Waiting on a warrant

Had an anti make off with a cage and a fox. She thinks she can not answer the door but the popo have all day to wait her out.

She took a live fox inside her house? Hopefully she tries to pet it.

Hopefully she gets what she deserves

I am hoping she brought it inside and the fox is full of fleas.

Got my cage and fox back and she's going to jail.

Awesome outcome.

Please tell more when you can.
Rickey

That's great news to start the week off. Thanks for sharing

Outstanding, hope the moron learns a lesson.

x2

Win for the good guys!

Yeah when you get home we've got to hear the whole story.

You should insist they stick it to her in court.

Keith

BRAVO...! Way to go. We need a few more cases like this. This needs to get publicized on Face Book and News Media.

Garry-

Awesome.

stupid is forever....glad it turned out good for you.

Is she related to the cat on a leash guy ?

No, but I did meet his insignificant other and she came within an inch of getting cuffed and stuffed as well.

Why didn't you video this for us?

And those idiots will go on thinking what they did was actually good to "save the poor foxes." They think they are saviours.

I dont envy what you have to deal with Warrior...working around all those people in that heavily populated area.

I'm confused; is it a "he" or a "she"?

Excellent

She, a hysterical bawling and crying busy body she that wanted to get in my face.

The officer was professional but firm telling her all the charges she would be charged with if she didn't walk away.

Was it the cat walker?

Nope, but unbeknownst to me he set this all into motion and had me walking into a hornets nest this morning. He just didn't realize I kill hornets for a living.

Good on you!

Awesome news. Wished i came out with the same results for someone who helped themselves to 2 mb750's and 2 330 belisles.
Glad she got the message.

Sarge

We now know why your called Warrior!! lol. Good on ya!

Good to hear this!

Do not be surprised if they show up at your home..

Get with the program, proper pronouns!

You should hang that foxes tail from your kilt or the antenna on your work vehicle.

Keith

Best response ever!

Well done Warrior! This thread made my day!

Doubtful those kinds of people view going to jail for such a badge of honor, and most just get at worst a slap on the wrist so there’s no real deterrent


Glad it turned out good for you Warrior

Dang, we need to tag Casexx somehow!

Yes, got the fox back.

Okay here's the run down. Set this job up Saturday.

In this part of Atlanta, properly in the city of Sandy Springs.


In this cul-de-sac.


The complaint was a litter of red fox living under a deck. The shaded area along the fence to the south is the deck. It is maybe eight inches off the ground but not fully skirted with an access point at the single circle. Five total counting one adult were seen on home security camera. Both homeowners are in agreement on trapping and removal.


So first single circle is a positive cage set using a Kirk Dekalb double door advanced trap. The two circles are also cage set using cheaper havajunks along the beaten path they are using. Up the hill and somewhat behind the shruberry are four footholds at the X's along the path they use at the cul-de-sac fence. The two center are duke 1.5 in front of a dirt hole. The outer two are duke 2 flat sets.

Get up early Sunday and run them before church. I have mama in the southernmost flatset X with a pup in the northernmost flat plus one in the left fork of the trail where the dirt holes are. None in the cages. Later a get a text saying I've caught another one so I go back after church and have the dog fox in the right fork dirt hole.

This was when the cat walker confronted me about who hired me to kill them. This guy never left the sidewalk so no harm no foul but I took the opportunity as I always do to explain just who I am and why I've been hired to include the rules and regulations I operate under. I do try to go into detail of the why such as the mid altlantic rabies outbreak and the fact the neither I nor the state have the resources to test every fox and just why I'm required to euthanize them. I hate it but I've learned the weasel language and how to try to place nice with the idiots. Well he didn't like it one bit but I thought he half way heard reason even if he was pacing in his driveway two doors down when I left.

Well this morning I get a text that another has been caught. So I head that way, I was going anyway but its nice to have the client let me know. I just wish he had let me know all the details. So as I get there and am in his yard he calls to let me know that someone had emailed the HOA and reported a strange man wandering around the neighborhood with a gun killing foxes.

