word choices- I guess "evacuate" is better than..

..."surrender"....

Its pretty much over in Mariupol, Ukraine, the Russians and DPR people have won. As Lancaster states, most of the city has been cleared of any Ukrainian fighters for over a month, the holdouts-- what was left of the Ukie Marine regiment, the "Azov Battalion" "National Guard" and their various "friends" have been hold up in a massive old steel making plant called "Avozstal". Yesterday, about 300+ surrendered, including a number of wounded. The Ukrainian government has declared the fighters in the Avozstal plant "military mission over" but most of the western media calls what happened yesterday an "evacuation" as if these guys are going back to Ukie government controlled territory, For some, that may happen in time, for the ones having various "interesting" tattoos, not for a good long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa7lW6b7ZLs

P.S. The U.S. Senate voted 89-11 to fund 40 BILLION more for the Ukrainians to fight the Russians.

P.S.S. The exchange rate today of the Rus ruble to the USD was 65 to 1, up 30+% in ruble purchasing power vs the USD since March 5

40 billion to Ukraine , but we couldn't get 5 billion to secure our own border on the south


Some real bs

Us senate sucks

Finland and Sweden are joining NATO.
Putins big blunder has backfired on him.
Those countries were previously non aligned.

Boco- So, how does the calculus change if Sweden and Finland join NATO...? They have a combined population of 16 million people and can bring about in short order about 50,000 to fight. The reserve strength is much higher but that is reserve and would take time and money to bring to bear. The Swedes have some industrial ability to make their weapon systems, the Finns less so. Neither has fought any sort of war in 80 years (for the Finns), hundreds for the Swedes. Again, in the end, how does that really change things?

I know, the Finns kicked the Rus butt in the "Winter War". Yes, this is correct for round 1, but that is not the whole story of the Winter War. In the end, the Finns made a deal with the Russians because in round 2, the Finns were going to lose against the much larger Russian military and industrial/natural resources might. Again, that is history. How does that translate to now...?

Same way Putin didn't want Ukraine to join....allows us to have bases and nukes at his border.

One time Boco is spot on, Putin tramped in it if his stated reason for invading Ukraine is true.

Check out a map. If Sweden and Finland join Nato it immediately upgrades the air defense capabilities on the eastern flank of Nato.........Air and anti air systems are the weak spots in Nato defense in the eastern half of the alliance. Both countries already spend more on defense, relative to GDP, than other Nato countries. They have well trained, high tech air defense systems already in place.

But even more than that.......take a look at the island of Gotland. It sits right in the middle of Russia's main access point to the Atlantic. That would bottle up Russian navy vessels and require that they launch from ports like Murmansk which may not be ice free when they need them.

Add that to the Dardenelles....controlled by Turkey ( Nato) and Russian naval operations could be severely restricted.

Also, there is a good bet that Putin attacked Ukraine because it wasn't a Nato member.

Seems like a win-win for Nato if they join

How many ethnic Russians living in Finland and Sweden getting harassed and warred on for the last 8 years...?

Getting out of the Baltic and the Black Sea have always been problems for the Russians. The Danes and Norwegians already control tight spots, not only Sweden and Gotland island. Turkey has always controlled the 2 tight spots getting out of the Black Sea. One reason why the Russian fleet there hasn't been overly large.

Of course, you all are assuming that the Swedes will fight. They haven't fought a war since when, the mid-to-late 1700s?

I guess we'll find out how well all the smaller NATO countries fight the Rus when an Article 5 incident gets done and the bigger NATO boys and girls decide to go kinetic besides what they're doing now. Summer solstice is just over a month way, should give plenty of photo period for everybody to play war for real in all of Europe...

Why are you so pro-russian? Why do you identify with and support our country's adversary?

Keith

You confuse the adversary of our government-media-multinational corporation ruling class with the rest of us. There is a difference. Some people get it, some don't. We have been lied to for years but the last 5 or so have been more blatant than ever before as the people mentioned above run this land into the ground. I took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States against enemies, both foreign and domestic. I didn't take an oath to uphold corrupt, self-serving politicians, lying media talking heads, and multi-national corporation leaders who wouldn't give 2 ***ts whether you lived or died.

