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EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application

Posted By: KeithC

EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 05:38 PM

The EU Parliament has accepted the Ukraine application for membership and will likely fast track the Ukraine into EU. If the EU accepts the Ukraine, the 27 member nations are obligated to immediately go to war against Russia. Because of the NATO obligations to countries, who are in both organization, the US will then also be obligated to go to war with Russia.

This is how the new, one nation, world government takes an enormous step forward.

Putin is either a useful idiot or complicit. Indian News is saying biden is the driving force behind this.

Keith
Posted By: Fisher Man

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 05:55 PM

Just like WWII, we are getting dragged into this.. The US is a member of NATO, but not the EU Parliament.They are not the same.

Putin is a very, very dangerous man, but But Biden is the useless idiot and bears much of the blame for this war because of his weakness.
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 05:58 PM

When Biden cancelled Keystone and put his stamp of approval on Nord Strom pipeline, he opened the door for Putin to finance his invasion of Ukraine. Biden caused the US to buy petroleum from Russia. You will never hear that from the corrupt main stream media. As of today, Biden has yet to criticize or condemn the Russian pipeline. Germany is the first country to refuse to buy from Russia.

For those who criticized anyone who called Putin smart, there's one thing I know one thing about Putin. I don't know if he's very smart, but he's a lot smarter than Joe Biden.
Posted By: Foxpaw

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 06:03 PM

Buffet's got Joe covered.
Posted By: foxkidd44

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 06:18 PM

isn't the eu totally separate from nato?
Posted By: Flicker Shad

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 06:19 PM

I miss Trump
Posted By: gcs

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 06:29 PM

Yes, the EU is not NATO, it's an economic union, not a defense one
Posted By: white17

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by foxkidd44
isn't the eu totally separate from nato?



Yes.

Any acceptance of Ukraine into the EU will take years and must be approved by ALL 27 members. Not likely to ever happen
Posted By: Mike in A-town

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by foxkidd44
isn't the eu totally separate from nato?


Separate entities. However...

"The EU and NATO have 27 and 30 member states, respectively — of which 21 are members of both. Another four NATO members are EU applicants—Albania, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Turkey..."

You can be a member of one without joining the other... But for the most part they do seem to go hand in hand.

Mike
Posted By: KeithC

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by gcs
Yes, the EU is not NATO, it's an economic union, not a defense one


There is a mutual defense clause that EU members are bound by.

"MUTUAL DEFENCE CLAUSE

The Treaty of Lisbon strengthens the solidarity between EU countries in dealing with external threats by introducing a mutual defence clause (Article 42(7) of the Treaty on European Union). This clause provides that if an EU country is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other EU countries have an obligation to aid and assist it by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter.

This obligation of mutual defence is binding on all EU countries."

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/summary/glossary/mutual_defence.html

Keith
Posted By: Owen156

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Trapper7
When Biden cancelled Keystone and put his stamp of approval on Nord Strom pipeline, he opened the door for Putin to finance his invasion of Ukraine. Biden caused the US to buy petroleum from Russia. You will never hear that from the corrupt main stream media. As of today, Biden has yet to criticize or condemn the Russian pipeline. Germany is the first country to refuse to buy from Russia.

For those who criticized anyone who called Putin smart, there's one thing I know one thing about Putin. I don't know if he's very smart, but he's a lot smarter than Joe Biden.


A marshmellow is smarter than Brandon.
Posted By: Fisher Man

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 08:04 PM

Biden is dumber than a box of rocks.
Posted By: Wanna Be

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 08:18 PM

But we don’t have anymore mean Tweets.
Posted By: EdP

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 08:25 PM

Fox news says we are buying 595,000 barrels of crude from Russia each day. At $100/bbl, that almost $60 million we are sending to Russia daily.
Posted By: warrior

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by foxkidd44
isn't the eu totally separate from nato?


Yes
Posted By: KeithC

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by EdP
Fox news says we are buying 595,000 barrels of crude from Russia each day. At $100/bbl, that almost $60 million we are sending to Russia daily.


It costs $19.21 to produce a barrel of oil in Russia. Today, oil is at $106.00 a barrel. That's $86.79 a barrel profit for Russia for a total daily profit of $51,640,050, from just the US. That's an awful lot of money to purchase weapons to kill Ukranians with and to stock up with weapons, to kill Americans.

Keith
Posted By: Trapper7

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by EdP
Fox news says we are buying 595,000 barrels of crude from Russia each day. At $100/bbl, that almost $60 million we are sending to Russia daily.


It costs $19.21 to produce a barrel of oil in Russia. Today, oil is at $106.00 a barrel. That's $86.79 a barrel profit for Russia for a total daily profit of $51,640,050, from just the US. That's an awful lot of money to purchase weapons to kill Ukranians with and to stock up with weapons, to kill Americans.

Keith

That's the point I was making. We are funding the war for Russia thanks to Biden.
This is the same Biden that said no one can stand toe to toe with Putin like he can. crazy
Posted By: white17

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by EdP
Fox news says we are buying 595,000 barrels of crude from Russia each day. At $100/bbl, that almost $60 million we are sending to Russia daily.


It costs $19.21 to produce a barrel of oil in Russia. Today, oil is at $106.00 a barrel. That's $86.79 a barrel profit for Russia for a total daily profit of $51,640,050, from just the US. That's an awful lot of money to purchase weapons to kill Ukranians with and to stock up with weapons, to kill Americans.

Keith



I agree with your point but just because Brent hits 106 a bbl, doesn't mean that is what Russian oil is selling for. It is generally a high sulfur, "sour" crude that sells at much lower prices than Brent or WTI.

