NEW YORK (AP) — ABC will reinstate Jimmy Kimmel’s late night show in the wake of criticism over his comments about the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, officials with the network said Monday.
“We have spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy, and after those conversations, we reached the decision to return the show on Tuesday,” said a statement from the network.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/23/2512:46 AM
Originally Posted by warrior
Sinclair, the affiliate that owns the bulk of the local stations, says that they will not air the show regardless of what ABC does.
Yep!
"Sinclair also calls upon Mr. Kimmel to issue a direct apology to the Kirk family. Furthermore, we ask Mr. Kimmel to make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk family and Turning Point USA," the company stated. "Regardless of ABC’s plans for the future of the program, Sinclair intends not to return ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live!’ to our air until we are confident that appropriate steps have been taken to uphold the standards expected of a national broadcast platform."
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/23/2502:13 AM
Who really cares? Nobody will be watching him, any sponsors will be wasting their money. Let them throw good money after bad and continue to dig their hole deeper.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/23/2504:27 PM
His first show will have a larger audience wanting to hear what’s he has to say but then it will go back to being at the bottom of the tank especially since he, as of now, lost 68 markets from Sinclair and Nexstar.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/23/2505:28 PM
Most his shows had lots of empty seats. They used that automated laughing system. I'm not saying that in a sarcastic way. His show was really dropping in ratings over the last ten years. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/23/2511:17 PM
It should be good and I'm looking forward to it.
The Constitution won a little battle here and I hope Kimmel flips the double bird at Brendan Carr and his master. Every else should too if they give a flip about free speech.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/23/2511:22 PM
Originally Posted by Blaine County
It should be good and I'm looking forward to it.
The Constitution won a little battle here and I hope Kimmel flips the double bird at Brendan Carr and his master. Every else should too if they give a flip about free speech.
The Constitution speaks about private employers?
What do you think about Google's admission that it deplatformed conservatives from YouTube at the behest of the Biden administration?
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/23/2511:32 PM
Originally Posted by Blaine County
It should be good and I'm looking forward to it.
The Constitution won a little battle here and I hope Kimmel flips the double bird at Brendan Carr and his master. Every else should too if they give a flip about free speech.
If Kimmel speaks and no one is listening does it make a sound?
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/23/2511:36 PM
Originally Posted by Blaine County
It should be good and I'm looking forward to it.
The Constitution won a little battle here and I hope Kimmel flips the double bird at Brendan Carr and his master. Every else should too if they give a flip about free speech.
The constitution? Tell us you know little about the constitution in your own words.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/23/2511:38 PM
Originally Posted by Blaine County
It should be good and I'm looking forward to it.
The Constitution won a little battle here and I hope Kimmel flips the double bird at Brendan Carr and his master. Every else should too if they give a flip about free speech.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/23/2511:47 PM
Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by Blaine County
It should be good and I'm looking forward to it.
The Constitution won a little battle here and I hope Kimmel flips the double bird at Brendan Carr and his master. Every else should too if they give a flip about free speech.
The Constitution speaks about private employers?
What do you think about Google's admission that it deplatformed conservatives from YouTube at the behest of the Biden administration?
Brennan Carr is not a private employer. Read up on him and Kimmel.
I just read about Google and Biden. Clearly wrong.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2512:29 AM
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
The Constitution speaks about private employers?
What do you think about Google's admission that it deplatformed conservatives from YouTube at the behest of the Biden administration?
Brennan Carr is not a private employer. Read up on him and Kimmel.
I just read about Google and Biden. Clearly wrong.
I apply the same dang standard to both sides.
But you know dang well that is not what happened. I also disagree with Carr's comments, and yes I've been reading about this all week. Carr did not cause the firing of Kimmel, Disney did. A private company chose to no longer air a television show they had been airing. THAT is the free market... and that is not covered by constitutional protection as you well know.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2512:37 AM
Originally Posted by Blaine County
It should be good and I'm looking forward to it.
The Constitution won a little battle here and I hope Kimmel flips the double bird at Brendan Carr and his master. Every else should too if they give a flip about free speech.