You want a real war and regime change with and in Russia, go for it but its going to cost a lot of coin that we don't have and a lot more American blood than you think. And that's if it stays within the bump pads of a conventional war. Go put Auntie Lindsey Graham and much of the rest of the DC swamp creatures that war so bad and let them kill Russians on the Donbas front if that's what turns them on. But of course, that will never happen, it will be our kids and grandkids doing it and us, and the generations that follow writing the checks, if the country survives.

So, its not so simple as "our adversaries". You see my angle yet...?

Just another commie lover,thats why.

Hahahahahahaaa!!!! Get 'em tiger

Putin makes our thieves look like amateurs if that's why rooting for him.

You'd soon beg for our thieves back.

There are plenty of communist to kill right here in the good old U.S.A. Yet folks worry about commies getting killed in foreign lands. If you war hawks insist we kill commies on foreign soil, I'm all in for the Chinese communist. After all their little biological attack has killed many Americans, my brother included among them. Open your eyes, the enemy is in the Whitehouse, bought and paid for by the CCP, not the Kremlin.

Some in this country are now infatuated with authoritarians. It's sad and unamerican.

If the Russians invaded U.S., the Putin lovers would no doubt welcome their KGB hero with open arms.

I'm more closely aligned with NonPCfed than you. By a longshot.

Cool. Y'all should start a Putin Fan Club.

I'm not a fan of Putin and his war. I'm not a fan of Ukraine either. Why in the world should we be involved in this in any way, shape or form? If Russia wants to conquer Ukraine... fine. If Ukraine wants to conquer some country weaker than it... cool... no skin off my nose either way.`

WHY are we sending money to Ukraine? How does that benefit our country in any way?

And OT but WHY are we sending troops to Somalia again too?

Are we still hating on Putin while supporting the far more insidious European socialists? Maybe their "free" healthcare and draconian gun laws can overcome the evil oligarch.

Let them butcher each other... Without my tax dollars and the hardware I helped pay for.

Mike

Because we didn't botch it up enough the first time... After Afghanistan I guess they figure we can do a better job of losing more money, hardware, and American lives this time around.

I can't believe there are people here who voted for this moronic administration.

Mike

BC I thought you appreciated news from different sources? Are you vying for a spot at the DHS and the disinformation police?

We are in agreement on not wasting tax dollars or lives on other countries.

Your post makes no sense.

I pointed out that some on this site are infatuated with authoritarians--including Putin. Source, Trapperman.com.

About how I feel about that conflict. It's like two mob bosses in a gangland war. I do feel sorry for the civilians though, lose everything over which mob boss gets to control the racket.

I thought you had a problem with NonPc's source of information that had a different take on what is happening than that of the main stream western media? If not, my bad.

LOL,shows your lack of knowledge.
Countries of the EU are democracys,russia is communist.

I am not a Putin or commie lover. But, I do not believe Ukraine is winning anything like we are being told. I notice you don't hear much about the US funded bio labs in Ukraine. I have read where Putin was talking about them. I don't care for all the money laundering that happens in Ukraine with our government. I feel there is less chance of Putin harming the general American public than our own Government at this point. Look at what is going on. Do you think this is just a stroke of bad luck? They are saying electricity, fuel and food shortages. When was the last time we saw that? Why is it happening?

Blaine County, my gut feeling is you're a lot like Lane Smith's character "Mayor Bates" in the original 1980's Red Dawn although I don't think it will be mad, bad Vlad and his boys trying to do the authoritarian take down of the USA. I think the folks that will be implementing that action are already here...

If it comes to that, they'll send our guys elsewhere to do it and bring guys in from elsewhere to do it here.

Keith

It is really a shame that America has come to this point....and we will probably look back in a few months and wish we had it as good as now...

That's it. We could survive the enemies without if it weren't for the enemies within.

Every time American politicians send our tax dollars outside our borders, rest assured the crooks have figured out how to skim a million here and there or more$$$. Either to friends, family or straw business's....

Gauranteed!

Been showing clips of pelosi , McConnell and other swamp creatures over there shaking hands with Zelensky. Wasn't it a call to Zelensky they impeached Trump for?

Here's the kicker...Biden asked for 30 billion in aid but congress up'd it to 40 billion for some unknown reason.

This was the headline this morning from a news article.

