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Why are northern coons so big?

Posted By: Krig

Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 12:54 PM

Seems like they are “ twiced” as big as our Tennessee coons.. I mean.. fish are fish, corn is corn.. I don’t know what they eat to get so huge!
Posted By: mpb475

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 12:56 PM

Look up Bergman's Rule
Posted By: Donnersurvivor

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 12:57 PM

Animals generally get larger as you go north, it's known as Bergmanns rule.
Posted By: trapper les

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 01:01 PM

They get big up here too but there’s not that many around
Posted By: jalstat

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 01:12 PM

Because they need more body fat in a harsh climate just like whitetail deer
Posted By: corky

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by jalstat
Because they need more body fat in a harsh climate just like whitetail deer

and Midwestern women laugh
Posted By: k snow

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by corky
Originally Posted by jalstat
Because they need more body fat in a harsh climate just like whitetail deer

and Midwestern women laugh


Shade in the summer, warmth in the winter.
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 02:04 PM

As you go north or up the species become less diversified the bodies become larger to fight off the cold and extremities, like ears, legs etc. become smaller. True with most species that live in a wide habitat range like whitetail deer, coons etc.

Bryce
Posted By: Swamp Wolf

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by mpb475
Look up Bergman's Rule

This^^^^
Posted By: DaveP

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by mpb475
Look up Bergman's Rule


Yup
Appears to.apply to humans too!
Posted By: jeff karsten

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 02:18 PM

longer tougher winters weed out the small stuff course that is changing back in the 60's and 70's we had a lot of snow tons of snowshoe hares and tons of fox to eat them hardly any coyote Now we have coyote and possum
Posted By: Bob Jameson

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 03:32 PM

Like comparing the Nordic man with the Mayan men. Cold climate vs warm, tropical climate.
Posted By: flathead

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by bblwi
As you go north or up the species become less diversified the bodies become larger to fight off the cold and extremities, like ears, legs etc. become smaller. True with most species that live in a wide habitat range like whitetail deer, coons etc.

Bryce

What do you mean by less diversified? Do you mean their diet is less diversified?
Posted By: gcs

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 07:42 PM

Read somewhere that the Vikings weren't giants, most were well under 6'....attitude made up the difference, lol
Posted By: Bear Tracker

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 08:21 PM

She ain't a lady if she ain't 280! Northern women need that insulation and reserves!
Posted By: white17

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by flathead
Originally Posted by bblwi
As you go north or up the species become less diversified the bodies become larger to fight off the cold and extremities, like ears, legs etc. become smaller. True with most species that live in a wide habitat range like whitetail deer, coons etc.

Bryce

What do you mean by less diversified? Do you mean their diet is less diversified?



I don't want to put words in Bryce's mouth but what I suspect he meant was that there are fewer species of both plants and animals as you move toward the higher latitudes from the equator..............both north and south.
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 09:48 PM

There's a strong positive correlation between colder temperatures and intelligence too. It's accepted in animals and generally accepted in people, with a few people saying it's controversial and racist.

Keith
Posted By: ~ADC~

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 10:44 PM

There are Several clear exceptions to that Kieth.
Posted By: 8117 Steve R

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 10:45 PM

Always on it, ADC lol
Posted By: KeithC

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by ~ADC~
There are Several clear exceptions to that Kieth.


Jamie, as you should well know, exceptions don't make the rule.

Keith
Posted By: bblwi

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 11:47 PM

Less diversified, means there are fewer species as you move from the tropics to the poles. There are more numbers of each species but fewer species. Like the tundra versus the tropics. Lots of Lemmings, hares etc. but very not many species like one sees in the warmer climates.

Bryce
Posted By: BvrRetriever

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/18/25 11:56 PM

You gotta be big up here to survive…
Posted By: g smith

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/19/25 02:08 AM

Come on Canucks lets hear you crow !!!!!
Posted By: g smith

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/19/25 02:15 AM

Look at those Saskatchewan deer ! whoppers
Posted By: dixieland

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/19/25 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by bblwi
As you go north or up the species become less diversified the bodies become larger to fight off the cold and extremities, like ears, legs etc. become smaller. True with most species that live in a wide habitat range like whitetail deer, coons etc.

Bryce

Yes. The bigger the animal, the larger the fur, and fur being the same, the larger the coon, the more it brings. But, within the last week, someone on here has contradicted that common sense principle, and said basically, a smaller Southern coon will bring as much as a larger Northern coon.
Posted By: 52Carl

Re: Why are northern coons so big? - 11/20/25 03:57 AM

Bergmanns Rule involves the correlation between volume and surface area, and how these proportions change as size of the animal increases.
Volume is calculated by a factor of 3, while surface areas is calculated by a factor of 2.
As the size of an animal increases, its volume increases more than its surface area. This means that there is less skin exposed to the cold, and more body volume, which gives them a better likelihood of surviving in colder climates.
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