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Posted By: BigBob

Hay and Straw bales - 07/19/22 10:26 PM

What are they going for around you ? More interested in city/urban prices than bulk farm cost. Thanks, in advance.

Looking for the small sq bale prices.
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/19/22 10:34 PM

Even in small numbers, small squares of straw are $2.00 to $3.00 each and hay $4.00 to $8.00 each per bale here, close to Columbus and Dayton, Ohio. There's usually a 50 cent drop in price per bale for larger numbers.

Keith
Posted By: Machias

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/19/22 10:37 PM

Hay has shot right through the roof here in the NW. $17 for a bale of hay. $350 to $400 for a ton of hay. Stunning to me how much it has gone up in the past two years!!!!
Posted By: upstateNY

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/19/22 10:40 PM

Small square bales right now.Mulch hay,( Hay to spread over grass seed),,,$1.50 bale.Feed Hay,,$2.50-$3.50 bale.
Posted By: nvwrangler

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/19/22 10:42 PM

Feed store prices around reno are about $27 or $28 per bale and $500 a ton. I just bought 1000 ton of grass at $445 per ton delivered. We'll see what 2000 ton of alfalfa costs in the next couple of weeks.
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/19/22 10:52 PM

Below is the latest report of the weekly hay auction located about 20 miles from me. We have had good hay crops todate. If it stays dry then 3rd and 4th will be shorter. Many Craig'slist hay ads are for 4-6 dollars per small bale depending upon quality.

Bryce


Hay Market (sold by the ton) 7/13/22
High Quality 2nd. and 3rd. Crop 110-150
High Quality 1st. Crop 110-150
Low Quality Hay 110 and down
Straw 50-110/poor quality lower
Hay Sales every Wednesday at Noon, Hay must be at the market by 11:00 a.m.

Hay will be probed in the summer and fall months for moisture.
Posted By: EdP

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/19/22 11:29 PM

Small sq bales, large sq bales, or round bales???

Around here wheat isn't grown so all straw is brought in and is more expensive than small sq bales of horse hay. Last yr my horse hay (grass and alfalfa) was $4.50 each. Don't know what it will be this year.
Posted By: Bob

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/19/22 11:59 PM

Havenít bought hay in a while, but the farmer I worked for last year was selling it for $280 a ton, straight alfalfa. I just bought 25 pounds of chopped straw at the feed store for chicken bedding, $11
Posted By: mike mason

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/20/22 12:05 AM

Square bales $4/5-bale, straw $5/6-bale
Posted By: Snyderbwh

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/20/22 12:19 AM

Hay goes for 7 bucks a bale here, if the economy keeps going like it is the guy we buy from said he would have to start charging 10- 15 dollars a bale.
Posted By: HayDay

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/20/22 01:50 AM

Small square bales of good, mixed grass hay......50 pounds........now $10 per bale. Equine and dairy goat markets.
Posted By: nvwrangler

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/20/22 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by HayDay
Small square bales of good, mixed grass hay......50 pounds........now $10 per bale. Equine and dairy goat markets.


So 2 and a 1/4 bales to one of ours = 12.50 a bale in our area. Our small bales are 115 to 125 lb average. We are ar least double the price out west.
Posted By: BigBob

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/20/22 05:26 PM

YOWZER!!! The prices sure do vary widely!
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/20/22 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by BigBob
YOWZER!!! The prices sure do vary widely!


When transportation costs are low, there's a huge amount of money to be made buying hay where it's cheap and selling it where it's expensive.

Keith
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/20/22 07:39 PM

Hay is a local crop and really depends on supply. Plenty of hay the price is typically sold for the cost of producing if not less. Short supply and there is no real top that won't be paid. Our local suppliers are helped significantly by our many horse owners. Many of the smaller stables have very few horses and thus not large equipment or storage for large squares or rounds. If it were not for horses there would hardly be any small squares made here anymore. We also live in an area where 2/3rds or more of the total hay crop forage is made into haylage or baylage.

Bryce
Posted By: SNIPERB🦝

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/20/22 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by bblwi
Hay is a local crop and really depends on supply. Plenty of hay the price is typically sold for the cost of producing if not less. Short supply and there is no real top that won't be paid. Our local suppliers are helped significantly by our many horse owners. Many of the smaller stables have very few horses and thus not large equipment or storage for large squares or rounds. If it were not for horses there would hardly be any small squares made here anymore. We also live in an area where 2/3rds or more of the total hay crop forage is made into haylage or baylage.

Bryce

Not so local anymore. This year will be more local due to gas prices but a lot of hay here was going out west because of draught.
Posted By: mike mason

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/20/22 08:39 PM

Traveling to WY in 2021, we saw truck after truck with hay traveling west. The outfitter we hunted with was selling a huge portion of his herd because he could not afford the hay costs.
Posted By: Machias

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/20/22 09:12 PM

Too funny, I am out west and we have tractor trailer load after tractor trailer load heading to the ports with our hay to be shipped overseas.
Posted By: nvwrangler

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/20/22 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Machias
Too funny, I am out west and we have tractor trailer load after tractor trailer load heading to the ports with our hay to be shipped overseas.