More than 950 Ukrainian fighters have left Mariupol steelworks, according to Russia's defense ministry

Left. I thought left implied that they were able to do so of their free choice.

I think they mean they were captured.

This is why no one can trust the media anymore.

The soldiers didn't leave... they surrendered to Russian forces and were hauled away as prisoners of war.

Ok bud. Keep drinking that Kool-aid. Canada is more communist than Russia at this point.

Mike

If I don't believe what our media is reporting about the war and don't like the idea of our corrupt politicians sending $ or troops over there am I a Putin lover? I'm pretty simple and still can realize u can dislike what one side is doing without being a supporter of the other side.....

Last count was a total of 1,800 Azovstal defenders "evacuated" to the DPR and Rus forces. No word on how many were non-Ukrainian "friends" in that number. Several "interesting" folks have supposedly been among the captured before but that's just "conspiracy theory" /"bat-**** crazy" stuff so you all can go research that on your own. Probably only a couple hundred left down in the "pit".

Speculation is out there---I know, I know its just Russian propaganda-- that other UAF units in the east may actually give it up as well, after hearing that the Azovstal heroes didn't actually fight to the last drop of blood (as they or their government said they would) and have surrendered. Most people can only take getting pounded by arty for so long. If the Donbas front actually collapsed, then perhaps true real peace talks to end this 8 year morass might gain traction. Wow, what a shocker that would be...

40 billion for uke passes congress....

The measure will bring the total American investment in the war to roughly $54 billion in just over two months. The Senate approved it overwhelmingly, on a vote of 86-11, in the latest reflection of the remarkable bipartisan support on Capitol Hill for a massive investment in Ukraine’s war effort, which propelled the spending package through the House last week.

The Ukrainian laundromat will be busy now. Wonder how much Schumer, McConnel, Pelosi, and McCarthy will make out of this deal?

I hope they successfully pile up the russians with our money instead of passing it back to the democrats.

Keith

Ukraine wouldn't be getting a dime if there wasn't a plan in place to launder some of that aid back into the pockets of everyone who voted for it.

Mike

Hey, KeithC- How about the people (mostly ethnic Russians but some ethnic Ukrainian as well) in the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts who now fight under the flags of the DPR and LPR after the Kiev government in 2014 wouldn't recognize the outcomes of their referendums for autonomy? Throw them in with Putins boys and stack them like cord wood too even though the territory is "their land"? Or only kill Putin's boys and leave the DPR and LPR guys alone? You have me confused!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Donbas_status_referendums

Remember, here's the map from the 2010 Ukrainian presidential election. The blue areas were for the guy that won who wanted closer relations with Russia. Somehow he didn't get to run for re-election a few years later...

In view of the Donbas capitulation and should Putin decide to call it a day , will your Gov't's next scam be for more" reconstruction $" for Ukraine and further help them that are already helping themselves in the swamp?

Must watch video

The last of the Ukrainian defenders of the Avozstal Steel plant in Mariupol surrendered on May 20, bringing the total count of prisoners for the week at 2,439 from the pit. Mariupol is, for now, a "rear" city, although most of the people still there have been trying to rebuild their lives the last month while staying clear of the steel plant. Both FNC and CBS mentioned the Avozstal surrender but didn't give any numbers and went directly to village scale stories about settlements around Kharkov that had been recently liberated from Russian troops. No mention about the "pocket" forming around a good number of the UAF units in the central Donbas.

P.S. U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Milley talked to the Chief of the Russian General Staff on May 19. That follows the call from Sec of Defense Austin to the Russians on May 14. Why is the U.S. DoD talking to the Rus if their client state in "winning"...?

P.S.S. On Friday, in the federal court case by John Durham of Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign lawyer, it came out that then Clinton staffer Jake Sullivan, now Sniffy's "National Security Advisor", was lying on Twitter and tv media while spreading the fake Trump-Russian collusion story that the Clinton campaign started. And this POS has been elevated to one of the most powerful positions within the Executive branch. God have mercy on our souls!!

John Mark Dougan has an interesting video(s) of the Marioupol steel plant after the “evacuation “. Some colorful language so a link isn’t appropriate.

Dougan is a former US soldier and he identifies many US weapons in the plant, scattered among the Nazi symbols left by the Azov Battalion. He ask a very relevant question in my mind, that is, Why is the US supporting Nazis?

