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Bait and lure for muskrats

Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 06:49 AM

What bait do you guys use for rats? I'm thinking of using pumpkins, apples, and carrots this year and was wondering if anyone else had tried these. Also going to be running Rat Checkmate and a few other random lures with the bait and was wondering how you guys stored the lure while driving around in the truck. Thanks in advance!

-TheYouthTrapper
Posted By: Turtledale

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 06:52 AM

For lure I found poplar bud oil works
I store the lure in my coat pocket while trapping
Posted By: Strut10

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 10:25 AM

Always just used a 1/4 of an apple on a stick. Used a drop of Hawbaker's oil apple (don't know if it's even made anymore) on the slice for a while. Not sure it was necessary or helped any more than just the apple slice.
Posted By: 2cylinder

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 11:24 AM

I've used carrots before on triggers of 110s under ice. I've always used lenons or carmans mcl100 as my lure and just keep it in my wader pockets
Posted By: Nittany Lion

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 11:30 AM

Not sure I ever caught a muskrat using bait or lure, I seldom used it. I probably tried it when I was first trapping 65 years ago. Once I learned a little about trapping muskrats I found it wasn't necessary.
Posted By: micheal

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 11:36 AM

Spearmint toothpaste
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 12:00 PM

I just cut a hole out in the bank sit a trap in front of it Collect the rat next morning
Posted By: SNIPERBBB

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Nittany Lion
Not sure I ever caught a muskrat using bait or lure, I seldom used it. I probably tried it when I was first trapping 65 years ago. Once I learned a little about trapping muskrats I found it wasn't necessary.

In most situations its not but sometimes it is when you're in scenarios where you're not setting dens and runs because they don6 exist or not practical to find
Posted By: camlock

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 12:13 PM

Had good results when using floats for rats with dried field corn. Best rat lure I used is Lennons Muskrat super call. (my 2 cents).
Posted By: Kart29

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 12:29 PM

A freshly made mud slide seems to be the best lure. But the boys and I often add a little toothpaste to the set - mostly to make us feel like we are doing something.

I've never had much luck with muskrat bait of any kind.
Posted By: K52

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 12:49 PM

It might be different where you live but if I use any kind of lure on a rat set a coon will be there the next morning, and have the area around the set destroyed. I learned this years ago. I don’t really think my take has been hurt at all by not using lure and it’s one less thing to mess with.
Posted By: The Beav

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 03:18 PM

Here's the way I see It.
You find a rat toilet or feed bed and you set them. Now your only going to catch ONE rat at those locations. But If you make several lured sets close by those locations your going to catch more then ONE rat. Those feed beds and toilets are being used by more then ONE rat.
Posted By: Eagleye

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 03:28 PM

I love Poplar Bud Oil on a Q-Tip and I also use Peppermint- the Beav posted a few years ago on melting lard in a small crock pot until it liquefies and then add peppermint extract. It makes a paste and I also use Anise Oil ... great on pocket sets, remembering to always stake for coons.
Posted By: PAskinner

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 03:39 PM

I very rarely need lure to catch a muskrat. The problem with lure in my area is that any lure that attracts muskrat attracts beavers, and beaver season isn't open most of rat season.
And usually, it's easier to just drop a conibear in a run. Lenon makes a dandy muskrat lure but coon love it too, so fasten your traps well if you use it.
Posted By: bctomcat

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 04:15 PM

No lure needed. Just scrapped carrot or parsnip or sliced apple is bait and lure itself.
Posted By: RHuff

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 07:25 PM

Youthtrapper send me a message with your address and I will send you a couple jars of Lenons I have more than I will use as the rats are not nearly as abundant around here as they uused to be.
Posted By: newhouse114

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 08:37 PM

I trap tidewater, can’t find burrows or runs, apple on a stick works great. I’ve found that semi dried gravenstiens work best, with a tiny bit of rat gland.
Posted By: JTfromWV

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by micheal
Spearmint toothpaste

X2 Get the cheap stuff at the dollar store.
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/08/22 11:48 PM

Open water marshes I use neither. On rivers and streams where I find the longer feed beds under the overhangs I use a homemade lure dipped in a Q tip. I put Q tips in a container with a lid and pour in some lure. I can carry several dozen that way. Under ice body grippers I use colored duct tape, orange works better for me than red, green or white.

