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US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license?

Posted By: beaver trapper

US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/15/18 11:15 PM

Hello guys. I’ve heard of a few instances where non-residents were able to obtain trapping licenses in Canadian provinces. Is this still possible in New Brunswick and Quebec, or are those days over?

Thanks
Posted By: Hutchy

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 12:49 AM

Not Ontario
Posted By: yukon254

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 02:29 AM

I can get you a 14-day assistant trapping license, but you have to book a trip with us to be eligible. Not sure about other provinces but Im guessing its not allowed.
Posted By: wy.wolfer

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 02:08 PM

If trapping by U.S. residents is not allowed, maybe U.S. residents should consider hunting with an Alaskan guide instead?
Posted By: yukon254

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 02:46 PM

If trapping by U.S. residents is not allowed, maybe U.S. residents should consider hunting with an Alaskan guide instead?


Not sure I understand your line of thinking. Every country has regulations when it comes to non-residents.....and in this case we are talking about non-resident aliens. Even in AK non-resident US citizens are required to hire a guide to hunt certain species. I wouldnt expect to be treated like a resident if I went to another country to hunt or trap so not sure why you seem to take offence at Canadas hunting trapping regulations.

Even in your state you have residency rules, got this information right from Wyomings website > Hunting and fishing in Wyoming is a privilege granted by state law. The Wyoming Legislature has established the residency requirements and fees for hunting and fishing licenses. Wyoming, like all other states, has different fees for residents and nonresidents. Wyoming statutes and Game and Fish Commission regulations have been enacted to ensure that only bona fide Wyoming residents are issued resident hunting, fishing, trapping licenses, and preference points.
Posted By: Tweed

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 03:16 PM

I don't take wy.wolfers comment as taking offense. He's offering advice. If its too much hassle or impossible to trap in Canada why not just go to Alaska where its allowed?
Posted By: yukon254

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 03:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Tweed
I don't take wy.wolfers comment as taking offense. He's offering advice. If its too much hassle or impossible to trap in Canada why not just go to Alaska where its allowed?


Possible for sure, it was just confusing because he said if US residents cant trap here, maybe they shouldn't hunt here, but instead hire an Alaskan guide instead. I dont understand the connection he is referring to between hunting and trapping? Both are allowed here with a guide just like everywhere else.

I think its quite evident from all of the advice experienced Alaskan trappers give newbies on this site, that even though it might be legal for a non resident to trap in AK, it's not going to be easy to find a spot, and probably not very productive, and it certainly wont be cheap. If that was the point. All of those things apply here too of course, hence the demand for guides.
Posted By: isnarewolves

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 04:22 PM

In Alaska, unlike many of the other states. Alaskan's have a "right" to hunt, trap, and fish. It's not a privilege. in some opportunities an Alaskan does not even need a license or report their take. Alaska also allows non-residents and non-resident aliens the same opportunities to trap as afforded to residents and a guide is not required.
Posted By: isnarewolves

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 04:49 PM

I forgot to also mention that the fee for the non-resident and non-resident alien trapping licenses are the same.
Posted By: yukon254

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 05:34 PM

Originally Posted By: isnarewolves
In Alaska, unlike many of the other states. Alaskan's have a "right" to hunt, trap, and fish. It's not a privilege. in some opportunities an Alaskan does not even need a license or report their take. Alaska also allows non-residents and non-resident aliens the same opportunities to trap as afforded to residents and a guide is not required.


Thats pretty cool. In my opinion it should be a right and not a privilege. I think Gov Jay Hammond put that in place if Im not mistaken? I do believe our system is better for trappers though. It certainly makes management easier for us.
Posted By: Boco

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 06:24 PM

In Canada the Aboriginal peoples have the right to harvest(hunt trap and fish)protected in the Constitution.
For the rest of us it is a privilege that we take very seriously and protect.
Posted By: yukon254

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 07:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Boco
In Canada the Aboriginal peoples have the right to harvest(hunt trap and fish)protected in the Constitution.
For the rest of us it is a privilege that we take very seriously and protect.