Money, both sides are after money.

No, because you think rank and file Russians think like you do. They were born and raised to hate everything we stand for. That hasn't changed to the extent that your sunshine and rainbow theory would suggest. The average American and the average Russian have very little in common. Your beloved Democrat party has done more damage with Russia than the Republican party has. Clinton, Obama, and Biden have been SUCH great shining examples of foreign policy involving Russia. Democrats control the entire govt now... which side are the war hawks on? Spare us the "I swore an oath" bit, millions of us did. I'd have way more respect for you if you'd just come out and say you liked Russia instead of hiding behind a bunch of democratic party talking points.

I'm perfectly okay with the Ukrainian majority using our weapons to stack up anyone who sides with our country's and our allies's, russian enemies. The russians have been our enemies longer than almost all of us have been alive.

Keith

zelinsky the nwo puppet is now predicting 'be afraid' because russia is causing a worldwide food shortage....also raises the question if russia is being beat so badly how did they block all ports? Just another 'be afraid' moment like what hillary did during the 2016 potus race...the real bad guys are running the USA/eu right now. We are giving/have given this nwo puppet 55 billion......that is just nuts. Meanwhile back here in the USA things are going down the crapper....we could use the 55 billion to secure our own borders..which are being invaded daily by millions...and that is allowed/encouraged to happen by who is in charge here....it is very, very bad...but worry about uke and how they are blasting the crap out of russia....meanwhile they have no seaports because russia has taken them all over....big scam going on in the money laundering capitol of the world...are these people going to create a worldwide food shortage and blame russia so they have more support to war against russia? anything biden supports cannot be good for the USA that I love, so there is that also...he only supports things to bring us down.

(fox)

A top Biden official said Sunday that the global food shortage crisis would push farmers toward relying on more green energy.
"Never let a crisis go to waste," U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) Chief Samantha Power told ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week."
Speaking of the global consequences of Russia’s war with Ukraine, the Biden official said that fertilizer shortages would provide farmers the opportunity to "hasten" their "transition" from fertilizer to more "natural" resources.



(fox)
A food supply expert warns that the world faces a global crisis in just 10 weeks, echoing a warning from Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

"Russia has blocked almost all ports and all, so to speak, maritime opportunities to export food – our grain, barley, sunflower and more. A lot of things," Zelenskyy said Saturday. "There will be a crisis in the world. The second crisis after the energy one, which was provoked by Russia."

Anyone destroying Nazis has my support in that effort, though I may disagree with their views and/or actions in other matters.

So, I guess under KeithC's reasoning, we need to defeat a county (their people) first (Germany- twice, Japan) and then they can become "'our" (the ruling elite's) friend. Otherwise, "we're" just perpetual enemies until beat them in a direct war...?

Just curious, KeithC, how old are you? I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours...

I'm 52.

I completely fail to see how you could come up with such a ludicrous notion from anything I have wrote.

Keith

I'm 59, so the tail end of the 1st Cold War generation (Baby Boomer). You would be in the 2nd (1964 through 1991) Cold War generation. Or don't you believe the Cold War ever ended...?



How did I reach such a "ludicrous" notion? Hmmm...we had a vicious war with the Japanese and the Germans in 1940s, defeated them, occupied both countries for while, set them on the "righteous" path, and now those countries are our friends. Americans have never fought Russians directly (except for some limited battles between 1918-1920 in Siberia during their civil war) so after our falling out with the Russkies post-1945 they have been our enemy, i.e. the Russian government under various regimes. If we have become non-enemies with the Japanese and Germans in under 75 years by first defeating them in war, then doesn't your thesis require us to defeat the Russian government by warfare to become "friends" by making them a true, non-corrupt democratic government that basically agrees with us?? I'm just inferring what I see is the logical path from what you stated.

The ludicrous part is you attributing your thoughts and words to me. I am not you and very obviously don't think like or believe what you do. Please stop making wild guesses on what I think and believe.

Keith

Whatever. Stay perpetual enemies with you ever you want, just don't think it may all end up smelling like roses or a nicely done steak in the end." We", not the ruling elite class, will end up spending lots and lots of invisible money we don't have and probably a lot of our people's blood and the victory you're after may still not come to fruition...