Bryce
Posted By: SundanceMtnMan

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 12:36 AM

Apple and bread and butter lure
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by Turtledale
For lure I found poplar bud oil works
I store the lure in my coat pocket while trapping


I was assuming people stored it in their wader/coat pocket but just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing it wrong.
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by Strut10
Always just used a 1/4 of an apple on a stick. Used a drop of Hawbaker's oil apple (don't know if it's even made anymore) on the slice for a while. Not sure it was necessary or helped any more than just the apple slice.


I'm going to be using mainly apples and I'm the same way, I use both bait and lure even though some people just use bait.
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by 2cylinder
I've used carrots before on triggers of 110s under ice. I've always used lenons or carmans mcl100 as my lure and just keep it in my wader pockets


That's what I've seen quite a few guys on youtube running for under the ice.
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by Nittany Lion
Not sure I ever caught a muskrat using bait or lure, I seldom used it. I probably tried it when I was first trapping 65 years ago. Once I learned a little about trapping muskrats I found it wasn't necessary.


I can't find the runs or feedbeds since they just don't exist, I just found my first exit and crossover a couple days ago and that was a surprise.
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by jbyrd63
I just cut a hole out in the bank sit a trap in front of it Collect the rat next morning


Do they think it's a culvert or are they just drawn to it?
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by K52
It might be different where you live but if I use any kind of lure on a rat set a coon will be there the next morning, and have the area around the set destroyed. I learned this years ago. I don’t really think my take has been hurt at all by not using lure and it’s one less thing to mess with.


I would love to find a 10$ coon in one of my floats or hagz sets. The coons have so much food around that they won't go after it unless they really need it.
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by The Beav
Here's the way I see It.
You find a rat toilet or feed bed and you set them. Now your only going to catch ONE rat at those locations. But If you make several lured sets close by those locations your going to catch more then ONE rat. Those feed beds and toilets are being used by more then ONE rat.


That's how I see it as well and that's if I can find a feedbed or run which aren't very common around me.
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by bblwi
Open water marshes I use neither. On rivers and streams where I find the longer feed beds under the overhangs I use a homemade lure dipped in a Q tip. I put Q tips in a container with a lid and pour in some lure. I can carry several dozen that way. Under ice body grippers I use colored duct tape, orange works better for me than red, green or white.

Bryce


I've seen people using surveyor's tape for baited conibears under the ice and it seems deadly.
Posted By: Hunter 1

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 02:50 AM

I keep it very simple, in Spring I snip tip of apple tree branches and put several sticks in peanut butter jar.

No issues with catching coon and the rats go for it in no time. It is cheep and it works.

When setting under ice, I use a carrot on 110 and 120 and set two to three inches under ice surface. I have also set under ice with a piece of carrot wired to pan of on leghold traps (along edge) and also caught them this way.

I don't bother using lures for rats.

Hunter 1
Posted By: Calvin

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by The Beav
Here's the way I see It.
You find a rat toilet or feed bed and you set them. Now your only going to catch ONE rat at those locations. But If you make several lured sets close by those locations your going to catch more then ONE rat. Those feed beds and toilets are being used by more then ONE rat.


Must be different rats over there, Beave. I catch rat after rat on feedbeds and toilets (no lure/bait). I'll take a feedpad over a house any time. Yes, some are one or two (like huts) but just as many are 3 or 4 or 5 rats using that pad. And if that one runs dry quick, another one has usually popped up so it's just a matter of moving the trap. A feedbed is usually much faster to set than a hut, too.

By the time you dink around with rat lure, you could have set another trap. Not to mention tracking down coon that are also attracted to rat lure (probably more than a rat is). And be sure your rat lure doesn't have castor in it (some do). Then you have the issue of beaver in your rat traps.

