CIA, special operations forces in Venezuela?

Just asking questions guys… I’m not much into politics and don’t really listen to talk radio anymore.
I had to cut it off… I’ve been getting information from several people that there’s some serious heat building up in venuzula… and not just the drug guys being blown to bits.

I know that Russia has been involved there for years,,, something because of natural resources and geographical strength.

Just been hearing there’s more than just the bomber flyovers for reconnaissance.

I have no doubt that they are there.

It is reported that the Army Special Forces Group 7 are being sent there but they didn’t say if the Group is working inside of the country

Ty… I didn’t know if it was a real or just a rumor.

There's one or two sf groups who's whole deal is working and training in central and south America... CIA definitely has a few spooks chilling out o down there

I have never heard of a country that has been able to live in peace when it has been targeted by the US's greed for raw materials.
The same game as always: regime change to loot the country.

Um, of course to bring democracy, to fight the evil Russians or the drug dealers...

I know whats going on over there. but I darn sure wont post it on here.

Does China have a footprint in Venezuela?

Whoaaaa there buddy … I got demoted due to perceived racial slurs lol

Where don't they?

Which countries were those?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

Most of your wars starting from 1775 were about some kind of resources.

Wasn't about every war for that?

Them first two are wearing black face. Trudeau got in trouble for that.

Every student in Germany is preached about the generosity of the United States after World War II and the Berlin Airlift.

In reality, there was extensive looting. It was simply called reparations. Most of the gold and art treasures that were looted were probably never officially listed. The German state's foreign assets were confiscated. Even supposedly neutral Switzerland received a large share of the Nazi gold.

Industrial facilities were dismantled and shipped out of the country in droves, including in the western sectors. Even forests were cut down for reparations, as they had been after the First World War.

Ultimately, we were fortunate that Roosevelt recognized the importance of Germany as a future bulwark against the rising Soviet Union. Otherwise, the Morgenthau Plan would have been implemented.

But that was all Germany was to US strategists. A bulwark designed to slow down a possible Soviet tank attack.
They wouldn't have hesitated for a second to wipe out Germany and its population with nuclear weapons to stop the Soviet tanks.
We had to live with this awareness.

Germany’s life line is Russian Oil.

I dong feel bad about taking the Nazis gold. I believe they started the looting
And I dont think we started that war either

Possibly. Though I think tactical precision warheads would be used as opposed to strategic Hiroshima type warheads.
Don't think for a minute there aren't plans right now with both Soviet and NATO forces for that very scenario to happen.
Soviets, Brits, French all have those plans.
It's still a nuclear world. We haven't progressed much since the 50s.

Well when you start, and then lose a war, you should expect stuff to happen....

The Hiroshima-Bomb was about 15 kT. That is what we consider a tactical warhead now.
The Yars intercontinental ballistic missile, which Russia testfired today as part of its nuclear maneuvers, can carry 10 reentry vehicles that can be programmed for individual targets, with 250 kT warheads each, or a total of 2.5 megatons.

The Soviet Union no longer exists. They are fighting each other now.
Stalin was Georgian.
Khrushchev was Ukrainian.
We cannot blame Russia for everything the former Soviet leaders did.

And the era of large, dynamic tank battles is also over.
We now live in a new world of drone dominance.
Tanks have gone from hunter to prey.
Nuclear strategies and tactics have to be adapted to this.

Having resources is good.

Back to the original post I think the CIA has a present’s in almost every country in the world, if nothing else it’s to see if other countries are operating there.

Manfred, you should be grateful we helped rebuild your country. Hitler and his government HAD to be destroyed. IMO our mistake was letting you Europeans drag us into that mess called WWI. Adolf likely would never have gotten the support he needed if we had just let you folks keep killing each other.

I don't have clue one what Trump has sent anyplace in South America

I would get behind a real war on drugs. Seems to me like its either legalization or put a stop to it. If satellites can find an individual they can find labs and fields.

I dont believe anyone in our government wants to steal Venezuelan oil. They have passed up too many chances at middle eastern countries.

Germany needs to run everything on coal again. You have plenty of it.

He's fixing to hit you with an AI generated answer that will be partially correct.

He is a rusky .Ignore

I don't use AI except for translation. While I'm used to reading English, I lack practice writing it.





I am. I'm just noting that the US didn't do this solely for charitable reasons.



There is no doubt about that.



Hitler was heavily supported by US capital. And your powerful people played the Second World War very well. In the end, the British Empire collapsed, the US rose from a regional power to a global power, and the US dollar became the world's reserve currency.




We've tried to suppress drug trafficking for decades, and yet it has become increasingly powerful.
I now also believe that legalization is the better way. But legalization must be implemented correctly to deprive drug trafficking of its economic basis while simultaneously protecting drug addicts as best as possible.
In my observation, Portugal has the best model for this so far: free drugs and intensive support for addicts by social workers.
Other countries have relied on models similar to those used for cigarettes: legalized drug trafficking by companies instead of the mafia. But these companies also have a strong interest in creating more drug addicts. The drug addicts don't receive the help they need, and the state profits from it through taxes. So the companies and the state themselves become the new drug dealers, while prices remain high enough to ensure that the illegal drug trade continues to be profitable.



The US is extracting and selling off its own oil and gas reserves at a record pace. Trump therefore has good reasons why he would gladly incorporate Canada and Greenland into the US. And the oil- and gas-rich countries in Central and South America will not find peace either. If not Trump, then it will be one of the next US presidents who actively tries to install US-friendly regimes there again.