US $ to uke=54 billion.

UK has been averaging just under 50 billion a year on defense budget....other than the USA only saudi(61 bil), france(50 bil) and germany(49 bil) spend 50 billion on defense...I think if you count all the aid sent to uke it totals more than any nations defense budget other than the USA which in 700+ billion.

The russian defense budget is 40+ billion....

Again you are attributing thoughts to me i don't have. Again please stop. It's very strange to do that.

Keith

I looked it up because the Russia defense figure looked awfully low to me. You're right, the US spends ten times as much. I'm not a Putin lover, I'm a media despiser.

China is at 200 billion....roughly 1/3 of the US defense budget.

USSR in 1987 was 257 billion....USA was 291 billion...

We know what happened to the USSR...

Considering Russia has had nuclear weapons for 70+ years ready to kill Americans, they're our enemy. Or did Russian media convince the Putin lovers otherwise? Or maybe Putin has his fan club convinced its America's fault that he's pointing them at us--right now.

They never stopped being our enemy.

Same could be said of China, only more recently. One of our largest trading partners. Surely their missiles aren't aimed at us. Right?

The USA is the only nation to detonate nukes on enemy soil and we aimed our nukes before anyone else had any to aim.

So, there is that.

Settle down or Canada will point our potato gun at you.

Boco for the score!!

Dam, Blaine County, I didn't know you were so tight with the Russkies to know all of their strategic targeting info!!! What did you have to do to get that access?? Maybe we don't want to know...

As someone who has actually walked past an active US ICBM site while antelope hunting back in the 1990s, before the Ellsworth AFB missile wing was deactivated, the whole "spasm" nuclear exchange between the USA and Russia is a bit over blown unless some really stupid thinking gets into play. By the way, counselor, if you ever get to western South Dakota, try staying at the Missile Inn Bed and Breakfast north of Phillip. Its an interesting experience but it might not be classy enough for your tastes...

http://www.missileinnbedandbreakfast.com/

Considering China has killed over 1,000,000 Americans with their biological attack, why in the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) is anybody worried about Russia right now.

KYIV (Reuters) - A Ukrainian court on Monday ordered the arrest in absentia of former President Viktor Yanukovich, accusing him of treason over an agreement he signed in 2010 extending Russia's lease on naval facilities in Crimea.

Funny thing about nuclear weapons... A lot of folks would probably be shocked to know who has nukes pointed at us... And us them. Nobody really trusts anybody when it comes to nuclear arsenals.

Mike

A couple questions to help me understand your pro-Russian stance better Nonpcfed.

Putting aside any of our actions,
What makes you pro Russia to the point you feel it's ok for them to take over other countries with military action?

Do you believe any of the allegations that Putin poisons/killed to keep power?

Do you believe this action is to actually save the ethnic Russians in Ukraine?

Personally as I've stated before, I believe it's two countries (us and Russia) fighting for one thing....money. And Putin couldn't care less how many civilians he kills, pro or con to him.
If our Interest was actually involved to stop the genocide I'd be 100% behind them, but being honest our govt is not much better.

Either way, to fall for one side of the stories being told from there is naive and to be blunt, imo that includes alot of what you're falling for. I just don't see the Russians as kicking ...
Or they wouldn't have less ground than they had a month ago.

Who tells you that...?

To really understand what is going on now is to understand the low current war that has been going on in the Donbas since 2014. The first Patrick Lancaster youtube video about the war isn't from 2022 but Dec 2016 when he in a covered trench emplacement with DPR guys taking occasional UAF arty fire. The ethnic Russian speaking folks of that part of Ukraine, from 40 to 60% of the population in the eastern part of the country, were willing to generally go along with things but the nationalists in Kiev starting putting the pressure on things for a long time, since the late 1990s, starting first by prohibiting using Russian as a language in schools, official events even though all the ethnic Ukrainians all know how to speak Russian but not all ethnic Russians can speak Ukrainian. The Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts (sort of our state equivalents) had referendums in 2014 that sought autonomy but not complete independence from the Kiev government and they passed with high percentage of the voters. But the Kiev government said the vote was a fraud (this is after they overthrew Yanukovich in a "revolution") and ignored the people and things got ugly and stayed ugly since that time. The DPR and LPR forces in the east have done just as much fighting as the regular Russian forces.