And here I need to freely admit that I knowingly and willfully violate Georgia trapping regulations by not carrying a 22lr and using it to dispatch. Sorry Swampwolf I'll gladly accept your state ticket vs a federal felony for some of the places I go.

So no firearms involved.

Well this ain't good I better get my fox and get out. I pass the first cage on the way to the footholds and I have a kit. It's contained so I move on to the right fork foothold where I have another kit. Quick check other footholds empty. So as I'm about to address the one in front of me when I'm challenged from the yard. It's a yuppie yoga pants wearing female. She's on the other side of the bushes from me and my cages are out of my direct line of sight. Again I go through the whole rigamorole of who and what and why but this one ain't buying none of it so I direct her to go to the DNR website and contact the special permits unit if she has any other questions as she storms off. So I go back to lassoing and dispatching my fox.
So fox in hand I proceed directly to the cage to load cage and kit but it's gone. I'm hot and spoiling for a fight but she's nowhere to be seen. I call 911 and get an officer dispatched.

Now let me digress for a moment. We are required to dispatch all rabies vector species relocation is not allowed. My only other option is fox pens and all of those are way south of me and I don't collect enough fox or coyote at any one time to make that drive worth the trouble to do live market. Besides I really really don't want to have to explain just what a running pen is to these kind of people so it is never mentioned as an option. And there is the whole dispatch on site vs off site thing. Well I've had more issues arising from live animal in cage while riding around the metro than I have from a dead something. Well there was that Jesus opossum that came back to life but that's a whole nother story, lol. Basically I've made a business decision that if I can keep the deed out of sight behind bushes or fences it much quicker to not draw attention and just get it done. But I guess it failed me this time.

So officer arrives confirms my credentials, walks the line with me as I show him exactly how it went down. The neighbor shows up with video footage and the their is seen confronting me, trespassing to do so, taking the trap and crossing the street to stash the trap on the side of the house she entered, presumably hers.

So I get my trap back but she won't come to the door. This is where I started this post as I'm now just a bystander as the drama unfolds around me. Enter cat walker wife. She comes down the sidewalk towards me crying and squalling like you stole an ice cream cone from a two year old. Seriously I thought she was about to hit the ground throwing a hissy fit. So I ask her to take a breath and calm down if she wishes to have a reasonable discussion. But its fruitless the officer has to intervene and tell her that if she continued she would be placed under arrest for disorderly, interfering with a person in their duties, and obstructing. He had to tell her four times by my count before cat walker drug her off.

By now we are drawing a small crowd. And some bystanders have heard that some madman is running around killing foxes but most seem oddly surprised when I not only introduce myself and own up to it but go into the why of it. Whether they fully grasped that Atlanta does have rabies and removing foxes is needed I don't know but none chucked a rock at me.

So the officer tells me he'll wait her out but I can go. So I apologize to the client for the drama and the client asks me to reconsider prosecution as he doesn't want bad blood between neighbors. I don't want it either but I want the book thrown at her. I do leave there though with an agreement. If she will talk to me like a reasonable person and she can come to understand just why what she did was wrong them maybe I might reconsider.

Maybe a mile down the road the officer calls and says she's willing to talk. So turn around knowing this won't be good.

Standing in her driveway I'm given ample opportunity to state my case and I do so using the best biology and zoonotic and rules and regulatory I can muster. The entire time the officer is having to shush her to allow me to talk or telling cat walker wife that's she's about to go to jail and a new one the HOA president is getting that same invitation from the officer.

Then my turn to hear her out all I hear is I feel, I think, I,I,I,I.

I look at the officer and say go ahead just tell me when and and where I need to be to testify.

Oh, and I didn't pull traps. I don't want to leave the client with a problem though I believe I have them all. Plus I might trap more than just a fox.

Hope they throw the book at her but would be surprised if she gets so much as probation.

Sadly, she probably won't get anymore than a fine even with you pressing charges. What a day though! I sure don't envy you trapping in urban locations.

Hope she took the fox in her and a pint of mange mites jumped in the carpet.

Good job. Hopefully she gets more than just a stern talking to.
Urbanites (often)are really ignorant about rabies and rabies vectors in general. Who knows, maybe you opened some eyes amongst the silent background observers.

