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Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings?

Posted By: Carolina Foxer

Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 06/01/21 10:52 PM

I just bought 6 duke #5 longs. Want to play around this fall and work em on beavs. Anybody do it in any volume? Or have any tips besides the same old rules for coilspring beaver traps?

Pics welcome.
Posted By: the Blak Spot

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 06/02/21 07:35 PM

I like the foot to step between the jaws.
Posted By: MySide 🦝

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 06/02/21 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by the Blak Spot
I like the foot to step between the jaws.

lol
Posted By: plainstrapping25

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 06/03/21 12:20 AM

I always run ts 85s. But I had same interest and bought a #5 longspring. It produced really good. Ran it on dam break and blind sets. Just love how it beds in the bank and mud. And the feel of it.
Posted By: Turd Furgeson

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 06/03/21 03:02 AM

I’ve caught quite a few in #5 Bridger dls,I’d take them over the beloved mb750 any day. Easy to set over knee and take a foot out of.
Posted By: the Blak Spot

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 06/03/21 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by Turd Furgeson
I’ve caught quite a few in #5 Bridger dls,I’d take them over the beloved mb750 any day. Easy to set over knee and take a foot out of.

Yep
Posted By: Carolina Foxer

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 06/05/21 11:51 AM

Been messing with them the last few days. I plan on tinkering next year with the duke #5 longs, Bridger #5 longs, Bridger #5 coils, and the no bs beav xtremes. Also going to run them on a few different drowning set ups.

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Posted By: Mac

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 06/10/21 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by MySide 🦝
Originally Posted by the Blak Spot
I like the foot to step between the jaws.

lol


I expect he meant in lieu of over the loose or fixed jaw. Don't think he meant that as a joke. There are some critters one would prefer to have the animals come into the trap over the jaw hinges. I bet that is what he meant. But I could be wrong.

Mac
Posted By: the Blak Spot

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 06/10/21 02:11 AM

^^^ what i meant, but i still chuckled
Posted By: We-Sa

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 06/15/21 04:54 PM

I had good luck with the Bridger #5 coil spring, offset traps cleaning out a pond last year. That's been my only experience with beaver
Posted By: chicken

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 06/16/21 06:51 PM

I run half dozen #5's.
I set for back foot with them. they work very well!!!!
Posted By: Ave

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 06/17/21 05:01 PM

For some reason, I could never get the Bridger 5 long springs to work for me. I love the number 5 coils, but I missed quite a few beaver in the long springs last season. Now matter how I set them, they were always at the bottom, or halfway to the bottom with nothing in them. It was probably my mistake though, as I know a few trappers that use them successfully.
Posted By: bobcat_trapper

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/04/21 02:35 AM

First #5 i ever got was double long springs. Then added coilspring #5. Now i have 2 CDR traps coming to try out. Beaver trapping i enjoy alot. I go in catch peoples trouble beaver. That opens up new land for me too trap.
Posted By: LT GREY

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/15/21 11:24 PM

Duke or Bridger #5 DLS . I use them and take a good many beaver.
Mine all have mods though
Posted By: alaska viking

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/16/21 01:46 AM

Can't see any need for "mods" on #5 longsprings.
When I started trapping, around 45+ years ago, a #5 was a bear trap. Caught MANY beaver in #3's. Double longspring #4's accounted for many more.
In a drowning set, trap placement, and the set itself is what counts.
Posted By: Swamp Wolf

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/16/21 02:21 AM

Wax the double longs. It makes them easier to set over your knee.
Posted By: Paul Dobbins

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/16/21 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by alaska viking
In a drowning set, trap placement, and the set itself is what counts.


This true regardless of trap size.
Posted By: Buck (Zandra)

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/16/21 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by alaska viking
Can't see any need for "mods" on #5 longsprings.
When I started trapping, around 45+ years ago, a #5 was a bear trap. Caught MANY beaver in #3's. Double longspring #4's accounted for many more.
In a drowning set, trap placement, and the set itself is what counts.

Well,I guess I have too.But I lost or missed more.I 've yet to discover how to make a set that's supposedly targeting a front foot remain a front foot catch only set with wildly fluctuating water levels.And catch rates on hind feet using 3's and 4 longsprings are poor
Posted By: the Blak Spot

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/16/21 08:36 PM

They hold well

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Posted By: LT GREY

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/16/21 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Wax the double longs. It makes them easier to set over your knee.


And then you can't keep the springs in place .
Wax a DLS to set under water ?
I almost want to ask if you're kidding !?

Posted By: LT GREY

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/16/21 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by alaska viking
Can't see any need for "mods" on #5 longsprings.
When I started trapping, around 45+ years ago, a #5 was a bear trap. Caught MANY beaver in #3's. Double longspring #4's accounted for many more.
In a drowning set, trap placement, and the set itself is what counts.



