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Posted By: AJE
Butterfly house - 09/01/24 04:14 AM
I've been thinking about getting a butterfly house. I wonder if they work
I saw 1 at Hardware Hank today for only $15. I didn't buy it, but I am thinking about it. Maybe some of you have suggestions for effective houses
Posted By: Vinke
Re: Butterfly house - 09/01/24 06:05 AM
The butterfly farm does not have any artificial homes.
Sooooo,,,,, now I am wondering were do they sleep?
Posted By: AJE
Re: Butterfly house - 09/08/24 03:22 AM
Good question.
Posted By: Mark K
Re: Butterfly house - 09/08/24 11:19 AM
Posted By: elsmasho82
Re: Butterfly house - 09/08/24 02:38 PM
What a pretty design! I never knew such things existed
Posted By: EdP
Re: Butterfly house - 09/08/24 06:36 PM
I would think wasps would love it.
Posted By: Drakej
Re: Butterfly house - 09/08/24 10:15 PM
If you really want to try one plan to put it out in the late fall and take it down late spring otherwise unwanted insect WILL use it in the summer. If it is open inside place a few chunks of rough bark in it to loosely fill. If any of the few species that hibernate in your area deem to use it they will squeeze between then for the winter. I had very limited use of the ones I put out and consider them a novelty and at the very bottom of the list of things to do to help butterflies. Flowers(or food not all butterflies eat nectar), water and Host plants top my list which are severely dwindling in our monoculture herbicide sprayed AG world.
Posted By: KeithC
Re: Butterfly house - 09/09/24 12:37 AM
The experts all say that butterfly houses don't work. I suspect, that if you packed them with a lot of wood, some caterpillars would build a chrysalis in them, like they do in wood piles and rock piles, which work better. Butterfly houses are basically just decorations like garden gnome houses.
Keith
Posted By: Pawnee
Re: Butterfly house - 09/09/24 12:42 AM
I would think wasps would love it.
I wounder the same. Seems like it would be full of mud daubers around here. Cool idea if it works
Posted By: Vinke
Re: Butterfly house - 09/09/24 12:57 AM
Posted By: AJE
Re: Butterfly house - 09/16/24 01:51 AM
Hmm. Well, I guess I wasted $15.
Posted By: Drakej
Re: Butterfly house - 09/16/24 04:07 PM
No effort to learn/help is really wasted. Have had a few morning cloak winter in the decorative one my wife still likes in the garden. I wouldn’t say enough to save population decline by any significance. Other insects do make use of. If it is deep enough to stack with at least 6” lengths of approx 5/16” hollow tubes/reeds with at least 1/2” between tubes and inside of slotted front you could covert it to Mason bee house. Mason bee tubes need to be 6”deep or more to get any female bees as they build egg chamber one in front of the other with the front 4/5 being all male(which nature has judged as more expendable to predation to protect females a downside of polygomy). Size of house from the pic is hard to judge. You could try standing tubes vertically, not a common configuration used in many mason bee house designs but I have seen them use vertical spaces and natural hollow stems that are. Mason bees are highly efficient NATIVE pollinators and greatly in need of conservation efforts.
Posted By: gcs
Re: Butterfly house - 09/16/24 05:05 PM
I've wasted more money than 15 bucks on stuff I hoped worked,,...lol
Posted By: AJE
Re: Butterfly house - 11/06/24 04:18 AM
I'll know more next year.
Posted By: Fisher Man
Re: Butterfly house - 11/06/24 03:29 PM
Waste of money
Posted By: BigBob
Re: Butterfly house - 11/06/24 07:56 PM
If it really doesn't work, try opening the a slot a bit to let small birds in to nest.
Posted By: M.Magis
Re: Butterfly house - 11/06/24 09:57 PM
Someone, somewhere, the first person to label and sell a box as a “butterfly house” is laughing hysterically. Its bizzare what people will believe.
