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Posted By: hrdtoflw

Pond edge weed management - 12/29/23 10:13 PM

We purchased a new property last year. It was vacant for 2 years before we bought it. The 4 acre pond has a rip rap bank completely around the pond. In areas, it is about 6’ wide at full level.
I am wanting to know if any T-Man members have experience with herbicides, that are safe for fish. For now, I have been weed whacking out spots to fish from, but that is an endless task!
I have a pond management guy on board for this coming spring, but I only want them to help with aquatic weeds and fish population control.
So, do any of you spray weeds at a ponds edge, and if so, what do you use as a herbicide?[Linked Image]
This aerial photo was taken before the weeds grew up around the pond edge. The pond perimeter is right at .35 miles, so it is way too much for me to go at with a weed eater! Lol
Posted By: DaveP

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/29/23 10:23 PM

Are they aquatic weeds OR weeds at pond edge?
Submerged, emergent or terrestrial?

I use gylphosate at pond edges and on emergents.
Posted By: hrdtoflw

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/29/23 10:33 PM

The weeds are not in the water, but in the rock edge protection. Is Glyphosate safe for fish, and people eating the fish?
Posted By: Cooncuff

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/29/23 10:59 PM

Aqua neat.......... https://www.domyown.com/aqua-neat-aquatic-herbicide-p-3942.html
Posted By: trappingthomas

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/29/23 11:40 PM

Wanted to buy a flame thrower the other day and wife said no. That is one of the marketing points they made. Killing pond edge plants.
Posted By: hrdtoflw

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 12:07 AM

I have weed burners, and may do that. I just don’t want to cause the fire department a trip to my house. If they were burned, it would be much easier to spray the new growth.
Thanks Cooncuff, I will check that out!
Posted By: Providence Farm

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 12:37 AM

I always helped my neighbor burn his. Bucket water and soak a stopping point 1 mow it as close as we could get then light it on fire going against the wind so it advances more slowly.

I'm not a fam of chemicals. I also prefer fishing from a boat.
Posted By: hrdtoflw

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 12:51 AM

We do fish from a boat also, but I need to get a little bit bigger boat. The 1236 that we use just kills my back sitting to low, and it would be too tippy if a higher seat was used! The youngsters love it though.
I have been contemplating burning as you said, but they would just come back really quick. I also, am leary of chemicals, because the little ones swim in the pond!
Posted By: Wallace

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 01:02 AM

Glyphosate is safe for use in and around ponds. But you want to use " Rodeo" which is for aquatic use and not Round-up.
Posted By: GREENCOUNTYPETE

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 01:35 AM

if you have a lot of large tall growth right now it needs to get cut and or burned or it will just be in the way of any other solution

mow as close as you can to the riprap make sure that gets blown away

weed whack fire breaks at the 4 corners for about 25 feet

get help and burn a side at a time when there is no wind and it has not been too dry
Posted By: Cooncuff

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 01:46 AM

hrdtoflw.... many government agencies use Aquaneat and they have a call the pros number if you have any questions. Sounds pricey but it's a comcentrate and mixed it will make like 15 gallons so actually it's fairly reasonable. The DNR told me to use it on my pond so doe what it's worth...Mark
Posted By: hrdtoflw

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 01:54 AM

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the advice!
Posted By: Ric

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 03:39 AM

Aqua Neat... Is aquatic labeled Glyphosate
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 12:15 PM

Great Thread
Posted By: DaveP

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 12:35 PM

Make sure it has a surfactant in it, or add some.
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 01:26 PM

4 acres? What’s the depth on average? Reason I’m asking is you can get the PPM IF you were dumping the chemicals straight into the water Which you won’t be
. If you take a hot day and no rain for 3 days I’d bet it won’t hurt to use any herbicide. Don’t have to use much to kill it. 1 oz per gallon in a spray. Then diluted by estimated gallons in pond. Doubt you will be pushing contamination limits
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 01:36 PM

[Linked Image]

Round up is fine to use around the edges. Not recommended for use IN the pond to control AQUATIC plants
Posted By: Wright Brothers

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 01:44 PM

I miss the good ole American sickle-bar.
Posted By: DaveP

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
I miss the good ole American sickle-bar.



That's what I used BEFORE I applied glyphosate.
Knock.it down, rake it out/ up.
Wait for new growth, then apply midmorning on a hot,sunny, WINDLESS day.

Plus, didn't have rocks around ponds, lol
Posted By: hrdtoflw

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by jbyrd63
4 acres? What’s the depth on average? Reason I’m asking is you can get the PPM IF you were dumping the chemicals straight into the water Which you won’t be
. If you take a hot day and no rain for 3 days I’d bet it won’t hurt to use any herbicide. Don’t have to use much to kill it. 1 oz per gallon in a spray. Then diluted by estimated gallons in pond. Doubt you will be pushing contamination limits


I really don’t have any clue what the average depth would be. About 20’ in the deepest area. The pond was built with a purpose in mind. The area around the dock is shallow, for bluegill beds. Other areas have flats of varying depths with brush piles for the fish, and minnows to hide. The water clarity is clear as seen in the photo.
Not a good place to hide a body, due to the entire bottom being visible on google earth! Lol
My goal is to turn this into a great fishing hole. There are too many small bass, with a few 11” to 12” crappie. The conservation dept. told me not to remove bass, until I know more about the crappie.
Crappie spawn about a month before the bass, then the bass clean up the crappie fry. In all reality, crappie should have never been put in this pond, and I will remove them as I catch them!
Posted By: DaveP

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 06:15 PM

Check out pondboss.com.
It's the trapperman of pond construction and management.
Posted By: jbyrd63

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 06:32 PM

I wouldn’t pay what they ask for aqua roundup Especially if you have the regular. Pick a few sunny warm days and spray. With that much water no danger of over spray having enough concentration to harm fish.
As for crappie I disagree with you on ha them in a pond. Lot of fun for kids. Plus add food for the bass. As for taking bsss if you fish half a day and only catch 10-12 in bass you need to take some out
Posted By: Drifter

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 07:57 PM

Not to hijack but will this work on sweet gum around the edge as well
Posted By: DaveP

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/30/23 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Drifter
Not to hijack but will this work on sweet gum around the edge as well



Not the best, but will work, and probably a better choice tight to pond.
Posted By: Donnersurvivor

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/31/23 12:12 AM

This would be a great job for goats. I offer goat grazing for projects like this, chemical free and pretty effective.
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/31/23 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
This would be a great job for goats. I offer goat grazing for projects like this, chemical free and pretty effective.


That was my thought as well. Just yesterday, I was talking to a friend of mine who uses goats and geese to keep the weeds and willows controlled around his pond. It gives it a manicured look.

Keith
Posted By: warrior

Re: Pond edge weed management - 12/31/23 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by DaveP
Originally Posted by Drifter
Not to hijack but will this work on sweet gum around the edge as well



Not the best, but will work, and probably a better choice tight to pond.


Gum can be tough to get a good burn down on gum if doing a foliar spray. Try adding a bit of surfactant to the mix. Dawn soap is a cheap option. But hack and squirt works better than foliar.
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