Paws I Trip on all my DLS Beaver traps and. . .

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Posted By: bearcat2

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/17/21 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by LT GREY
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Wax the double longs. It makes them easier to set over your knee.


And then you can't keep the springs in place .
Wax a DLS to set under water ?
I almost want to ask if you're kidding !?


Absolutely not! Waxed doublelong spring beaver traps my whole life, and will continue to. They do set easier as Swamp Wolf says, but never really thought of that as a reason to wax them before, but they go off faster, and I absolutely want any trap I am going to set under water the whole time waxed to protect it.

Guess I've never had a problem with the springs staying in place while I set the trap, so I'm not even sure what you are talking about. But then almost all the double longsprings I've used since I was old enough to break a #2 over my knee have been waxed. Break it over your knee, stick one spring under the opposite leg to hold it compressed, and hold the other spring down with one hand while setting the dog and pan with your free hand. What is there for the spring not to stay in place?
Posted By: bearcat2

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/17/21 10:45 AM

And I'm with Alaska Viking, never seen the need for those huge traps for beaver, I far prefer a #4 over a #3 but I certainly never many pullouts in #3s. I usually set for front feet regardless of trap, unless the terrain dictates setting for a hind foot because there isn't a good spot to bed shallow for a front foot. Takes a lot less water to drown a front foot caught beaver. Are you guys using offset jaws? I always ran closed jaws and toothed traps for beaver, where legal.
Posted By: Buck (Zandra)

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/17/21 11:32 AM

The comment about not waxing lonspring has nothing to do with how to set one.It has to do with the springs not staying put on the dog side of the trap.I'm sure LT.Grey had a grin with somebody giving him instructions on how they set a longspring
Posted By: bearcat2

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/17/21 04:13 PM

Okay, still never had a problem. They do pivot much easier waxed, but never had a problem with them pivoting back on their own. Why I'm confused as to what he was talking about. On the other hand, I could count the number of times I've used unwaxed longsprings on my fingers, so I'm necessarily comparing to setting unwaxed longsprings in the shop, so I don't have any comparision.

I realize LT has a lot of experience, I wasn't disparaging him, I detailed how I set so he could point out the specific spot he was talking about the spring not staying in place, because I couldn't recall ever having a problem.
Posted By: Buck (Zandra)

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/17/21 05:00 PM

Personally,I wax all my longsprings too,predator and water.Some don't slap back at ya,and others are certified pain in the backside.I also believe the reason why the Lt. Modifies No.5 s for beaver is he long chains his beaver,there's always a chance they don't drown.I know this because we've had this discussion before.
Posted By: thedude055

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/19/21 04:44 PM

My primary Beaver traps are Victor 3's and Bridger #5 longsprings. I like the Bridgers more I think but am glad after all of the work toting and walking in and out that all of my traps arent #5's. I have applications where the #5 is the go to trap and others where the #3 is my go to. It is all about how I personally trap and work beavers in a creek pond lake or river. I find myself running more longsprings than Coni's these days and i dont know why. I dont think it is success based i think i just enjoy longspring trappin in the water more than anything else really. Like Lt stated all of my longsprings are modded with Pit pans. Old Victors have the bar across the bottom like I see on his. I didnt see the need on the bridgers but I also dont get after it at times like Lt does thats for sure. I do not paint dye or treat my longsprings currently. Just clean grease off and roll with them. One thing I am on the fence about and I will certainly listen to the experts on is I dont base plate and center or corner baseplate my long springs. I still run them on the spring slide. In my drowner setup i thin kthey work fine that way and it seems to help me get flat settings in really rocky creeks and waterways. I also like the reach of having the cable (cable drowners here) away from the set a little bit more? I dont know if that actually helps or not but i do get the warm and fuzzies about it.
Posted By: bearcat2

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/20/21 01:05 AM

I like most of mine attached to the spring for the same reason, just put the drowner very close to the spring, not on the end of an 8-12" chain but usually just a link or at most two. I do have a couple that are attached to the center crossbar under the loose jaw, that I use when I am in real shallow water. By the time you get the drowning wire (or cable, if you are using cable) out from under the trap (and I like it out of the beavers runway more importantly) you really only gain a couple inches of drowning depth at most. Sometimes that couple inches makes a difference trapping in these small mountain stream, though.
Posted By: glf

Re: Footholding beavs with #5 longsprings? - 07/21/21 04:54 PM

I have caught many beaver in the long spring traps. I have noticed foot slippage in the traps that did not have very strong springs. You can see it for yourself, just look at the foot position in relation to the trap pan. Setting shallow is no guarantee you will not catch a beaver by the back foot. The less than very strong traps will lead to pullouts. I'm not talking about those sissy 50pound beaver I am talking about big beaver. I no longer use any long spring traps for beaver. BUT..... Use what works for you.
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