I quit using rat lures years ago. My catch didn't go down, it went up. That said, every location is different. I see a few places every year that a rat lure "May" help. But those are also coon locations...sooo.

PM me for the best float bait I've used in the dakotas Youthtrapper. Nobody has ever touched on it here. Carrots are a poor rat bait, IMO. They do attract rats, but rats really don't like them once they bite into them much...which granted is usually too late.
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by The Beav
Here's the way I see It.
You find a rat toilet or feed bed and you set them. Now your only going to catch ONE rat at those locations. But If you make several lured sets close by those locations your going to catch more then ONE rat. Those feed beds and toilets are being used by more then ONE rat.


Must be different rats over there, Beave. I catch rat after rat on feedbeds and toilets (no lure/bait). I'll take a feedpad over a house any time. Yes, some are one or two (like huts) but just as many are 3 or 4 or 5 rats using that pad. And if that one runs dry quick, another one has usually popped up so it's just a matter of moving the trap. A feedbed is usually much faster to set than a hut, too.

By the time you dink around with rat lure, you could have set another trap. Not to mention tracking down coon that are also attracted to rat lure (probably more than a rat is). And be sure your rat lure doesn't have castor in it (some do). Then you have the issue of beaver in your rat traps.

I quit using rat lures years ago. My catch didn't go down, it went up. That said, every location is different. I see a few places every year that a rat lure "May" help. But those are also coon locations...sooo.

PM me for the best float bait I've used in the dakotas Youthtrapper. Nobody has ever touched on it here. Carrots are a poor rat bait, IMO. They do attract rats, but rats really don't like them once they bite into them much...which granted is usually too late.


Around me we don't see very many toilets or feedbeds, so a lot of the time you have no choice but to use lure/bait. Pm sent.
Posted By: patrapperbuster

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 06:42 PM

[quote=TheYouthTrapper]What bait do you guys use for rats? I'm thinking of using pumpkins, apples, and carrots this year and was wondering if anyone else had tried these. Also going to be running Rat Checkmate and a few other random lures with the bait and was wondering how you guys stored the lure while driving around in the truck. Thanks in advance!



A farmer that grows pumpkins dumps some near a creek & muskrats chew holes in them so they like them. I personally dont use lure for muskrats anymore because it draws too many coons
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by patrapperbuster
[quote=TheYouthTrapper]What bait do you guys use for rats? I'm thinking of using pumpkins, apples, and carrots this year and was wondering if anyone else had tried these. Also going to be running Rat Checkmate and a few other random lures with the bait and was wondering how you guys stored the lure while driving around in the truck. Thanks in advance!



A farmer that grows pumpkins dumps some near a creek & muskrats chew holes in them so they like them. I personally dont use lure for muskrats anymore because it draws too many coons


A lot of guys seem to have issues with coons and muskrat lure, luckily they hang out in the tree belts and stay away from sloughs most of the time.
Posted By: blackoak

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 11:13 PM

Take your boot and stomp out a spot along the water's edge that will hold a number 1 long spring put it on a slide wire to drown and throw a hand full of field corn on it. You will catch both rats and coons
Posted By: patrapperbuster

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/09/22 11:51 PM

Under ice or underwater I have used slices of peeled potato on 110 triggers
Posted By: The Beav

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/10/22 12:42 AM

Most baits like potatoes and apples lose their color pretty fast once under water. Sure they work but a better choice would be using some of that plastic corrugated sign material. It slides right on to the trigger wires and It's water proof and holds It's color well.
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/10/22 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by The Beav
Most baits like potatoes and apples lose their color pretty fast once under water. Sure they work but a better choice would be using some of that plastic corrugated sign material. It slides right on to the trigger wires and It's water proof and holds It's color well.


Like what the political signs are made out of?
Posted By: The Beav

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/10/22 12:44 AM

Yes
Posted By: TheYouthTrapper

Re: Bait and lure for muskrats - 08/10/22 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by The Beav
Yes


That's a good idea, I know some people use them to make mink pans but never thought of this.
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