blue state again

The Washington state Senate passed a bill on Monday that would require gun buyers to get a permit and take live fire training.

House Bill 1163 will return to the House for concurrence before heading to Gov. Bob Ferguson's desk to be signed or vetoed.

Under current state law, all firearm sales are subject to background checks conducted by the Washington State Patrol, mandatory waiting periods, and completion of a firearm safety program.

Infringement!

Governor here in Maine just wants boys beating up on girls in girls sports and outlawing plastic bags.

There's too many gun owners that don't take any responsibly.
Is there anything wrong with this?
"an applicant for a CPL (concealed pistol license) must provide proof of completion of a certified concealed carry firearms safety training program. The certified programs must include live-fire shooting exercises on a firing range that include a demonstration by the applicant of the safe handling of, and shooting proficiency with, firearms. Live-fire training for the concealed carry firearms safety training program must include firing of a minimum of 50 rounds."
Thank irresponsible gun owners for dumping gas on the fire.

What's bad about it is....the crazy left coast thinking doesn't stay there.

I'm surprised Pa. Isn't worse than it is.

Four simple words.......

Kill a fly with a sledgehammer, it’s the guvment way.
Make the 99 percent pay for the 1 percents screw ups.
Like living in a red state.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

Keith

Blue people think they want to live in Kentucky. Until they do....Then they try to change us, but they can't....Then they leave bitter & we celebrate and laugh at them.

This why we can take Canada…..or a dictatorship could control a country….

This is why we don't need Canada as a 51st state. .No concept if freedom on their feet willing to comply and beg on their knees for God given rights.

Actually, LAWFUL firearm owners are extremely responsible. And the stats, contrary to what the anti self defense left would have you believe, supports that.

It’s the unlawful ones you have to worry about, but I doubt they’ll follow any new rule.

Leave it to a Canadian to not understand that.

The whole "lawful gun owner" line is nonsense. If you're a lawful gun owner, you'll comply with any gun control foisted upon you, because that's what's lawful. A lawful gun owner won't own a 30 round magazine in a state with a 10 round limit. A lawful gun owner won't own a semi-auto with a detachable magazine in colorado ( to use a recent example). If Vinke wants to be a lawful gun owner he'll comply with the laws mentioned in the OP. A lawful gun owner will comply with whatever nonsense rule the ATF comes up with regarding pistol braces, barrel length, etc. Be willing to be an unlawful gun owner.

Law of the land is shall not be infringed period. Even the military does not have to follow unlawful orders.

All the people running this state need to be tared and feathered. Just when you think they've passed the dumbest law, they keep pushing more. Because laws always stop criminals!

Yes. Needing a concealed pistol license is very wrong, not to mention the rest of that nonsense.

I’ll stay in my little cornfield, hog house, chicken house state.

Me too, Bob. Hog manure ain't so bad.

From irresponsible clueless gun owners to taking Canada. Good grief.
What make you think the US can successfully “take” any country, 1st, 2nd or 3rd world.

How many guns are in your country and how much ammo. We have more guns 393 million in civilian hands than you have people 40 million. And ammo to feed them.

What makes you think your opinion on our gun laws carries any weight.

Oregon is at it also, they never seem to have enough laws. I’m not sure how long I can keep putting up with all these laws. I hate to move from here but the fruit loops are starting to get overwhelming!

wws

It is just that you fit in with the clueless part so well.

Don’t worry.

We don’t want you.

Right!

Leave it to a loyalist to think they have any input in the matter.

Canadians whine about the liberal agenda in their own country, while simultaneously backing liberal agendas in ‘Merica.

Go figure.

[quote][A lawful gun owner won't own a semi-auto with a detachable magazine in colorado ( to use a recent example)./quote]

A person can't even own a 1911 .45 ACP in Colorado....?

I wonder how many people out east on the plains or on the west side of the mountains actually just ignore such ....?

Colorado SB-25 just passed and takes effect Sept 1 0f 2026. "can't own a semi-auto with a detachable magazine" was an overgeneralization of the law; but " SB25-003 implements and enforces Colorado’s existing law by requiring a permit and firearm safety training to purchase high-powered firearms that accept detachable magazines. The bill also prohibits the purchase and sale of all rapid fire conversion devices, like bump stocks and binary triggers. SB25-003 allows a person to purchase a semiautomatic firearm with a detachable magazine after undergoing a background check and completing a firearm certification course that includes information on safe gun usage, federal and state firearm laws, de-escalation and crisis intervention strategies, range time, and more. The bill does not impact the sale of shotguns, commonly used hunting rifles, semiautomatic firearms that have fixed magazines, and the majority of handguns. While SB25-003 prohibits the sale of gas-operated semiautomatic handguns, the sale of recoil-operated handguns, which make up over 90 percent of the pistol market, are not impacted by the bill. The bill does not impact possession of currently-owned firearms." So you'll still be able to purchase a 1911.

Seems we need to escort some politicians to train stations in several states

Yep. More guns and ammo win wars. Look at your history.

I don’t think my opinion matters, but it sure seems to. Some on here are very easily triggered…pun intended, and get bent out of shape.


Here we go again.
You don’t need no training, you’re Merican. It’s great that anyone down there can own a gun, but do you think anyone should?

Everyone in America can't legally own a gun. Do laws prevent illegal ownership? To a point. There are many ways to own a gun illegally.

I saw a guy on FOX who plans to run against her in the next election. He seems much more practical and has some common sense which she is lacking.

Easier to get a gun illegally here too. All I was saying is that a little bit of training can't hurt, maybe that's covered in hunter ed courses?