I didn't think a company firing u for ur actions at work had anything to do with free speech. Let's play a game here and put our thinking caps on please.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2501:29 AM
If you want to make this a constitutional issue, you can't make it based on what Carr/FCC threatens ABC regarding the licences. The argument to make is abolishing the FCC. Then again almost every regulatory agency should be abolished as most of them should not have any power to create there own rules . They should only be allowed to enforce laws passed by Congress, not assume the jobs of all three branches of the government.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2502:44 AM
Now that 2 major affiliates say they won’t carry the show and the shows not a money maker to begin with maybe just maybe capitalism will out do the constitution this time. Jimmys a liability no matter what he does a little fuse let it play out. I never watched him before and won’t start now even if it was the only thing on the tube.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2502:51 AM
Originally Posted by Blaine County
It should be good and I'm looking forward to it.
The Constitution won a little battle here and I hope Kimmel flips the double bird at Brendan Carr and his master. Every else should too if they give a flip about free speech.
Did you hear about You Tube .. admitting today,that they silenced conservative you tube posts
And even edited and altered content. ..per order by the Biden Regime ..
Where's your out cry about that violation of free speech ??
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2504:33 AM
Alot of Trump haters, let me use that phrase again, Trump haters, love Jimmy. I know a gun owning, hunter, trapper, who hates Trump. Loves Jimmy! Hangs with a bunch of similar Minnesota Trump haters!
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2505:48 AM
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
If you want to make this a constitutional issue, you can't make it based on what Carr/FCC threatens ABC regarding the licences. The argument to make is abolishing the FCC. Then again almost every regulatory agency should be abolished as most of them should not have any power to create there own rules . They should only be allowed to enforce laws passed by Congress, not assume the jobs of all three branches of the government.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2509:44 AM
Here is the monolouge from last night. You can watch it--it won't turn you libtard.
Kimmel says something that annoyed me about guns but was otherwise great on the 1A. Heck, Kimmel and I would probably disagree on most things. That's life--rationale people don't always agree on everything. They can still coexist and I can laugh when he says something funny.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2501:17 PM
Originally Posted by martentrapper
Alot of Trump haters, let me use that phrase again, Trump haters, love Jimmy. I know a gun owning, hunter, trapper, who hates Trump. Loves Jimmy! Hangs with a bunch of similar Minnesota Trump haters!
Isn't that exactly what truely makes America Great? Someone can enjoy some of the same things you enjoy. Dislike somethings you like or enjoy. You are totally free to not understand how that can be.. That is American..
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2501:22 PM
Originally Posted by hippie
No no, Just finding out that being anti gun isn't a deal breaker with you.....as long as you're an anti Trumper, lol
Unlike you and your pals, I don't swear allegiance to any man. There is no "deal" to break. Kimmel is a comedian. His entire purpose (at least for me) is to occasionally entertain. Although, this.last week.he also stood up for the 1A.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2501:30 PM
I really do not understand how a lawyer can believe that a private company's decision regarding whether or not to air a program can be considered a violation of first amendment rights.
In previous posts he referenced Carr, chair of the FCC as though the FCC had made the decision to pull the show. But, that is not what happened.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2501:58 PM
BC, you are hypocrite. You constantly admonish anyone in the current administration when something positive is reported by countering with Trump, Bondi, etal. is soft on the 2nd. It's been your go to and end all argument since I can remember. Yet, you're only annoyed by Kimmel being anti 2nd, but otherwise it's ok to agree to disagree and we all get along?
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2502:05 PM
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I really do not understand how a lawyer can believe that a private company's decision regarding whether or not to air a program can be considered a violation of first amendment rights.
In previous posts he referenced Carr, chair of the FCC as though the FCC had made the decision to pull the show. But, that is not what happened.
Funny how Lawfare was not a problem when it lacked due process and all the manipulation of the statutes that was no big deal to the trump haters. Excuses were made to look the other way you it’s all hypocrisy.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2502:06 PM
Originally Posted by ol' dad
BC, you are hypocrite. You constantly admonish anyone in the current administration when something positive is reported by countering with Trump, Bondi, etal. is soft on the 2nd. It's been your go to and end all argument since I can remember. Yet, you're only annoyed by Kimmel being anti 2nd, but otherwise it's ok to agree to disagree and we all get along?
Anyone else see this with him?
ol' dad
I think that is whataboutism? Pretty common on here.