Do I think mad bad Vlad uses poisons to maintain power, yeah probably so, poisons have a long history of use going back into Imperial Russia as well. Putin is a a crime boss but so is Zelinsky. The difference is Putin and company do their crime activities mostly with the their own country's money and foreign coin coming in to buy things from Russia. Zelinsky and crew are crime bosses with OUR money, along with stuff they skim off of things going out of Ukraine. The Ukie crime syndicate really blew up when the Obama-Biden crime "family" got into power in 2009. I think we would be surprised to see how many votes old bad mad Vlad would get in a totally free presidential election. Many Russians see him upholding their Eastern Orthodox culture in the face of general secular culture in the West but people actually have to know the 1,000 years of that culture in Russia to understand.

I dare people to go to Substack, and look at "A Skeptic's" daily montage of the war. Lots and lots of images a person will never see in U.S/ Canada MSM. But of course,all of it is staged!! (warning some pretty graphic stuff over there). I would also challenge people to watch Patrick Lancaster's videos of them out tooling around in the countryside and stopping at various villages and talking to the common people. Of course, that might be all staged as well but the production costs to stage many of those videos would be some serious coin.

P.S. Stay out of "tree strips" in eastern Ukraine. They tend to be the cover that both sides use to dig in and fight from because generally its the only cover around.

P.S.S. T-64s have much smaller "road wheels" in the bottom of the tracks than T-72s and later models of Russian tanks. The Russian forces have no T-64s they are using, only the UAF and the break away republics forces (DPR, LPR). So, when you see MSM showing burnt out "Russian" tanks with small wheels in the tracks, its not RF armor but one of the others. The T-64 turrets are also somewhat different than T-72s and later. Same thing with the older APCs, especially those with "single-man" turrets, All older stuff and not being used by RF forces.

People on both the Ukrainian and Russian social media call the other sides "orcs".

Its easy to see how elements on both sides can treat the others as sub-humans. Maybe there are elements in the U.S. and Canada that view their opponents or enemies as sub-human monsters but I think there is less history of that here than in other cultures...

I put in "Ukraine means borderland" and got this hit down a few. Its an interesting and short read...

https://theconversation.com/ukraine...s-place-between-europe-and-russia-178168

a month ago you got 78 rubles for a US dollar.....today you get 57.5 rubles for a US dollar....ruble gains 30% on the dollar in 30 days....if the sanctions are destroying russia how is that possible? could we be getting lied too?

Interesting. The exchange rate had stabilized at about 65 to 1 for a couple of weeks or more, now has moved another 8 or so in a week's time.

I read that more of the European nations/companies are now willing, through some bank manipulations, to pay rubles for their natural gas needs. The idea that the U.S. and other countries can supply major Euro countries such as Germany with LNG by ship to replace the Rus pipelines appears to be turning out to be the fantasy that some people said all along. Maybe in the future if more billions upon billions are sunk into creating additional LNG infrastructure but that's the future and not the present...

Hi all. I am very pleased to read that many of you have finally had an epiphany, but many still do not know what awaits your country in the next couple of years.

Enlighten us

Yeah I can't wait for more propaganda from the Politburo.

Get ready Putin lovers, a message may be coming!

Ask the great freedom fighter of the American people KeithC, who urged the American people to kill Russians.

Don't be scared if you have something to say, you spouted off so you can answer for yourself.

He's full of it and so are his Putin loving internet buddies.

Keith is in the KGB data bank,tagged for the gulag for when Russia takes over the west.
Kosoi has the inside info,lol.
All the Putin lovers will be the so called useful idiots.lol.

Guys, I see you have really been brainwashed for a long time.

And?

Boko, don't worry, you'll be one of the first KGB to have a drum around your neck, made of American or maybe Canadian leather.

Maybe you can put a good word in for me,Kosoi,lol.
Get me an easier job in the Gulag.maybe an extra crust of bread once in a while.

IMO, as western civilization continues to embrace evil, welcome it into our borders, and also promote it (even to our innocent young children) the US and EU will continue to spiral down the crap hole it is already in.

If we don't Nip this woke crap in the bud here in the USA (soon to be USSA), then within 10-15 years, Russia will be the only place true Christian believers will be safe. I can take the rock throwing.