Yes thats true about First Nations. I thought Saskatchewan passed a law making hunting trapping a right but I could be wrong ??
Posted By: fishermann222

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 07:28 PM

Yukon if it was a "right" and not a privilege would you still be able to have registered traplines? It seems that system could impede citizens from exercising their "rights".
Posted By: bbrennan

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/16/18 11:12 PM

If someone is looking for an Alaskan trapping trip I have a friend that recommends Claude bondy said it couldn’t have been better!
Posted By: yukon254

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/17/18 03:14 AM

Originally Posted By: fishermann222
Yukon if it was a "right" and not a privilege would you still be able to have registered traplines? It seems that system could impede citizens from exercising their "rights".


Good question that I dont know the answer too. I would think registered lines would still work if trapping was a right, but lawyers might not agree. Even in places where hunting/ trapping is a right, there are areas where those activities are by permission only. Our system certainly isn't perfect, but it is the best IMO. I can manage my populations without worrying about other trappers. This is good for all trappers but is really helpful to me running a trapping business. The last thing a client would want is to pay to go somewhere everyone else can go and trap anytime they wanted.
Posted By: Tweed

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/17/18 08:20 AM

Originally Posted By: yukon254
Originally Posted By: fishermann222
Yukon if it was a "right" and not a privilege would you still be able to have registered traplines? It seems that system could impede citizens from exercising their "rights".


Good question that I dont know the answer too. I would think registered lines would still work if trapping was a right, but lawyers might not agree. Even in places where hunting/ trapping is a right, there are areas where those activities are by permission only. Our system certainly isn't perfect, but it is the best IMO. I can manage my populations without worrying about other trappers. This is good for all trappers but is really helpful to me running a trapping business. The last thing a client would want is to pay to go somewhere everyone else can go and trap anytime they wanted.



What type of clients do you get in your kneck of the woods? Can't imagine there's much ADC up there but I'm sure I can be wrong.
Posted By: yukon254

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/17/18 06:05 PM

Our clients come north to trap. They actually get a license so can set and check traps themselves, which is not legal in other provinces from what I understand. There are other outfitters who offer the same type of trips that we do in BC & Alberta, but I think it's more of a ride-along deal as non-residents cant get a license there, so legally are not supposed to set traps.
Posted By: Trapper Dahlgren

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/22/18 11:18 PM

good imfo. thanks guys
Posted By: wy.wolfer

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/24/18 03:32 AM

Originally Posted By: yukon254
If trapping by U.S. residents is not allowed, maybe U.S. residents should consider hunting with an Alaskan guide instead?


Not sure I understand your line of thinking. Every country has regulations when it comes to non-residents.....and in this case we are talking about non-resident aliens. Even in AK non-resident US citizens are required to hire a guide to hunt certain species. I wouldnt expect to be treated like a resident if I went to another country to hunt or trap so not sure why you seem to take offence at Canadas hunting trapping regulations.

Even in your state you have residency rules, got this information right from Wyomings website > Hunting and fishing in Wyoming is a privilege granted by state law. The Wyoming Legislature has established the residency requirements and fees for hunting and fishing licenses. Wyoming, like all other states, has different fees for residents and nonresidents. Wyoming statutes and Game and Fish Commission regulations have been enacted to ensure that only bona fide Wyoming residents are issued resident hunting, fishing, trapping licenses, and preference points.
Yes, you can buy a non-resident hunting license in Wyoming, and go hunting on your own. Can I buy a non-resident trapping license any place in Canada and go trapping on my own? Let's compare apples to apples. Show me I'm wrong and I'll gladly eat crow, eh! Apologies, I was gone for a few days to a funeral so I couldn't respond any time sooner.
Posted By: yukon254

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/24/18 04:44 AM

Originally Posted By: wy.wolfer
Originally Posted By: yukon254
If trapping by U.S. residents is not allowed, maybe U.S. residents should consider hunting with an Alaskan guide instead?