I'm pretty sure that is how biden got drug into this post. "What about when biden did something that was not even what he did ?" Anybody read the letter of admission?
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2503:02 PM
Originally Posted by ol' dad
BC, you are hypocrite. You constantly admonish anyone in the current administration when something positive is reported by countering with Trump, Bondi, etal. is soft on the 2nd. It's been your go to and end all argument since I can remember. Yet, you're only annoyed by Kimmel being anti 2nd, but otherwise it's ok to agree to disagree and we all get along?
Anyone else see this with him?
ol' dad
Again, Jimmy Kimmel is a comedian. He is not President or Attorney General. He cannot affect my 2A rights. I can simply turn off the television.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2503:08 PM
I watched maybe a half dozen man show episodes. Seen one seen em all. Was entertaining for the first few. Then repetition bored me. I rarely watch TV and had no interest in his talk show. Never watched one.
Freedom of speech and press are real important. Worth fighting for.
Like my original post I still dont think government shut it down. Trump has a bad habit of running off at the mouth. Its the New York city native in him is my opinion.
My GUESS is in spite of the show losing money his fans made a big enough stink the financiers were afraid of a bigger money bleed. Probably hoping all this attention will increase viewership. Which it probably will.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2503:14 PM
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I really do not understand how a lawyer can believe that a private company's decision regarding whether or not to air a program can be considered a violation of first amendment rights.
In previous posts he referenced Carr, chair of the FCC as though the FCC had made the decision to pull the show. But, that is not what happened.
I understand how someone who has never ran a business or advised a business is missing the pretty obvious point. Let me explain.
If a government official threatens to do something, even if just implied, to a private business, it affects decision making and behavior at that private business.
The threat may be lawful or unlawful.
When talking about Kimmel and ABC, Carr made threats about licenses--among other things.
FCC licenses and other approvals are important to ABC and its affiliates.
Trump and Carr do not like Kimmel because he makes fun of Trump every night. Hence the threats.
Threats about licenses were made to affect the way ABC (or its affiliates) behave in regard to Kimmel.
The threats are a violation of the 1A because those threats could, and did, affect the behavior of ABC--it suspended Kimmel.
In suspending Kimmel, ABC did not violate the 1A. I never said it did.
It is not what I do, but I expect for the threats to be actionable, the FCC would have to actually take some action beyond Carr yapping on a podcast. Regardless, Carr still stepped all over the 1A with his comments. So did Trump with his comments.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2503:16 PM
"The COVID-19 pandemic was an unprecedented time in which online platforms had to reach decisions about how best to balance freedom of expression with responsibility, including responsibility with respect to the moderation of user-generated content that could result in real world harm.
Senior Biden Administration officials, including White House officials, conducted repeated and sustained outreach to Alphabet and pressed the Company regarding certain user-generated content related to the COVID-19 pandemic that did not violate its policies.
While the Company continued to develop and enforce its policies independently, Biden Administration officials continued to press the Company to remove non-violative user-generated content.
As online platforms, including Alphabet, grappled with these decisions, the Administration's officials, including President Biden, created a political atmosphere that sought to influence the actions of platforms based on their concerns regarding misinformation.
It is unacceptable and wrong when any government, including the Biden Administration, attempts to dictate how the Company moderates content, and the Company has consistently fought against those efforts on First Amendment grounds."
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2503:19 PM
Originally Posted by danny clifton
I watched maybe a half dozen man show episodes. Seen one seen em all. Was entertaining for the first few. Then repetition bored me. I rarely watch TV and had no interest in his talk show. Never watched one.
Freedom of speech and press are real important. Worth fighting for.
Like my original post I still dont think government shut it down. Trump has a bad habit of running off at the mouth. Its the New York city native in him is my opinion.
My GUESS is in spite of the show losing money his fans made a big enough stink the financiers were afraid of a bigger money bleed. Probably hoping all this attention will increase viewership. Which it probably will.
You will find this true in everything that’s on the MSM the same shows every time just the players are different often they are the same it’s all about SJW, racism, immigration all promoting the Lefts agendas/narratives.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2503:27 PM
Originally Posted by ol' dad
BC, you are hypocrite. You constantly admonish anyone in the current administration when something positive is reported by countering with Trump, Bondi, etal. is soft on the 2nd. It's been your go to and end all argument since I can remember. Yet, you're only annoyed by Kimmel being anti 2nd, but otherwise it's ok to agree to disagree and we all get along?
