Russias hypersonic missile

So..... Seen peoel freaking out about Russias new hypersonic missile..... apparently we don't have anything close enough to be able to take care of one ......well decided to do some looking and....


Which ok neat that sure is formidable.....but...y'all remember Operation Burnt Frost ?


That satellite as going 7.3km per sec which converts to....


......anddd we shot that thing down.....in 2008.....


.....now of course this was planned pretty precisely with a lot of planning and all, and I'm no sure what's the cruising altitude of this thing ... I figure if it can go low enough it could definitely be more of a problem especially with the fact it can be steered .....but.... Again we shot down that Satellite....in 2008 am I the only one just sitting here thinking about the MASSIVE black budget the US spends on defense project and is just like.... "Mmmmkay" ? Like I'm 98% sure we have some stuff now that could knock that sucker out without too much trouble.... All the whole one of the multiple subs we have constantly tailing these ships will probably give them a nice little reminder about their presence .... Anyhow

During Reagans "star wars" days I was driving to Las Cruces N.M. one night. Over the Organ Mountain pass. Directly above White Sands Missile base and just south of Holloman A.F.B. I saw what looked like a column of blue light come up from the desert. Not a pin point like a pistol sight laser but a column. Yet the column was just that. The size was constant like a laser. There have been people working on missile defense for a LONG time. They been working on offense too. For a long time. Lets hope it never happens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative

Was out in the field around and went to the white sands base a good little bit when we where at bliss and around the Donna Anna facility and, lotta , interesting looking buildings and folks there, they got some good stuff cooking no doubt

I suspect that with technology involved n CB fire that it is possible to defend against something like a hypersonic missile. It would require one heck of an intelligence system to detect, analyze and feed data to fire control systems. The millimeter wave radar on the AH64 Longbow is probably the best we have....but it needs to be airborne to be effective.


We know it's possible to shoot down cruise missiles from an aircraft but probably will work better to take an incoming head on rather than try to catch it from behind in the case of a HS missile.

Pretty easy to take down a satellite where the trajectory is known. More difficult on a cruise type missile hidden the terrain clutter and changing course to avoid terrain.

But what little I know about hypersonic missiles, I have the impression they have to leave the atmosphere and re-enter to achieve the maximum speed. IF that's the case, that would make them more vulnerable, especially in the boost phase

Saw on Drudge Report today that we have a warship in the Black Sea.

There used to be a thread several years ago about Russian submarines; Mr. Kelsey chimed in on it. I tried finding it but couldn't find it in the archives.

Anyway, I wonder if we know where Russia's subs are and I also wonder if they know where our subs are? Military submarine stuff amazes me. Super sneaky!

Everybody knows where everybody is at . . . no such thing as secret anymore.

Why is our govt, both D and R, h*ll bent of starting a war with Russia?

Wouldn't surprise me at all to see fjb make a case for it tonight.

The zircon is not a ballistic missile. Thus you can not pre calculate its trajectory. It is steered till impact. It would be like trying to intercept an F18 with a piper cub being armed with a hammer.

How big is its payload? if it can be steered the control signal can be jammed

If you are scared to fight you have already lost.
A war or a bar fight-same thing.

You are absolutely right!! You really think we actually spend 20,000 dollars on a hammer???? Those Hammer funds are what came out with Stealths and other things we do not know about!!!

Not any Americans scared to fight Boco, rather just tired of fighting endless wars that we never win in order to keep people rich.

We've been at war nearly my entire life. F Ukraine, if they want "their" so called country, then they can fight for it.

We'd be better off fighting the cartels here.

Good post chancey

Boco, your statement: "If you are scared to fight you have already lost. A war or a bar fight-same thing." appears to indicate, IMO, that you have not been in a bar fight, the military, or a war. Read Sun Tzu "The Art of War" sometime.

Not to worried about how fast Russia's missiles fly; they can't out run the speed of light, yet. Lol

Fighting is a lot like trapping,you wont learn much by reading about it,compared to doing it,lol.

So tell me Boco, how much fighting in either scenario mentioned have you done versus reading about it?

Enough to learn a few things is all I can say.Learned from a young age from family.Learned the mind quickness in theory and practice.Thats the most important part-Quickness in the mind.Makes for decisivness of action with no hesitation.
You?

Then you've told me nothing. Me? . . . been there, done that in all of them, and then more than I'd care to mention. . . . no further comment needed.

what do they need a hypersonic missile for. Just send over a ballon......

Is Mr. Cameron Kelsey still on here? I hope so, we are lucky to have his insight.

Don't quote me on this but I seem to remember that it can carry a single warhead of 5 to 20 Kt ...... I am guessing here that it will fly a preset route with a couple if zigs and zags thrown in that alone would make it impossible to calculate an intercept point to take it down. Just a few minor cause changes along its route would be enough to do that ( talking a couple of degree left and right now and then, nothing drastic)

At the end of the day it makes little difference as Russia would not survive the echo. So they get to live 30 minutes longer than us. I would not exactly call that a big win.

30 minutes is enough time to finish a cigar.

Hypersonic missiles are fast yes but they fly at an undetermined path typically close to the ground probably to avoid radars. I belive we unveiled our version this past year and before that we also had fast (missiles) and undetermined path missiles.

It makes little difference really. Our team went a different route and uses stealth technology. So in the unlikely event of a first strike by the US, the Russians won't know they are under attack till the see those big mushroom clouds pop up if said strike is started using the stealth bomber fleet. So they won't know that they are smoking their last cigar. But as I said earlier, in the big picture it makes little difference as there will be enough nukes going off in any of the theoretical scenarios to destroy the world a few times over.