In Germany, climate propaganda was played out more intensively than in any other country in the world, in order to cut us off from the Russian resources that were the lifeblood of our manufacturing economy.
The majority of the population is firmly convinced of an impending climate catastrophe. See, for example, the climate referendum in the state of Hamburg on October 12, 2025. 53.2% of the population voted for further tightening of "climate protection." By 2040, all fossil heating systems in the city-state must be replaced with renewable energy. The gas grid is to be completely shut down. Traffic throughout the city is to be limited to 30 km/h. Etc., etc.
Economic suicide on demand.
The economic situation must become much worse than it already is for the population to understand.
Adjusted for inflation, our economic output has declined by 25% over the past 30 years. No other Western country has such a poor record.
We create our own Morgenthau Plan...

You lost me with the "free drugs and intensive support for addicts", Another welfare program is NOT what we need!

Is Akona living in Germany now? lol

I guess for whatever reason we have to keep a few American hating people on here.

China's about taking over all of central America, imagine the 'drug war' is a good excuse for us to move troops and ships down there. Should of never financed China taking over the world in the first place!

So why did we give back mexico and why didnt we get any oil from iraq and why havent we annexed canada and greenland? Maybe the indian wars under "manifest destiny" era were for "resources.

You have to consider the overall social costs of procurement crime an combating drug trafficking that we are paying today.
If a good solution for the drug problem would reduce these by 80 %-90% society would save a lot of money despide the costs for social workers.
And think about the children born into junkie families, how much their future life's work and their contribution to society could improve.

But I was raised Christian, so I might have a distorted view of social Darwinism...

Questions only your strategists could answer.

My guess is: occupying Canada would currently cost more than it would bring in. You already get Canadian raw materials below world market prices, and mining is often carried out by companies with a high proportion of US ownership.
Would the costs of an occupation really be justified by increased profits?
And if you take Greenland by force, you could lose half of NATO as a partners. One of the major concerns of the Heartland strategists.

Looks like a formation of MV-22 Osprey and a Bombardier E-11A command aircraft are on their way from Puerto Rico to the south.
Maybe someone is getting a visit tonight.

The problem is your "solution" won't work. Look at the cities who have jumped on this bandwagon.

Are there any outside of Portugal?

Look at Seattle. Or Portland.

These zombie zoos are about the opposite of what Portugal does.

And Portugal hasn't even fully implemented what I'm suggesting. They still have drug trafficking, and thus the dealers' interest in getting people addicted because there's no free drug distribution.

But at least they offer programs with methadone, etc.

The junkies are in much better health than in the US, the number of addicts has decreased, and some are even finding their way back to a somewhat normal life.

I wonder what the cost of such a program. Im not big fan of welfare programs

The video states that drug-related costs have fallen by 18% because a lot of money is saved on court proceedings and prison sentences.

You do realize you can't compare Portugal to the US, right ? Portugal is comparative to Indiana or Maine.

In fact, I believe Portugal is one of the best comparisons between the US and Europe. The population is concentrated in the coastal metropolitan area. There's a lot of immigration from South America and connections to South America through colonial history. There are numerous smuggling routes into the country from South America and Africa. And these measures work despite the open borders and freedom of residence within the EU.

A good read is "confessions of an economic hitman"
by John Perkins.

He was involved in alot of this and spells out how the US did this stuff.

To believe that the US is "total innocent" is burying your head in the sand.

Great book!!

A must read

Was actually going to mention it in the over priced beef thread,,,,, in regards to recent events in Argentina

It’s to bad more Canadians haven’t read that book

'The US has announced the deployment of its troops to Trinidad and Tobago for alleged extraordinary military exercise'


Just of the coast of Venezuela.

'U.S. Defense Secretary Hegseth orders deployment of Gerald Ford aircraft carrier strike group to SOUTHCOM area'

We that elected Trump did so because the last whoever was running things was going to destroy our country with unbridled, illegal immigration that's prevalent in Europe.
Along with the illegals walking across our border were drugs in their historical numbers that he also said had to stop.

My partner in business had a boy that died from these drugs, A boy you would never think being he was raised right but somehow got caught up in it. Anyhow, I'm not naive enough to think this can be completely eliminated but hopeful for other families that these drugs get scarce enough it saves a significant number of our kids.

As for resources, been fighting for them since man figured out what they were but I'm not totally convinced that is this President's reason. Change of regime for sure but not a take over of the country.

War Secretary? I Thought this got changed?

Well at least the military wasn't ordered to kill some family guy loading water into his car by the previous imbeciles.

Next we will hear is we killed a boat with a father just trying to make a living fishing and supporting his poor Venezuelan family.

I did notvote for someone so they could give billions to another country like Argentinia we already do that with Israel.

For what it’s worth, “we” the people are cannon fodder for politicians who can’t say no to war related money going to their districts. WE the people get our parts blown off unless politician’s kids are on the firing line losing theirs. Money and resources speak the words politicians understand. It’s hard to believe lifetime politicians represent us when their whole working lives are spent looking for deep-pocket donations.

This has nothing to do with preserving the honor of America. Violating the sovereignty of Venezuela has nothing to do with us. It’s just a political attempt to gain resource favor…at the cost of American lives.

"Next we will hear is we killed a boat with a father just trying to make a living fishing and supporting his poor Venezuelan family."

That's been done already....maybe a fisherman is crewing, but he ain't fishing....You see those 3 big engines on the back? No fisherman can afford one of those.

Exactly.

Fishermen would stop when ordered to too. They wouldn't run like the drug dealers do.

Keith

Next time I’m fishing in the Caribbean,,,,,

I’m going too make sure the guide NEVER drives really fast, north

We have military “groups” whose sole purpose of existence is South America. So yeah, we have forces, known and unknown, everywhere down there. I wouldn’t be surprised if all the boats becoming fish food is the result of boots on the ground intel.