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Posted By: 330-Trapper

Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 08:50 AM

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Old-school lumberjacks who fell giant trees, 1889.
Posted By: kytrapper

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 09:00 AM

That was back when men were men and women were women.
Posted By: Trapper Dahlgren

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 10:28 AM

great old pic smile
Posted By: 160user

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by kytrapper
That was back when men were men and women were women.


Actually, that was back when men were men and the women were too! Great photo.
Posted By: crosspatch

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 11:06 AM

Would love to see how they moved that after. How big a lenghs, if split and how.
Posted By: kytrapper

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 11:14 AM

What is the diamond shaped piece in the middle of the log cut?
Posted By: Michael Lippold

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 11:23 AM

The size of those trees is just mind blowing to me, can’t imagine standing next to one, let alone cutting it down with hand saws
Posted By: Crowfoot

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by kytrapper
What is the diamond shaped piece in the middle of the log cut?


The tools of the logging trade pictured here are a double-bladed axe, cross cut saw, (also known as a misery whip), springboard, and gunstick. The area where the men are lying is the uncut and was made by the two choppers with axes. The gunstick is the scissors like tool that would have been used to make the final depth and angle adjustments to the undercut so that the tree fell in the desired location. Once the undercut was complete, two men would use a cross-cut saw to make a backcut (on the opposite side of the tree) so that the tree would topple from the stump. Any mistakes and the tree could fall in an unintended direction possibly causing injury or death to the logging crew.
Posted By: Pawnee

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 12:41 PM

Great pic. Those trees are on the top of my list of things I want to see before I kick the bucket.
Posted By: Saskfly

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 12:44 PM

Looks like a couple cord of wood at the base of the tree just cutting it down.
Posted By: k snow

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Crowfoot
Originally Posted by kytrapper
What is the diamond shaped piece in the middle of the log cut?


The tools of the logging trade pictured here are a double-bladed axe, cross cut saw, (also known as a misery whip), springboard, and gunstick. The area where the men are lying is the uncut and was made by the two choppers with axes. The gunstick is the scissors like tool that would have been used to make the final depth and angle adjustments to the undercut so that the tree fell in the desired location. Once the undercut was complete, two men would use a cross-cut saw to make a backcut (on the opposite side of the tree) so that the tree would topple from the stump. Any mistakes and the tree could fall in an unintended direction possibly causing injury or death to the logging crew.


Thanks for the explanation. Would they also make side notches due to the saw being shorter than the diameter of the tree? I believe I have seen old photos of that.
Posted By: Leftlane

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by crosspatch
Would love to see how they moved that after. How big a lenghs, if split and how.



I agree. Doing any of that without modern heavy equipment would seem all but impossible
Posted By: Northof50

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 01:41 PM

Good explanation on the GUNSTICK
physics and geometry working at it's finest moment
Posted By: lumberjack391

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 02:24 PM

Yea......like they would re-chop the notch if it was a couple inches off LOL. I believe those were used just to see where it is going to go. Screw that- send it.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Crowfoot
Originally Posted by kytrapper
What is the diamond shaped piece in the middle of the log cut?


The tools of the logging trade pictured here are a double-bladed axe, cross cut saw, (also known as a misery whip), springboard, and gunstick. The area where the men are lying is the uncut and was made by the two choppers with axes. The gunstick is the scissors like tool that would have been used to make the final depth and angle adjustments to the undercut so that the tree fell in the desired location. Once the undercut was complete, two men would use a cross-cut saw to make a backcut (on the opposite side of the tree) so that the tree would topple from the stump. Any mistakes and the tree could fall in an unintended direction possibly causing injury or death to the logging crew.

Thanks for explaining
Posted By: upstateNY

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Pawnee
Great pic. Those trees are on the top of my list of things I want to see before I kick the bucket.

Same here.
Posted By: Cragar

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by Pawnee
Great pic. Those trees are on the top of my list of things I want to see before I kick the bucket.

Same here.

A must see. I was there to see them in person years ago. Pictures do them no justice.
Posted By: BernieB.

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 03:00 PM

There is quite a sense of wonder when you are among trees like that. I remember driving through a hole in a large tree when I was on vacation with family as a child. I also remember as late as the 1980's when there was a slice of a large tree at a rest area in Washington. They had marked the rings with specific historical dates, such as 1776, 1492, the birth of Christ, etc. Some of those trees are over 2,000 years old.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 03:15 PM

Someday maybe
Posted By: 3 Fingers

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/03/23 06:06 PM

Imagine one of those falling across your trail. Very cool picture. Thanks
Posted By: JTfromWV

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/04/23 12:04 AM

What did they do with it once it hit the ground? It would take a pretty good team of mules to move those logs.
Posted By: beaverpeeler

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/04/23 02:49 AM

Pictures don't even come close to the awe you will feel seeing them in person. I've been in the redwood groves three or four times over the years. The first time in the 60's as a kid on family vacation.
Posted By: Northof50

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/04/23 03:15 AM

Wonder if any of those fellers came down with " cedar lung ' caused by the thujaplicatin in that tree
you can see the tree healed itself at the core with that dark rot showing
Posted By: Pawnee

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/04/23 05:02 AM

So where is the best place (State park) to go see them?
Posted By: beaverpeeler

Re: Old History photo # 90 - 03/04/23 05:16 AM

There are various groves along the redwood highway in northern California close to the Oregon border. These are the coastal redwoods the world's tallest (Sequoia sempervirens). The other California monster is the giant sequoia Sequoiadendron giganteum. It is found around 5000 feet in the Sierra Nevada. The most famous specimen being "The General" which has more cubic feet of wood than any other tree recorded if I'm not mistaken.
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