Some guys get their panties in a knot when I post on non trapping topics and it derails all the way to asymmetrical warfare and the same stupid comments because they don't know what to say. Some others here back up their statements and they hold validity. The dummies should let the ones who know speak for them.
I try to avoid off topics, but sometimes I'm bored.

Some day you may get bored with talking about trapping, Like me.

Fur market talk is okay. How to, not so much. Dead animal pictures , not at all.

shakey jake the problem is who decides what and when is appropriate. Same with mental health checks

May start out well but get an anti gun administration and it will changes fast.

Good example is hunter education. Took my daughter through it when she was 5. for 3 years they can get an apprentice license after that must have hunter ed card. So about 8 years old for the oldest boy he is out of apprentice license and I call to schedule the class only to be told he was to young it's geared to 10 year Olds and he could take the class but not get a completion card. So if you start kids out at 5 or 6 they would be to young and not be able to get a hunter ed card or hunt for a year or two according to that guy.

My how things changed. Called for a different class location put on by different people and they said no problem and there is leway given to the instructors and the other guy was just a jack leg that put on the classes i called about. .

Every family is different. My kids were shooting rifles, shotguns, and hand guns at a young age. Heck they had shot several different machine guns, 338 lapua and 50 big rifles before they were 10. Have a video somewhere of some of it my youngest was 8 the first time he shot a 50 bmg and 338 and 4 machine guns that day. All hear at home on my 500 yard range.

Basically they have more shooting experience on different platforms than you do

With this kind of thinking there would never have been an American Revolution.

IMO, that's the nice thing about Tman. It isn't just trapping, but hunting, fishing, shooting, etc. A while back, 330 had a blow by blow on his building a neat tree stand. I really enjoyed following his step by step as he built it. It seemed to inspire some others on here to post photos of their stands they had made. Lots of good ideas. I found this interesting.

Spot on PF. We started off good up here but things escalate depending on who's in charge.

"Basically they have more shooting experience on different platforms than you do"

You're very assuming on my background eh?....lol

Yes.

That's the thing about freedom. It's kinda scary.

They don need no freedom up in da European Panhandle (a lil meskin lingo thrown in for Jakey who thinks it is ok to call trappers names and besmirch ppl of a different race. )

Non compliance is the only way to combat unconstitutional legislation. We also need to hold our representatives accountable and ensure we’re actually represented. Also a key point to bring up here, we are a republic (meaning we as citizens have rights that can’t be taken, not even by government order, nor a majority vote)

But it can't be just one guy. If I go walk down the street in DC with a 12" barrel AR stuffed with a homemade lightning link, I'm gonna get arrested, and if I resist I'll end up dead. Heck, in DC they'll probably just skip straight to the killin me part. But if 100,000 of us did it together.......

Yeah, when I said noncompliance I meant everyone. Look at the pistol brace fiasco, they said turn them in by this date or you’re automatically a felon, and exactly nobody turned one in, so they went back to the drawing board. Also, a large portion of law enforcement officers won’t enforce laws they don’t believe are constitutional.

Another overlooked problem is the state will raise the cost to get thru the shooting class,fingerprint cards and the permit it's self.In Wa state there making hunting and fishing a rich mans sport. Combo hunting and fishing license is 147.00 ,a deer tag is 44.50,41.60 for a trapping license in addition to the combo hunting and fishing license you still need a small game license at 40.50. If your taking your kid hunting they get a break the cost is about half and for fishing anyone 15 and older has to have a license.Almost every year license fees increase.

"Shall Not Be Infringed"

That's whats important to us.

^^^^ wow,,,, so a woman that is fear of something/someone should wait?
Highway of Tears comes to my mind……

Are those resident permit prices?
Good lord that’s ridiculous if it is.

plenty of room here in Texas Vinke. Come on down and join the real American folk

1 its a gun law, makes it unconstitutional according to the 2nd amendment
2 violates the SC Marbury V. Madison decision of 1878 which states "any law repugnant of the US constitution is null and void".

Can you people handle the bad news?

"The Heller decision did not invalidate all gun laws; it affirmed that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess firearms for lawful purposes, including self-defense within the home, but it also recognized that this right is not unlimited.
The Supreme Court emphasized that certain types of gun control measures are permissible, such as laws prohibiting firearm possession by felons and people with dangerous mental illnesses, laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places like schools, and regulations on gun sales."

At one time, the supreme court also said that "separate but equal" (plessy v fergusen) was okay and that blacks can't be citizens (dredd scott v sanford). Sometimes they get it wrong. They got it wrong in the heller case, too.

Do the same for voting, but that would thwart the Democrat narrative. A permit to a constitutional right (owning a firearm) and they oppose a permit (ID) to vote.

Meanwhile, Iowa's governor just signed a law lowering the age to own and carry a handgun to 18.

We as citizens tend to focus too much on the 2nd amendment’s implications towards firearms, but it goes far beyond that. The 2nd amendment was written with the intention that the citizens should be equally as armed as our military, allowing us to overthrow potential dictators (or at least giving us a fair fight). So the military industrial complex has rendered the 2nd amendment as a protection for our little toys we use for self defense or hunting, but it has absolutely lost its intended purpose, our government has us way outgunned

Well said. All arms not just guns. Armed F35 to knifes and swords.


now where can I order a few cases of m203 that not just chalk marker rounds grenades and claymores?

This. The 2a isn't about shooting deer or bad guys that break into your house into the middle of the night. It's about retaining the ability to shoot police officers and soldiers in the event of the overthrow of a tyrannical government.

That’s what I said. Guns are great, but in the true spirit of the 2A, you’d need much heavier firepower if our government turned on us.