Not sure I understand your line of thinking. Every country has regulations when it comes to non-residents.....and in this case we are talking about non-resident aliens. Even in AK non-resident US citizens are required to hire a guide to hunt certain species. I wouldnt expect to be treated like a resident if I went to another country to hunt or trap so not sure why you seem to take offence at Canadas hunting trapping regulations.

Even in your state you have residency rules, got this information right from Wyomings website > Hunting and fishing in Wyoming is a privilege granted by state law. The Wyoming Legislature has established the residency requirements and fees for hunting and fishing licenses. Wyoming, like all other states, has different fees for residents and nonresidents. Wyoming statutes and Game and Fish Commission regulations have been enacted to ensure that only bona fide Wyoming residents are issued resident hunting, fishing, trapping licenses, and preference points.
Yes, you can buy a non-resident hunting license in Wyoming, and go hunting on your own. Can I buy a non-resident trapping license any place in Canada and go trapping on my own? Let's compare apples to apples. Show me I'm wrong and I'll gladly eat crow, eh! Apologies, I was gone for a few days to a funeral so I couldn't respond any time sooner.


Sorry to hear about your friend. I wasn't trying to say you were wrong I just didnt understand your point. The OP was asking about trapping, and you said if a US resident cant trap here maybe they shouldn't hunt here but go to AK instead. Not sure why you mentioned hunting with a guide....

Unless you are a resident of Alaska you cant hunt brown bears, sheep, or goats there either, even though you are a citizen of the country.....by your logic maybe you shouldn't trap there because of those regulations?
Posted By: isnarewolves

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/24/18 04:17 PM

so to keep the conversation in context. The question is about non-resident aliens(NRA) being able to trap. It appears there is little opportunity for a NRA to trap in Canada. NRA can trap in Alaska with the same seasons and bag limits that residents have to adhere to. Can NRA trap in Wy.? Is there any other states that allow NRA to trap?
Posted By: wy.wolfer

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/24/18 05:43 PM

Non resident aliens can buy a license to trap in Wyoming, and go trap without a guide or an outfitter. I don't think a NRA can buy a license to trap anywhere in Canada, even on private land on their own. Is that true?
Posted By: Boco

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/24/18 05:48 PM

I seen on the news today where a couple guys from Minnesota were charged $6000 for trapping without a licence and possession of traps in Ontario.Dont know what the circumstances were,whether they were on private land or with someone on his registered trapline.
Posted By: Ronaround

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/24/18 06:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Boco
In Canada the Aboriginal peoples have the right to harvest(hunt trap and fish)protected in the Constitution.
For the rest of us it is a privilege that we take very seriously and protect.


Boco> but in the same breath the natives are taking back most of Quebec at least the caribou grounds as there own again, eliminating hunting potentials for both your residents and US, such as myself. At least that was what I was told by my Canadian guides 2016 in kuujjauq,Quebec.So I assume your as Residents will suffer as they give in to tribal demands.
Posted By: Boco

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/24/18 06:19 PM

Yes indeed,modern land claims in areas not already under a treaty in some cases include self government,especially over resources.You will need the approval of the native government in order to trap on Native territory,just like any other resource development.Just like you do in any soverign nation.
The Natives are not "taking back" territory-If they signed no treaty they never gave it up in the first place.
We are under treaty 9,one of the so called Numbered Treatys.
I have never found the FN exclusionary to development in their territory,they just want to be included and have a say on what and how development takes place,and rightfully so.
Posted By: yukon254

Re: US citizen obtaining a Canadian trapping license? - 05/24/18 06:42 PM

Here in Yukon land claims has little effect on private registered traplines. FN are required to give access to trappers that have to cross settlement land. In some areas we need to get their permission to hunt, but I have always found them great to deal with.
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