Yes lots of western hay is shipped to Japan and China even the middle east. Then producers ship in lower quality hay from the Midwest and parts back east.
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/21/22 03:43 AM

When I stated local I was referencing local price structure based on supply and demand. I receive the Progressive Dairy and the Progressive Forage Magazines monthly and there are hay stats from about 10 regions posted monthly. Huge differences in price for similar quality. Yes the dgrought in the west and Great Basin has spiked prices there. Twenty years ago a huge amount of super high quality western hay came to WI to be put in our dairy rations. With the advent of even more corn silage, BMR silage and legume-grass forage mixes and more double cropping with triticale and winter rye the amount of western hay in rations is way, way down. Probably more wheat straw brought in now then hay. The price for hay has no futures or basis market such as the grain crops it is totally based on each users idea of what to pay for the quality they want. With very high transportation costs and foreign demand dairy farmers in WI are not going to pay the prices the foreign buyers are willing to pay. Too many options. If hay in the western states is now say $250 per ton then a farmer here in WI probablly won't get more than 140-to 160 per ton for their hay as the cost to deliver is so high. The other thing that most of our larger operations do is store up large amounts of feed when available and reasonable. with bunkers, piles etc. it is not uncommon to have up to a year of feed on hand when it is priced right. As you can see with these prices and costs have almost doubled then spending an extra half million when reasonable is not a bad investment. It just takes really strong equity and good liquidity to have that much feed on hand. When you are feeding 3,000 cows 115 lbs. of as is feed a day and 60% is forage the piles of feed needed for a year even are very large.

Bryce
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/21/22 04:00 AM

Butt deep in hay here itís been raining like itís on a timer here just enough at the right time, it has yet to turn summer brown here yet.
Posted By: Deerkiller

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/21/22 05:01 PM

Just got 16 tons of certified weed free Timothy $300 ton about 550 bails small squares. South central Montana. You can get some cheaper but this is really good hay.
Posted By: Larry Baer

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/21/22 05:43 PM

I sell it for $5 for good heavy grass hay bales. Straw at the neighbors is gong for $5 also.


That said I puts 4 ads out since winter to sell hay. Not one person called. I have stemmy hay for $2 and top of the line best alfalfa for $8. Last year all sold for asking prices. This year people are super picky I guess. A $7 bale would be very helpful. My input cost for fertilizer for a 6 acre field in front of my house went from $320 to over $1,000 this year...... So I did not fertilize and am seeing less hay now because of it but if no one is buying....3rd cutting starting next week
Posted By: nvwrangler

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/21/22 05:54 PM

Almost half of this years supply

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If you look close they are unloading hay into the barn too.
Posted By: HayDay

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/21/22 06:34 PM

Around here, there is a big range of prices, but also a reason for it, as there is a big range in quality. Three different operators cut hay on three sides of me. All three brought in something north of $400,000 in equipment, yet only one or two seem to know much about making quality hay. One showed up at least a month after I was done cutting.......so it was over mature, stemmy junk.......the kind of stuff we used to say a cow would starve to death with a belly full of it. Two of them baled up POISONOUS weeds.

When I told one lady price was going to $10 a bale, she said OK. Would pay it. Prior to buying from me, all she could get was junk, and it was moldy to boot. Her horses almost died eating it. Have heard that story repeated more times than I can count. What passes for hay used to be part of what was once a growing plant, then eventually cut and put in bale form with a great deal of indifference, and passed off as "horse hay".

Mine is cut on a timely basis with mower conditioner to get it drying down fast, hit with a tedder if needed, which is almost always......rollabar rake to minimize dust and dirt in hay and baled at 15% moisture or less to avoid spoilage.......and bales are off the ground and in the barn within hours. 50 pound bales, packed tight like bricks (so smaller length), plus tractor slowed down so goal of 15 flakes per bale min for portion control when feeding it. Fertility is kept high, so mine makes about 3 ton per acre, first cutting. 50 pound bales as with 90% of buyers it is the lady or daughter what feeds the hay (by hand) and that is all they can physically handle.

Small, seemingly insignificant actions, but they all add up to allow me to sell for about double what the others are getting.
Posted By: SNIPERB🦝

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/21/22 07:56 PM

Was that lady whose horses nearly died a new horse owner/hay buyer? About all the horse owners i know are extremely paranoid about the hay they buy. It does get hard to find at times.
Posted By: HayDay

Re: Hay and Straw bales - 07/21/22 10:01 PM

Some of the horse people are very picky........many are not. Buy more on price than quality......most did not grow up on farms and around livestock, so are learning on the job. But once burned, they start paying attention. That was the lady in question. Got one old guy raised on a farm......he has a hillside full of donkeys. Pasture pets. He feeds them well. Another is a vet down the road. I bale their hay for them. Their yardstick is if it looks good, smells good, animal eats it and maintains or gains weight, it's good enough.

The people with dairy goats are more picky than the horse people. Goats are said to eat anything....and may when it's green and growing. But once winter sets in, they get a lot more picky.....goats that is. Milking dairy goats get a lot of high quality alfalfa when available. I don't raise alfalfa. Had some mixed grass and red clover once and lady with milking goats bought all of that I had on the spot.
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