Wonder if it’s possible to get a trapping organization to be there an help support you. Kinda like when someone gets a DUI....MADD is there. I would donate to a trapping organization if they had something like that

Warrior , send the head in for testing.
For 1) to cover your butt.
For 2) for an interesting angle in the courtroom , judge will make ruling over the seriousness of a rabies vector species and why the public should not interfere.
For 3) if it comes back positive , it is like a bomb went off , media will run with it Yugely.

Awesome.

thanks for doing what you did [warrior] trying to explain it to people , keep us posted on out come

Not going to happen. The GTA hates us urban NWCOs even though most of the GTA has their permits. They think we're a bunch of johny come latelys that are going to do something stupid on camera and get trapping shut down.

And you can't get three NWCOs in the same room without the knives coming out.

Awwww you just need to get some lawyers involved...

Are you a member of the GA Trapping Org? I know in some States if it was up to NWCO's no one could trap nuisance jobs with out going through the course they sell seats in.
I am not sure the State org is the problem. Too many NWCO's feel if no one else could trap, they would have it made.

I don't feel that way at all, never have. I'll fight to death for the fur trapper even though I've never fur trapped. I know and understand just where NWCO came from and owe a huge debt of gratitude to the fur guys who laid the foundation and built what provides my living.

But I've never been made to feel welcome in the GTA. Old timers told me flat out they would fight me tooth and toenail if I even mentioned the word snare to the DNR. So I said collarum instead and the GTA called out myself and a colleague on the front page of their newsletter with the words "the man singlehandedly trying to end trapping as we know it in the state of Georgia".

Most these young buck NWCOs, PCOs actually have never even heard of the GTA much less care about what they do.

.... get all those suburban sissies locked up Warrior lol

BTW, I've done exactly that spending two years standing beside Kirk Dekalb trying futility to save turtle trapping in this state even though I hammered out a NWCO exemption on day one. The GTA never bothered to show their faces. When confronted on it they said as long as they leave the footholds alone we'll give them whatever they want.

wow, you can't underestimate the stupidity of anti's

Warrior, more patience than me. Carry on good sir...

Mine Too

Great ending

Nice

Another pup this morning. Seven total in three days. Didn't see a soul on the street. I reset and will check tomorrow.

Warrior does Georgia have a no harassment law ? You may be able to press further charges and even protect your homeowner from fallout from the HOA .

Good deal. Georgia wardens must do there jobs.

Jerry had a lady steal his fox trap in Wyoming and the warden wanted to charge her with stealing it but the wardens supetvisor wouldn't let him write her a ticket.

The wardens boss said Jerry should set somewhere lse. He was 100% legal and she had to go out of her way to get the trap. It was not on a pathway or close to normal human traffic.

The warden was upset but told Jerry he had to do what his boss said even though he thought it was BS.because his boss was tying his hands when it came to enforcing the law.

Jerry was livid he wanted to know..and asked the warden..Why have the laws if you've got an anti in charge who won't enforce them when it comes to trapping?

The warden said he completely understood Jerry being upset but there was nothing he could do without losing hi is job.

And THAT'S why I'm not an urban trapper! I'll stick to fur.

Good job Warrior.

Excellent restraint W. That coulda went wrong fast. Did I read that write that she took a trap with fox inside into her possession? Seems like that would be a violation from the game n fish perspective?

If there is no call for it then why did you see fit to call names ? Look in the mirror !

That's a good deal

I've got buddies of mine from the Marine Corps who are police officers all over Atlanta, several in that area. They'd love to give those types a ride.

Just got it confirmed, she has a court date.

What all did she get charged with?

So not to be this guy but please tell me you just using cages now, seems with those types in you and their talking video a clip of a fox in a foot hold could really....not be good

Wolfe, I have no reason not to use any legal method. However, I do have sense enough to try to keep somethings out of sight. If they wish to make an issue out of my methods they have to break the law to do so.

However, if you can show me a cage method for canines that is effective and efficient as footholds then I'm all ears.

Actually, there are a couple alternatives in this setting that the GTA has opposed for years.

The collarum device.
Cable restraints.