Posted By: LAtrapper
Re: Butterfly house - 11/06/24 11:45 PM
Posted By: Dirty D
Re: Butterfly house - 11/07/24 12:09 AM
I read that article. I have a bone to pick with it. It lists 5 different Milkweeds. In the end it lists Butterfly weed, another type of milkweed. It claims that Monarchs won't make use of it unless its the only milkweed around. The opposite is my experience. We have a couple that grow in a garden by the house. even tho there are common milkweeds in the nearby prairie plantings and lots of poke milkweed in the woods they hit the butterfly weed the hardest. I have pulled 35 caterpillars off one plant. I put the caterpillars on the common milkweed plants as they do destroy the butterfly weed if left to their own.
I think that it makes a different where you are. What the monarchs like in WI might be different than Texas. Not all the same species are in both places. And maybe they taste different depending upon soil and moisture.
Posted By: AJE
Re: Butterfly house - 12/08/24 04:40 AM
If it really doesn't work, try opening the a slot a bit to let small birds in to nest.
I wouldn't doubt birds or bees would like to use it
Posted By: AJE
Re: Butterfly house - 12/12/24 03:46 AM
With monarchs soon to be possibly listed as Threatened, I'll do what I can to help them on my property.
Posted By: AJE
Re: Butterfly house - 12/24/24 09:20 PM
Here it is:
Posted By: Bob Jameson
Re: Butterfly house - 12/25/24 12:35 AM
You would be hard pressed to build one for that cost. It would take some time and skill to build one of those not mentioning having access to the materials to build one. I have had a few but never have seen butterflies coming and going for them.
Posted By: Drakej
Re: Butterfly house - 12/25/24 02:16 AM
To my knowledge “butterfly houses” are to help provide wintering place for those few species that hibernate thru winters. Proper location is key and MAY only be used if other better natural sites don’t already exist. They are of no aid to Monarchs. Encouraging or planting as much milkweeds as you can is better. And this will only help if enough is sustained with habitat along their migration routes and not wiped out by ag pesticides or destruction of safe wintering grounds. Much currently being overgrazed by cattle that eat them like popcorn when they temporarily fall to the ground from their tree roosts on cold mornings.
Posted By: AJE
Re: Butterfly house - 12/29/24 06:29 AM
I'm not optimistic but am giving it a chance nonetheless.
There are a lot of species of butterfllies. I'm unsure how different each type acts or if most make good pollinators
Posted By: Drakej
Re: Butterfly house - 12/29/24 07:18 PM
I'm not discouraging any effort to aid wildlife because I've tried most everything just passing along my experiences and info gathered on my efforts. Mourning Cloak and Comma are the two most common wintering butterflies in our/your area. My wildlife improvement efforts have been most successful when enhancing what is natural and native to my property. But some artificial improvements have provided amazing results within what nature allows them bird houses, bee houses, drumming logs, squirrel boxes, etc but have been limited by natural setbacks like severe drought, weather disasters during migrations increase in marauding BEARS, lol. I have piles of next generation designs attempting to make a better whatever(not just my trapping accessories). For me that is the fun and the challenge and hope it will always be till the day they spread me on the land I trying my best to steward. As a Biologist I like to have a little science support many of the things that are marketed out there. Good luck with your efforts.
Posted By: Northof50
Re: Butterfly house - 12/29/24 08:08 PM
all 4 species of Bushfoot butterfly overwinter ie mourning cloak Comma etc loss
Comptom tortoishell mass together as well as mourning cloak 100 to 200 in one spot is common when you find them. The best way is when you see one flying in a warm day in Oct-Nov to follow their flight path back to the overwintering spot. Of the two colonies I have marked and re-captured in the spring 97% losses were found. One other colony was destroyed when a shrew got into them =100% eaten
The Texas generation is the first one for the year and the northern latt. are 2nd and 3rd generations for the year of the Monarchs
Posted By: AJE
Re: Butterfly house - 05/17/25 03:53 AM
I suppose I may know soon if they will use it this year.
I probably should put a little leafy/woody debris in my butterfly house.
I've had an issue w/ it spinning that I am trying to overcome.