorable caveman
When Biden and Trudeau use race as a means of inciting their base, it's time for them to go. You don't falsely vilify half the population for political gain.
I don’t know if it is scary that half the population can be ginned up by them or exciting.
When Biden and Trudeau use race as a means of inciting their base, it's time for them to go. You don't falsely vilify half the population for political gain.
the democrats have been doing that for years. Its nothing new. Proud to be a deplorable caveman
They have but we've never seen a sitting president stoop to such a low. It's beyond despicable and he needs to go.
I work in the Forest Industry which is heavily dependent on the trucking industry . Protest or not it has become harder and harder to get Forest Products hauled to market. Mill Quotas are not being met and log landings are backed up. Truckers are already going broke. High fuel costs , lack of drivers, and gov. Regulations are the bigger problem. That’s what they should be protesting, not these authoritarian mask and vax mandates.
I work in the Forest Industry which is heavily dependent on the trucking industry . Protest or not it has become harder and harder to get Forest Products hauled to market. Mill Quotas are not being met and log landings are backed up. Truckers are already going broke. High fuel costs , lack of drivers, and gov. Regulations are the bigger problem. That’s what they should be protesting, not these authoritarian mask and vax mandates.
Seems like a copycat excuse to burn diesel. I am still waiting for someone to tell me what the point of this might be. As mentioned above, truckers have no vaccine mandate in the U.S.
Monkey see, monkey do.
Why would we tell you ? You're not on our side
Don't worry , you won't ever be called upon to help fight any government overreach
Seems like a copycat excuse to burn diesel. I am still waiting for someone to tell me what the point of this might be. As mentioned above, truckers have no vaccine mandate in the U.S.
Monkey see, monkey do.
The vaccine mandate opened people's eyes to rogue government in general. It's about time.
Seems like a copycat excuse to burn diesel. I am still waiting for someone to tell me what the point of this might be. As mentioned above, truckers have no vaccine mandate in the U.S.
Monkey see, monkey do.
Guys quit feeding this monkey. All he does is throw his (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) at you.
I work in the Forest Industry which is heavily dependent on the trucking industry . Protest or not it has become harder and harder to get Forest Products hauled to market. Mill Quotas are not being met and log landings are backed up. Truckers are already going broke. High fuel costs , lack of drivers, and gov. Regulations are the bigger problem. That’s what they should be protesting, not these authoritarian mask and vax mandates.
When Biden and Trudeau use race as a means of inciting their base, it's time for them to go. You don't falsely vilify half the population for political gain.
the democrats have been doing that for years. Its nothing new. Proud to be a deplorable caveman
Originally Posted by Posco
They have but we've never seen a sitting president stoop to such a low. It's beyond despicable and he needs to go.
obama was a master at using race to arouse his base. In my opinion, obama was the worst president of the United States. obama was in a position to deal a serious blow to racism in the US and instead chose to fan the flames of hate to a new, higher level. Instead of saying the inflammatory statement, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon.", just to incite the democrat base.
Squash, if you can't get your logs hauled its because your not paying enough. If you cant pay more then the mill isnt paying enough. If the mill can't pay more it's because the end user can not pay more. If the end user can't pay more its inflation, or depreciation of the dollar. The depreciation of the dollar is the result of government printing money. Money was printed to offset the ridiculousness of the virus mandates that put so many out of work and closed the doors of so many businesses.
the economy was really booming pre covid
I am just an uneducated driver but thats what it looks like out my windshield
Squash, if you can't get your logs hauled its because your not paying enough. If you cant pay more then the mill isnt paying enough. If the mill can't pay more it's because the end user can not pay more. If the end user can't pay more its inflation, or depreciation of the dollar. The depreciation of the dollar is the result of government printing money. Money was printed to offset the ridiculousness of the virus mandates that put so many out of work and closed the doors of so many businesses.
the economy was really booming pre covid
I am just an uneducated driver but thats what it looks like out my windshield
You are correct, I cannot pay more, so please tell me how I leverage the mills and the end users to pay more ? But don’t worry, Biden will tell us during his State of the Union address , that everything is fine, and half of the country will believe him, even some truckers.
