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Per Beaver Price?

Posted By: SGT. C

Per Beaver Price? - 07/26/22 10:15 PM

Who still works this way? For me, it doesn't. Just lost a long term client to per beaver thinking. Had a new person take over and someone convinced them this is the way to go.
For 4 years, they were very satisfied with the results. Here today, gone tomorrow.
I know the area, just don't see how its profitable per beaver with time,gas, maintenance, taxes, insurance.I got the area cleaned up. And now they get the gravy.
Time will tell, if they call next year. Dig deep, real deep in them pockets.
Sarge
Posted By: Bob

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/26/22 10:18 PM

If I were trapping problem beaver here it would not, could not make sense to charge per beaver. There simply isn’t a dense enough population for there to be enough beaver on one property to make that profitable. I’d have to charge $600 a beaver to come out in the black
Posted By: SGT. C

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/26/22 10:24 PM

They wanted $75.00 per beaver. That just doesnt pay the bills. I told them good luck. Didn't burn any bridges
I'd be trapping for free after expenses.
Sarge
Posted By: SNIPERBBB

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/26/22 10:24 PM

Its worth it if you charge enough. Just need to really be good with your ability to estimate the number of beaver in the colony. I like weekly-biweekly flate contracts where possible.
Posted By: SGT. C

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/26/22 10:26 PM

$75 per . No money to be made after expenses.
Posted By: 20scout

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/26/22 10:30 PM

Even at $100 that would be tough to make work.
Posted By: Boco

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/26/22 10:58 PM

All our contracts are $85 per beaver, $ .75 per km with a maximum of 5 trips. $50 per dam removed under mutual agreement,and contracts expire 2 weeks after issue.
Posted By: Boco

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/26/22 11:04 PM

Last time I worked as an agent trapping beaver full time was 2012.
I was paid $28/hr with full benefits including pension,4 days a week,10 hour days and 4 hours overtime per day at time and one half.per diems were $120 per day and everything was paid by the company-truck fuel traps lure and equipment.
Posted By: MChewk

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/26/22 11:36 PM

Sarge, You can’t control how some folks think. Let the beaver do their thing...they will be calling you back.
I raised my rates again and no one has even blinked.
Posted By: SGT. C

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/26/22 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Boco
All our contracts are $85 per beaver, $ .75 per km with a maximum of 5 trips. $50 per dam removed under mutual agreement,and contracts expire 2 weeks after issue.

Originally Posted by Boco
Last time I worked as an agent trapping beaver full time was 2012.
I was paid $28/hr with full benefits including pension,4 days a week,10 hour days and 4 hours overtime per day at time and one half.per diems were $120 per day and everything was paid by the company-truck fuel traps lure and equipment.

Boco, with those numbers and benefits. Then a southern trapper could possibly make a living.
These folks didn't consider mileage or nothing else. No set or take down. Flat 75 from start to finish.
Very tough. I wish them luck. Time will tell. Sarge
Posted By: beaverpeeler

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/26/22 11:41 PM

Personally I think per beaver is a terrible way to do business. Mostly newbies, amateurs and the like will do it that way from what I've seen. I learned long ago to charge for my time and mileage. And no reason to just scrape by....charge enough to make it worthwhile. All the professionals in their fields find out how to make money. Should we be any different?
Posted By: Nessmuck

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 12:01 AM

I raised my rates…

90.00 set up fee

90.00 per head

.65 cent per mile

Don’t travel outside of the 30 minute radius

If traps go quiet for 2 checks …I pull them on the third day and collect my CASH .

No complaints yet…And most say…” Iam happy you showed up !”
Posted By: SGT. C

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Spike369
I was trying to get a trapper to come over and take care of some beavers for me but couldn't get anyone to come get them. I would have paid whatever it cost but ended up doing it myself and breaking the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). Got 4 beaver in two days. 1st time I ever trapped anything. Now I'm hooked on trapping. Coyotes are my next quest. It'll take me a little longer to figure them out I'm sure. Got a lot of bobcats that need to go too. Just watched the fur price update video and it sounds good for bobcats.


