Random Drug Screening

What is the chance we can get a politician to do away with this?

I think random drug screening should be mandatory for all politicians.

I’d rather they have to pass a common sense test.

im suprised there hasnt been a discrimination case on this already. or class action suit.

As far as commerce is concerned, NADA. Most companies are required, or have, State and Federal Safety Guidelines that "must"(?) be adhered to in order to maintain such business. . . . plus, the gov. makes $$$$ off "mandatory" training for employees.

Have been doing it for decades. Never had a problem. I can see how it bothers some people. Wouldn't bother me either way whether they do away with it or not

There are problems with guilty until proven innocent random testing, however if there is a job related accident, or drawing taxpayer money for welfare, or blatant in your face drug activity at work....Test away!

I assume your asking for interstate truck drivers?

I don't really see an issue with Randoms it is an inconvenience I am sure for the drivers

and I agree politicians should to prove they are clean same as truckers and pilots , huge amount of public responsibility there.

an issue now is most factories here you get a "random" when you get hurt or have an accident other than that they don't want to know they wouldn't have half their labor if they needed to be clean all the time.

Drug testing politicians is as likely as an honest election.

What I’ve seen is most that don’t want it can’t pass it ! Just saying

jbyrd what makes you think it works?

google pass a urine drug test

It was created by insurance companies as a way to welch out o paying insurance claims and gave businesses and government's discount insurance rates if they implemented it for them.

I they were serious and wanted to reduce accidents they would test them to see if they were smoking cigarettes or on their cell phone, or a drunk.

I doubt there have been more than a few accidents truly caused by drugs. High people dont drive much and do much better than drunks.

they were passed to make old women think they are safer

LOL, one of my brothers was fleet manager for quite a few years, 400 truck fleet.

Said he found drug stuff quite often, and worse yet, evidence of lot lizard liaisons...

I don't know how random they are, at where I used to work the only people that got tested were those that there was zero doubt that they would pass and they seemed to get tested regularly, the questionable ones seemed to never come up on the random list, they were just fortunate I guess.

When I was in the Coast Guard Reserve, we had random urine testing quarterly. A clerk from the office would draw three numbers from a hat. If your SS# ended in any of those three numbers, you were given a bottle to pee into. By year-end, all numbers were selected. As the only officer in the unit, I submitted my sample every quarter to avoid any questions of favoritism.

I had about 15 enlisted members in my small coastal unit. Nobody ever failed. I was later transferred to a large unit in an inland city. One member failed the HIV blood test, but it was never made public. He stopped attending drills and we were told not to contact him. Headquarters told him to see his personal doctor. He later received a discharge. Don't recall any drug failures at all. We had a zero tolerance level for testing. I retired in 1994. I wonder if zero tolerance is still enforced.

We sometimes retrieved bales of marijuana out of the ocean a few times a fisherman would bring us a bale that they found at sea. It was not uncommon for us to receive instructions to go to a set of coordinates and drift or patrol for hours at a time. We had to wear armored vests and life preservers at all times. They were both hot and bulky. A three or four-man crew would carry a .45 pistol, an M-16, and a Rem 870 shotgun loaded with Federal 2 3/4" 00 buckshot. The shotgun was carried with a loaded magazine and an empty barrel. We boarded every vessel we assisted regardless of the nature of the call for assistance. We randomly boarded a few other vessels when directed.

Truth

It shouldn't be up to the government to tell business whether they can drug test. I, for one, welcome drug testing. It lessons the odds that I have my safety and possible life in the hands of some idiot druggie that obviously couldn't care less about his own life, let alone mine. I like to go home at the end of the day, not the hospital or the morgue. Pretty simple, if you don't like drug testing, find a job where they don't have it.

I’ve been passing them for 40 years for all the “must be guilty” folks. Wasn’t so much an inconvenience when I didn’t have a whole lot going on but all those years of working my (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) off has come to bear fruit and I have a lot on my plate, especially the things I enjoy. It has come to light that the necessity to have it does not outweigh the Right to be free from it.

I use to be onboard with this opinion however, if you are working a job and someone is impaired, what’s the difficulty in saying, “I ain’t working with Johnny Joint for lunch because my safety would be in jeopardy?”

There isn’t a company out there that would dismiss someone’s safety concern this day and age.

Does any of this random testing include prescription drug testing ?