Squash, if you can't get your logs hauled its because your not paying enough. If you cant pay more then the mill isnt paying enough. If the mill can't pay more it's because the end user can not pay more. If the end user can't pay more its inflation, or depreciation of the dollar. The depreciation of the dollar is the result of government printing money. Money was printed to offset the ridiculousness of the virus mandates that put so many out of work and closed the doors of so many businesses.
the economy was really booming pre covid
I am just an uneducated driver but thats what it looks like out my windshield
How is it that the view is so clear through the uneducated drivers windshield, but so distorted through the wwindows of the whitehouse?
Squash, if you can't get your logs hauled its because your not paying enough. If you cant pay more then the mill isnt paying enough. If the mill can't pay more it's because the end user can not pay more. If the end user can't pay more its inflation, or depreciation of the dollar. The depreciation of the dollar is the result of government printing money. Money was printed to offset the ridiculousness of the virus mandates that put so many out of work and closed the doors of so many businesses.
the economy was really booming pre covid
I am just an uneducated driver but thats what it looks like out my windshield
How is it that the view is so clear through the uneducated drivers windshield, but so distorted through the wwindows of the whitehouse?
Because they can't even begin to understand the way of life for common folk...or don't care.
obama was a master at using race to arouse his base. In my opinion, obama was the worst president of the United States. obama was in a position to deal a serious blow to racism in the US and instead chose to fan the flames of hate to a new, higher level. Instead of saying the inflammatory statement, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon.", just to incite the democrat base.
Keith
I don't think there's any doubt Obama set everything we're witnessing today in motion. Bernie Sanders was just some oddball kook from Vermont before Barry came along. This is what fundamental transformation looks like. Hopefully he'll hang one day.
Taking a little time out to Remind your elected representatives they are overstepping the authority granted them by the electorate and remind them who delivers everything is never a bad idea or waste of fuel.
it is how our Representative Republic is supposed to work.
this pandemic was milked for every dollar it could be , enough is enough , were not building back better were building some peoples bank accounts and if you think it is Average Joe citizen , it isn't.
even if it wasn't planned 3/13/2020 by 4/13/2020 there were sure plenty figuring out how to milk the crisis for everything they could , never let a good crisis go to waste
we have seen the current administration blaming truck drivers for shortages , while you can see a live stream of 50 trucks waiting at port of LA to pick up a load and none of the cranes are even moving.
many truckers got treated as diseased 2nd class citizens for the last 2 years in many ways and many places , no being allowed to use the restroom , eating every meal in your truck.
so taking a break and reminding those elected officials of their place is a good thing.
yup it might make for more shipping delays , or shortages , guess someone should have thought about that when the made everything just in time shipping , years ago , people have been warning about the dangers of it for more than a decade.
every time a crisis comes up suddenly there is an executive order by state or fed allowing truckers to drive beyond their normal hours , so is it safe or is it unsafe . if you make the argument it is unsafe 98% of the year then make suddenly safe by executive action when you need to stretch the labor force farther. hire more tuckers all the time or use the NG to move loads if it is that critical
I still think that it would make more of an impact if all truckers would just take a 2 week time out. Heck one week would bring the liberal run cities to a complete panic and melt down. Just unhitch the trailers where they are and drive the rig home and keep an eye on it so no one takes it. It will never happen but its a nice thought
I wasnt allowed to load at a chicken processing plant just south of Cullman AL years ago. Was supposed to pick up feather meal for a dog feed plant in Clinton OK. When I asked where the mens room was the secratary pointed out through the glass door at a blue plastic outhouse and said "the truckers bathroom is out there". I walked out that door and peed in the grass in full view of anybody looking out the door.
Have been refused to be allowed to load also because I wont hand over my driver license to be scanned into a computer. I have been told I couldn't unload for the same reason but that never actually happened. They just say dont ever come back. Was told that at the same business multiple times when delivering. Sometimes they really wont let you load. Not often.
I am still waiting for someone to tell me what the point of this might be.
I gotta agree that the vision, purpose, goal, and intended outcome of this convoy needs to be more clearly communicated. I'm not sure why they are doing it or what they hope to accomplish by it.