Still run into the old thinking. "You'll make money on the hides" I always tell and show the lastest fur market. And they say"its not worth it.
They dont realize its a business, not a hobby. Again, time will tell. Sarge
Posted By: SGT. C

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Nessmuck
I raised my rates…

90.00 set up fee

90.00 per head

.65 cent per mile

Don’t travel outside of the 30 minute radius

If traps go quiet for 2 checks …I pull them on the third day and collect my CASH .

No complaints yet…And most say…” Iam happy you showed up !”


These folks didn't want nor understand theres more then just per beaver. Every time ive run into a price per trapper. They always, and always say. Im not making much, but, it gets me outdoors.
Hobby adventureers, not business people.
Sarge
Posted By: Nessmuck

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 12:22 AM

Yup….I check traps at lunch time…Iam self employed in the Autobody business…so it’s not a full time gig for me. If I can catch a few beaver (180.00) while eating my Sammich at lunch time …got me some B.A.M…..Bumming around money.
Posted By: the Blak Spot

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by SGT. C
$75 per . No money to be made after expenses.

That’s what i charged in the 90’s plus a set up fee
Posted By: Swamp Wolf

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 02:38 AM

Sgt. C,
If you cleaned that place up then that next trapper is gonna be hurting in the wallet in a few days.

I still charge by the beaver for a large timber company (been trapping for this company for more than 2 decades.) I also charge by the beaver for locals within 15 minutes of my residence.

I charge $100/beaver. No setup fee.

Most of my beaver jobs are a flat rate per job with 10 day minimum of trapping (I may have to stay a few more days if spooky beaver, but no extra charge. Works out to +/- $200 per day.

Beaver jobs that are more than an hour from my residence are flat rate plus $1/mile both ways....same time frame.

Dam breaching is free. Dam removal is extra, if I can even do it per site.
Posted By: trapdye

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 03:34 AM

It's tough, Years ago I had a client that I removed Beaver for eight years, I charged at the time 85.00 set up per two traps & 25.00 per each extra trap & 75.00 per Beaver. As everyone knows, Summer trapping is rough. I raised my prices to 125.00 set up & 100.00 per Beaver, I informed him of the price increase. I sent him an invoice & he paid me. Thats the last time I heard from him. This year I had to step up prices again, It's not just fuel prices, It's vehicle up keep & just the cost of everything going up. I see some local companies charge crazy prices, Had a Doctor call me about squirrels chewing thru his fascia board, Said he had a local company put an extruder over a chew hole for three days, Came back & sealed the hole with foam & wire, Gave him a 1,800.00 bill.
Posted By: NWS,LLC

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 04:48 AM

Not going to disclose specific billing structure on a public forum, however I don’t incorporate a setup fee or a per beaver fee.
Posted By: Jurassic Park

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 04:54 AM

I add a $50 trailer hook up fee if it’s an area I need to take the quad in.
Posted By: 8117 Steve R

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 11:47 AM

SGT C, if you had them cleaned up the new trapper will surely lose money getting paid by the beaver. End of problem, he won't be back. By the beaver works ok on large colonies that haven't been trapped in awhile, not so much on new beaver moving in.
Posted By: Trapset

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by 8117 Steve R
SGT C, if you had them cleaned up the new trapper will surely lose money getting paid by the beaver. End of problem, he won't be back. By the beaver works ok on large colonies that haven't been trapped in awhile, not so much on new beaver moving in.


That’s what I was thinking. Land owners usually dont tell you they’ve hade someone else in there before ya. Or that the farm hands have shot a couple after work etc. They usually say “it loaded”. Per critter doesn’t work at all going behind someone.
Posted By: SGT. C

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 12:30 PM

[quote=Swamp Wolf]Sgt. C,
If you cleaned that place up then that next trapper is gonna be hurting in the wallet in a few days.

I still charge by the beaver for a large timber company (been trapping for this company for more than 2 decades.) I also charge by the beaver for locals within 15 minutes of my residence.

I charge $100/beaver. No setup fee.

Most of my beaver jobs are a flat rate per job with 10 day minimum of trapping (I may have to stay a few more days if spooky beaver, but no extra charge. Works out to +/- $200 per day.