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2503:31 PM
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I really do not understand how a lawyer can believe that a private company's decision regarding whether or not to air a program can be considered a violation of first amendment rights.
In previous posts he referenced Carr, chair of the FCC as though the FCC had made the decision to pull the show. But, that is not what happened.
I understand how someone who has never ran a business or advised a business is missing the pretty obvious point. Let me explain.
If a government official threatens to do something, even if just implied, to a private business, it affects decision making and behavior at that private business.
The threat may be lawful or unlawful.
When talking about Kimmel and ABC, Carr made threats about licenses--among other things.
FCC licenses and other approvals are important to ABC and its affiliates.
Trump and Carr do not like Kimmel because he makes fun of Trump every night. Hence the threats.
Threats about licenses were made to affect the way ABC (or its affiliates) behave in regard to Kimmel.
The threats are a violation of the 1A because those threats could, and did, affect the behavior of ABC--it suspended Kimmel.
In suspending Kimmel, ABC did not violate the 1A. I never said it did.
It is not what I do, but I expect for the threats to be actionable, the FCC would have to actually take some action beyond Carr yapping on a podcast. Regardless, Carr still stepped all over the 1A with his comments. So did Trump with his comments.
You're way off base, what he said is ok...its where he said it and how his employers also took it.
On broadcast tv For instance they.... cannot swear Broadcast porn Guts and gore.
Obviously his employers don't like lying about half the country. (MAGA)
But keep digging, everyone here knows your true intent in backing this anti gun advocate.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2503:43 PM
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
I really do not understand how a lawyer can believe that a private company's decision regarding whether or not to air a program can be considered a violation of first amendment rights.
In previous posts he referenced Carr, chair of the FCC as though the FCC had made the decision to pull the show. But, that is not what happened.
I understand how someone who has never ran a business or advised a business is missing the pretty obvious point. Let me explain.
If a government official threatens to do something, even if just implied, to a private business, it affects decision making and behavior at that private business.
The threat may be lawful or unlawful.
When talking about Kimmel and ABC, Carr made threats about licenses--among other things.
FCC licenses and other approvals are important to ABC and its affiliates.
Trump and Carr do not like Kimmel because he makes fun of Trump every night. Hence the threats.
Threats about licenses were made to affect the way ABC (or its affiliates) behave in regard to Kimmel.
The threats are a violation of the 1A because those threats could, and did, affect the behavior of ABC--it suspended Kimmel.
In suspending Kimmel, ABC did not violate the 1A. I never said it did.
It is not what I do, but I expect for the threats to be actionable, the FCC would have to actually take some action beyond Carr yapping on a podcast. Regardless, Carr still stepped all over the 1A with his comments. So did Trump with his comments.
That was a whole lot of typing to say that I was right... and that while we both agree that Carr's comments were concerning, there was no infringement of first amendment rights that took place anywhere.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2503:53 PM
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
That was a whole lot of typing to say that I was right... and that while we both agree that Carr's comments were concerning, there was no infringement of first amendment rights that took pace anywhere.
I typed it simply for you but you missed the point again.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2503:58 PM
You're way off base, what he said is ok...its where he said it and how his employers also took it.
On broadcast tv For instance they.... cannot swear Broadcast porn Guts and gore.
Obviously his employers don't like lying about half the country. (MAGA)
But keep digging, everyone here knows your true intent in backing this anti gun advocate.
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This is extreme ignorance or more likely unwillingness to ceed that Trump has overstepped his bounds (again) You can't simply ignore the fact that Carr threatened Disney ( we can do this the easy way or the hard way) There was/is two big mergers that needed FCC approval to happen. A reasonable person can conclude that since Kimmel was suspended after these comments that they played a role. But aside from that, Trump said he wants the FCC to investigate further when he learned Kimmel was coming back. That's pretty black and white. You'll all be crying in your cheerios when the next president uses theFCC to shut down conservative voices. Or maybe they'll be mature enough not to feel threatened by a comedian making a joke about them, we'll see. Now, the fact that some affiliates won't air Kimmel is fine, that is the free market making decisions that they feel will benefit their viewers best
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2504:04 PM
And before you decide to come back with tds because that's all you have.... take a look at all the conservative voices that are saying the exact same thing I just did.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2505:02 PM
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
So, PA and BC, if Disney was soooo intimidated by Carr's comments, then why did they reverse their decision?