I agree but do not think it will take anywhere near 10 years. monkeypox was spread at a gay fetish festival in the eu where they celebrate all kinds of freaks....no gay fetish festival would be allowed in russia based on the best of my knowledge on that subject.

its really bad here now,maybe you better get out while the getting is good.

You aint seen nothing yet, as far as how bad it will get.

I think I'll just stay here and defend what I believe standing on the truth of the Rock. If voting and diplomacy continues to not work in this country, then I will choose the alternative, as Simeon and Levi did. I owe that to my ancestors and my children.

KOSOI,

What is it like to be Christian in Russia now?

Amen.

In Russia everything is fine with this. let's talk about it in RM.

So what happens to the 40 billion if Ukraine surrenders as nation before all or some of the 40 billion gets spent by the Ukraine military ? Do the Demos get to split it for democratic candidates that are running the next 2 years ? MD

it is 54 billion, total..so far......but there will be more.

54 billion is more than any other european country spends on defense including russia...@40+ billion.

I imagine 10+ billion gets laundered back...no way to account for all that $, no one will even try.

xelensky was a comic/actor a few years ago....now he will be a billionaire after this deal.....

A Dutch political party has taken an interest in Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s personal finances. “Zelensky has a fortune: various estimates put his wealth at around $850 million. He amassed most of it after taking office as president.

I imagine uke may be another panama....

There most likely will be a Polish-Ukrainian confederation in the western part of the current country boundaries. Up through 1939, everything north and west of Lvov was Polish, Lvov was a Polish city. The Russians would probably stop at the Dnieper River and maybe take Odessa in the south and west of the river and leave the western part of old Ukraine landlocked. Or give it back through peace negotiations. In the 2010 presidential election, Odessa region and the southern coast didn't vote for the EU favoring candidate.

As for hippie saying the other day that the Rus and their allied forces hold less ground in Ukraine now than a month ago, eastern and southern Ukie land is more than just the city of Kharkov. I haven't seen Bill Hemmer and some retired U.S. general stand next FNC's map board and talk about anything recently, except the tactical pull back of the RF forces directly around Kharkov which helped them secure their supply routes south of that city to feed their offensives further southeast. The city of Lyman was being taken the past few days, a major rail hub south of Izyum (that is now the main resupply area away from Kharkov). This nearly cuts off the larger city of Severodonetsk and good number of UAF in that area. The Russians are picking up UAF prisoners daily, including a group of 500 late last week. The Russians are also picking up ground in the south. But you'll not hear any of this on MSM.

Now, Sniffy and the minions will go after our guns after yesterday's tragedy. The Ukraine war is becoming more of a back burner as UAF in the east continue to take a beating. I could show some photos of RF and DPR forces with a nice pile of fresh Brit MLAWs and U.S. javelins but perhaps next time...

P.S. Blaine County, you need to plump the depths of your vocab to pick up some new insults. Calling me a "Putin lover" or even a "traitor" just doesn't do it anymore. Sort calling a person a "racist". After the will, its just bird ***t that easily washes off. Work on a new insult arrow or two. I'll be waiting...

There's always cult, that used to be a favorite.

Lol!

Maybe who hasn't seen it? see what your countryman says. most likely he will be sentenced to death as well. KIT, do you still want to fight against Russians?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dGtOxQ-ipA

Koski, you sound like the russians my Ukranian grandparents told me about that drug their parent out of their home to never be seen again!

I don't understand what you mean. What do drugs have to do with it?

Not drugs, bodily drag someone out of their house.

Alexei uses a translating app I believe-sometimes things dont get translated the way they are meant to be.

Do you really think that you are intimidating??? I don’t see the point, I think we’ll be fine if the time were to come.

After the special operation in Ukraine is over, I don't think everything will be all right in america. time will judge us. we'll see.

KOSOI- I doubt your or the break away governments are going to execute any western fighters unless they can be directly linked to war crimes. They are worth more as some sort of bargaining chips. Unless, of course, this proxy war actually goes hot with direct NATO/US force kinetic action. If that happens, who cares about these couple 2-3 guys recently captured.

"Advancing to the rear", or "Bugging Out" is a time honored military tactic.

You should not doubt it. It will happen to every mercenary.

The Ruskies are coming, the Ruskies are coming!