Beaver jobs that are more than an hour from my residence are flat rate plus $1/mile sboth ways....same time frame.

Dam breaching is free. Dam removal is extra, if I can even do it per site.

Swamp, your pricing and mine are similar except for per beaver.
This was a 3 lake set up, 110 mile round trip. Plus they also wanted a 6 month maintenace agreement. Guess they forgot about that.
Basically, they wanted it done for nothing.
I also cut my rates for the local jobs. But we both know, here in the south. One must travel to make it at times.
I have an inside guy, i will know how well or not he does and the numbers from each lake.
Keeping a level head and not burning any bridges. My gut tells me it will work out in a year or two. Just cant please everyone all the time. Sarge
Posted By: warrior

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/27/22 02:05 PM

I've never liked a per beaver schedule.

Most of my work has either been trapped before or is spillover from from offsite "greenbelts" in urban areas, read subdivision lakes. So it's new mated pair or one year colonies. The most from one job in the past decade was six. Average over that time, three.

I stress labor not catch when talking to potential clients.

Now if I could ever convince these counties to they need to clean out these swamps they call protected floodplain I might consider a per tail on top of my labor fee. But if I'm sweating I'm getting paid.
Posted By: Swamp Wolf

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/28/22 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by NWS,LLC
Not going to disclose specific billing structure on a public forum, however I don’t incorporate a setup fee or a per beaver fee.

I want folks to know what I charge...if someone can do it cheaper.....I say watch out for the cottonmouths and gators....and have fun.
Posted By: Paul Dobbins

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/28/22 01:59 AM

When I was trapping for a timber company, I charged a flat fee per contract period. There was enough work to keep me busy full time 9 months a year. Using this pricing structure, they knew to the penny what to budget for beaver control, and I knew to the penny what I was going to be paid. It was an annual contract paid monthly. This worked well for the whole 30 years I contracted with them. I do the same for the city that I still have a contract with. I've had this contract for 31 years.
Posted By: warrior

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/28/22 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
When I was trapping for a timber company, I charged a flat fee per contract period. There was enough work to keep me busy full time 9 months a year. Using this pricing structure, they knew to the penny what to budget for beaver control, and I knew to the penny what I was going to be paid. It was an annual contract paid monthly. This worked well for the whole 30 years I contracted with them. I do the same for the city that I still have a contract with. I've had this contract for 31 years.


That's exactly how how I would like to set these jobs up. But between just solve my now problem and only having new pairs I can't get them on longterm contracts even though I have annual clients that call every spring.
Posted By: Boco

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 07/28/22 02:37 AM

Working as an agent for a company like that is a good gig.
Posted By: Aix sponsa

Re: Per Beaver Price? - 08/21/22 04:50 PM

My experience has been that some customers will only hire using a certain type of pricing. Some will only hire per beaver. Some will only hire per hour. Some will only hire when they know exactly how much the total will be. Some are flexible. Some aren’t. Some just want the job done, and some don’t think they should have to pay anything no matter how much work is done. Some will try to solve it themselves before calling you. Some will have family or locals catch all the easy ones while contaminating the area with jars of castor then expect you to catch the last, wise, and possibly injured beaver on the first trip. Some will be patient and understanding. Some may interfere with your work. There’s just such a broad range of customer types.


If they would like it priced a certain way, they should say so. I’ve had some good customers call me and ask me if I would be interested in catching some beavers for a per beaver price. Well.... yeah! I would have done it for less. I would have done it for more. What matters is they made me an offer that allowed me to justify my efforts, and we both knew what to expect.


Some people have no choice how it’s priced for a number of reasons. I’ll work with anyone, depending on what they have, where they have it, and what their expectations are.


If customers and trappers are upfront and open about what their situations and expectations are, just about everything can be worked out in some kind of way.




To answer your question though... While I am open to by the beaver pricing, I usually charge by the trip, multiplied by a reasonable number of trips. Obviously single locations cost more. They have to—customers have seen how expensive everything has become.


These are answers for specific nuisance beaver locations.

Bounty beavers are an entirely different subject.

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