I suspect that if we stopped importing Russian crude, our domestic fuel prices would rise even faster
Posted By: danvee

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 09:23 PM

This is how misinformation spreads EU and NATO not the same but need to worry about Turkey and shutting off Russian vessels. Putin is backed into a corner now and no telling what he will do but it is very concerning. He is not a brilliant man and is off his rocker. He has lost face with most of the world and even in his own country, he did not think this one out. The only way I see him backing out is the world sacrificing a chunk of Ukraine and they will no give.
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Trapper7
When Biden cancelled Keystone and put his stamp of approval on Nord Strom pipeline, he opened the door for Putin to finance his invasion of Ukraine. Biden caused the US to buy petroleum from Russia. You will never hear that from the corrupt main stream media. As of today, Biden has yet to criticize or condemn the Russian pipeline. Germany is the first country to refuse to buy from Russia.

For those who criticized anyone who called Putin smart, there's one thing I know one thing about Putin. I don't know if he's very smart, but he's a lot smarter than Joe Biden.



Thats not saying much. A flat possum is smarter than sniffy
Posted By: KeithC

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by danvee
This is how misinformation spreads EU and NATO not the same but need to worry about Turkey and shutting off Russian vessels. Putin is backed into a corner now and no telling what he will do but it is very concerning. He is not a brilliant man and is off his rocker. He has lost face with most of the world and even in his own country, he did not think this one out. The only way I see him backing out is the world sacrificing a chunk of Ukraine and they will no give.


Not a single person on this thread said that the EU and Nato were the same organization, so how was any misinformation spread?

Keith
Posted By: Mike in A-town

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by danvee
This is how misinformation spreads EU and NATO not the same but need to worry about Turkey and shutting off Russian vessels. Putin is backed into a corner now and no telling what he will do but it is very concerning. He is not a brilliant man and is off his rocker. He has lost face with most of the world and even in his own country, he did not think this one out. The only way I see him backing out is the world sacrificing a chunk of Ukraine and they will no give.


"The reversion was formalised under the Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Turkish Straits of 20 July 1936. That convention, which is still in force, treats the straits as an international shipping lane save that Turkey retains the right to restrict the naval traffic of non–Black Sea states."

Since Russia borders on the Black Sea, Turkey is going to have a hard time denying their naval traffic through the Bosporus.

Misinformation indeed.

Mike
Posted By: Scuba1

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 10:35 PM

the takeaway from this is, that the Russian military is not all its cracked up to be. If they fast track the Ukraine membership into the EU, Putin is going to have way ore on his plate than he can chew. Another upside is that the US will not be involved. Thats a good thing with the idiot corrupter in chief right now. The last thing that is needed is for Brandon and his bunch of dolts to screw this up. So best to keep them out of it as much as possible and going with the EU membership route, thats a good way to do just that. After Afghanistan no one will want this guy on their team if they can help it.
Posted By: bblwi

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 10:54 PM

The EU has an economy combined about the size of the USA. The EU does a lot more trade, business and financial work with Russia then the USA does so we will see how this changes the playing field. The battle field is where we are at now and that time frame is at hand. Most of the sanctions and now enrollment in economic partnerships etc. will take time. What ever the outcome the game is changing in western and eastern Europe. I can certainly understand why Europe is searching hard and investing heavily in alternative energy at any cost. Being dependent upon a warmongering nation is not where one would like to be. We have also seen that the big Mid Eastern producing nations are not willing to ramp up production to take place of what Russia may or may not be able or willing to deliver. Good to see many democratic nations working closely on this issue. Hopefully less chance for significant mistakes and errors. Partnerships take time and patience but in this case good to see the unity.

Bryce
Posted By: Quartermastersir

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 11:41 PM

Not wanting to be chastised for spreading disinformation, but aren't there TWO Nord Stream pipelines? Nord stream one is pumping it runs from Russia to Germany which is why Germany didn't allow planes to fly over their airspace to Ukraine. Also why they were reluctant to approve the SWIFT sanctions.
Trump shut down construction on NS2 and Biden repealed whatever Trump did to allow construction to continue.
Is this factually correct?
Posted By: Diggerman

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by danvee
This is how misinformation spreads EU and NATO not the same but need to worry about Turkey and shutting off Russian vessels. Putin is backed into a corner now and no telling what he will do but it is very concerning. He is not a brilliant man and is off his rocker. He has lost face with most of the world and even in his own country, he did not think this one out. The only way I see him backing out is the world sacrificing a chunk of Ukraine and they will no give.

Which corner do you see him backed into? He does not care about the rest of the world, that has been very evident, I believe as far as world leaders go, his IQ would be in the top 10.
Posted By: Catch22

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/01/22 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by KeithC
The EU Parliament has accepted the Ukraine application for membership and will likely fast track the Ukraine into EU. If the EU accepts the Ukraine, the 27 member nations are obligated to immediately go to war against Russia. Because of the NATO obligations to countries, who are in both organization, the US will then also be obligated to go to war with Russia.

This is how the new, one nation, world government takes an enormous step forward.

Putin is either a useful idiot or complicit. Indian News is saying biden is the driving force behind this.

Keith

Hi Keith. He's complicit no doubt here. The US should give the big fat middle finger to NATO and WE should make a stand! Biden doesn't have a clue of what's happening.
Posted By: danny clifton

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/02/22 12:00 AM

I got no problem with socialists and communists killing each other. They stay on the other side of the sea I will stay right here.
Posted By: Kansas Cat

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/02/22 01:02 AM

White17, Don't confuse this discussion by interjecting facts. Did the US give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Posted By: Gary Benson

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/02/22 02:20 AM

Germans aye?
Posted By: Kansas Cat

Re: EU Parliament Accepts Ukraine Application - 03/02/22 02:39 AM

Just as factual as some of the drivel on this thread.
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