So, some truck drivers are upset... about what specifically and what do they want to be done about it?
I still think that it would make more of an impact if all truckers would just take a 2 week time out. Heck one week would bring the liberal run cities to a complete panic and melt down. Just unhitch the trailers where they are and drive the rig home and keep an eye on it so no one takes it. It will never happen but its a nice thought
things are already so far behind 2 more weeks , my point being people need to see them protesting to know it is happening however inconvenient that is , could it take place at truck stops just outside DC with a steady slow roll at 10mph down the streets of DC , it could but to have the desired effect it has to be seen.
I think we should have ALL stood up two years ago when business was being curtailed and we were told to wear masks. I fail to see how any of that made the death toll any less. Nothing but a dog and pony show.
I think we should have ALL stood up two years ago when business was being curtailed and we were told to wear masks. I fail to see how any of that made the death toll any less. Nothing but a dog and pony show.
Well back then, a lot of folks still thought that the government had their health and best interest in mind. Over time they found out that it was not so. To anyone that still believes that, I have a very nice and little used bridge in PA for sale.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: American freedom convoy - 02/22/2206:06 PM
All hospital employees take a road trip to D.C. and let administration run them for a couple of weeks. The nurses and such who wouldn't take the Jesus Jab have taken the real hit losing their jobs.
The first of the truckers should start arriving today.
This will get interesting I'm sure. I bet the current administration will have a few tricks up their sleeve.
Stay tuned.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: American freedom convoy - 02/23/2212:20 PM
The POTUS will not be meeting with anyone in this manner. So we shall see how the spin is spun. There's a scene in the movie Braveheart where John Wallace is gathering the men.... and then....
I'm with Scuba on this one. They are referring to the truckers as "terrorists"? Little do they know. If I'm in charge of politics, last group I can think of I'd want to get on the wrong side of would be the truckers. Not the sound of roaring engines.....honking horns, etc, but the sound of silence. No trucks deliveries of food and essentials to the big cities and things would get busy real quick.
The deal is they have to have a just cause.....and they have to stick together. They could bring DC to it's knees in a couple days if they stuck together. But likely as not......somebody would break.
The thing in Ottawa that became obvious. It was not a surprise that Truedope and his minions would order the police to break up the protest by having cops stampede those big draft horses through the crowd. It was a surprise there were cops that would actually do it.
The nameless rabble have the ability to take down a government......but they have to stick together to do it.
It was a surprise there were cops that would actually do it.
We might "Back the Blue" to our own peril. I was listening to a talk radio program a week or so back and a high ranking police officer said do not trust the rank & file cop to come to your aid in a time of crisis. His thinking was most high level LE were politicized and would do whatever they're told and their underlings would also follow the path of least resistence. They'll do what they're told. Many will come to their senses only after the country has gone up in flames.
It was a surprise there were cops that would actually do it.
We might "Back the Blue" to our own peril. I was listening to a talk radio program a week or so back and a high ranking police officer said do not trust the rank & file cop to come to your aid in a time of crisis. His thinking was most high level LE were politicized and would do whatever they're told and their underlings would also follow the path of least resistence. They'll do what they're told. Many will come to their senses only after the country has gone up in flames.
You nailed it, just like the Germans at the Nuremberg trails , who said they were just following orders.
Don't make the mistake Canada's truckers made, and stay too long . Better to remain mobile, even if in smaller segments throughout the cities, you will be seen and maybe even more so. They can re route a single convoy, but not so easy to re route numerous smaller ones.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: American freedom convoy - 02/23/2207:15 PM
Originally Posted by grampy
Don't make the mistake Canada's truckers made, and stay too long . Better to remain mobile, even if in smaller segments throughout the cities, you will be seen and maybe even more so. They can re route a single convoy, but not so easy to re route numerous smaller ones.
From what I understand there are several headed to D.C. I don't even think they plan on entering D.C. Just a moving "blockade" of sorts surrounding D.C.
I don't understand why it has to have a stated purpose. What if they're doing just because they can. Isn't that what FREEDOM's about. This is the USA......am I missing something?