Just to be clear... whether Disney pulled Kimmel or proceeded as normal has no bearing on the level of unconstitutional gov interference. The words were spoken... that's the problem. To answer your question... I can't read minds so I can't say for sure. But the fact that both sides of the aisle cried foul certainly gave Disney some assurance that any further interference by the FCC would be seen for what is was and put the government in a liable position to them. Essentially having republicans and democrats alike condemn Carrs words put him back on his heels. He's in an indefensible position. And I'm sure money played a role in that decision to some extent. Just my opinion however
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2505:20 PM
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
So... we're saying that one board chairman, of a federal agency.... "speaking words" is...... unconstitutional?
When the words are a threat that the federal government will interfere if the results aren't what they want... then yes. What would you call it? I think you said that you agreed the remarks were "concerning "? To follow that up the POTUS said he would like the FCC to further investigate because he wasn't happy Kimmel was coming back. Are the arms of the federal government's job to make Trump look good and follow his directive or do their job in a constitutional fashion as the laws written by Congress allow? I think you know the answer....
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2505:21 PM
kimmel spews his political crap because he has an audience of rabid liberals that eat it up. I actually think they believe the stuff he says. And after what happened to Charlie Kirk, we really don't need folks like Kimmel firing up the hate and violence we all know the left is capable of.
But, that's his right to do if he wants to.
It's also his bosses' rights to can him if they choose.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2505:26 PM
Originally Posted by Pafoxman
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
So... we're saying that one board chairman, of a federal agency.... "speaking words" is...... unconstitutional?
When the words are a threat that the federal government will interfere if the results aren't what they want... then yes. What would you call it? I think you said that you agreed the remarks were "concerning "? To follow that up the POTUS said he would like the FCC to further investigate because he wasn't happy Kimmel was coming back. Are the arms of the federal government's job to make Trump look good and follow his directive or do their job in a constitutional fashion as the laws written by Congress allow? I think you know the answer....
One of the reasons we got the sub prime mortgage crisis was Clinton wt al threatening banks with investigation if they didnt give home loans to people that had no business borrowing 20 bucks let alone 200,000.
The difference between that and the FCC was that there was established rules that Kimmel was violating. The banks were just threatened with investigation just to be a nuisance.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2505:33 PM
Originally Posted by Pafoxman
And before you decide to come back with tds because that's all you have.... take a look at all the conservative voices that are saying the exact same thing I just did.
Exactly what both ya have, but I don't need that as an argument...it's an obversation. Broadcast tv has always been censored, the point you overlooked,,,and threats have been made in the history of it when the FCC thinks what they broadcast is not good for the audience/nation....
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2505:47 PM
Shows have producers and lawyers for a reason. I had 2 people comment on YouTube that Jimmy did not say what he said they even cut and pasted it in their reply now that’s real cult minds there.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2505:54 PM
If trump said anything that outrageous the left would have 180 degree position on how it should play out. Roseanne was the perfect example of free speech and its consequences but then that was different.
Re: Jimmy Kimmel to be reinstated - 09/24/2507:53 PM
Originally Posted by Pafoxman
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
So... we're saying that one board chairman, of a federal agency.... "speaking words" is...... unconstitutional?
When the words are a threat that the federal government will interfere if the results aren't what they want... then yes. What would you call it? I think you said that you agreed the remarks were "concerning "? To follow that up the POTUS said he would like the FCC to further investigate because he wasn't happy Kimmel was coming back. Are the arms of the federal government's job to make Trump look good and follow his directive or do their job in a constitutional fashion as the laws written by Congress allow? I think you know the answer....
I would call it the Chair of the FCC speaking out of turn. You do realize that the Carr cannot do anything alone, and that the FCC is a bipartisan agency, by law, right? That in order for them to do anything, the board must vote on it? So no... I do not believe that one person that has no legal authority speaking out is unconstitutional.
IMO there are far more concerning things going on currently than this!