You have to disclose any meds you are taking. The sample gets atomized and the test counts ppb. If you are abusing your script, it will show in the count.

I think they should be able to search your house and cars without a warrant.Hey,if you haven't anything to hide.Isnt that right jbyrd?

Test all the people on the public dole first.

We could save billions in benefit costs.

Never happen , but it's a great idea.

Democrat's wet dream right there.

i dont want it and i can pass it any day. i refrain from use because of it, but i dont feel pot has any more lasting effect on job performance than alcohol does. what i do on friday or saturday night has no bearing on work performance monday morning.

When they first started talking about it I worried about false positives. I have yet to meet anybody I believed say they got a false positive. It is just another feel good ineffective money waster though.

That guy in the back row of the Petro on I65 just south of Elizabethtown KY, up all night smoking meth with a couple of the fancy ladies is out there. His electronic log says he was shut down for 10 hours even though he never slept. In his shaving kit is a bottle of artificial pee he bought online to pass the drug test. He sticks it down in his under wear a couple hours before he goes in for his drug test so temperature is good. If he doesnt have time for that he warms it on the defroster then sticks it in his pants so it will adjust faster.

Eventually he will crash and get checked then lose his license. Unfortunately all to often Johnny crack head lives and some mom with kids dies.

Meanwhile the preponderance of guys just earning an honest living have to put up with electronic logs and drug tests even though they are not the problem.

Just like gun control doesn't do anything to alleviate violent crime, electronic logs and drug tests are not getting deadbeats out of big trucks.

Very well said, Danny.

i do not in any way condone drug use while driving/working. my point is, a brain surgeon could smoke a joint right before doing his job & docs dont get whiz quized. there are a lot more sensitive jobs than guiding a truck down the road that arent subject to mandatory drug testing. im not talking about hard drugs or road dope that keeps your eyes open all night, just weed.

There are a lot more drugs out there than pot that they check for.

correct. as i said, not talking hard drugs.
recreational weed is legal in about as many states as not, an adult can legally attain it from a dispensary and use it responsibly in the privacy of their own home, when off duty. yet if you get tested any time in the next 30 days or so, your guilty. i dont mind at all being tested for any other drug, but weed doesnt need to be on the ban list. come up with a test that shows someone is under the influence on the spot. (same as a breathylizer does for alcohol) not in the last month.

It's a waste of time completely and should have been done away with a long time ago. If there is an accident, the police will take whoever the public employee is to get drug tested if that person gives permission and/or is forced. If somebody can do a job as long as they aren't coming to work buzzed up, I could care less what they do on their free time. We got a lot more important stuff to worry about, although I will say that it has done a lot of "preventative drug use" in terms of somebody not wanting to lose their job. As far as what drugs they test for, it all depends, but you can be sure that they aren't just testing for anything and everything, not how it works.

DOT is a 10 panel screening, cocaine, marijuana, PCP, amphetamines, opiates, benzodiazepines, barbiturates, methadone, propoxyphene, and quaaludes.

Well finster I know a truck driver that would appreciate it if all drivers were drug tested, So you know all the truck drivers could get home alive also. If you test one, test them all. Personally, I never have and never will.

Accidents can not be prevented by testing people after the accident. What is the logic in testing post-accident when drug use is forbidden to start with? You can't be a little bit guilty when someone is maimed or killed.

Life comes with risk. At what point does giving up liberty in the hope of reducing risk, make you a slave? At what point do you realize that risk is not being reduced and your just giving up liberty?

I can pass a valid drug test any day of the year.....bring it.

If you are really asking, it has taken me years.

If you’re sucking off the gobbnit tit i think you need tested.

Great idea !!Except NONE of them would know what common sense was even if it was beating the on the head with a ground shovel.!!

I have been passing randoms for 40 years.
Our whole company gets tested.
If there is an accident, they go to get tested right away.
Have had 2 people test positive this year that I know of. Then they can either be done or pay for a program and get random tested at their expense for 6 months.
Anyone getting handouts should also be tested in my opinion.

Random drug screening is really no big rat killing deal.
Just go pee in a cup.
Funny I was asked to take a sort of slow coworker worker with me one time so he knew they wern't picking on him.
just

drop a frog in a pot of boiling water, it'll jump out & hop away, but if you put it in warm water & slowly turn up the heat, it'll stay right there & die.
thats what happens to your rights & freedom too. a little bit at a time & nobody even notices. all in the name of safety.