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Barrel swivel on snare
Who here uses them barrel swivels on snares?
Making up a bunch of snares with #6 barrel swivel.
I have tried them the last couple seasons and really like them.
Haven't lost anything with them.
Some get pretty Bent up with big coyotes.
Has everyone lost anything with breakage?
Posted By: PSPH17
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/06/23 01:55 AM
I make them with barrel swivels on my beaver snares
Posted By: warrior
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/06/23 02:13 AM
I make them with barrel swivels on my beaver snares
Same
Shame we can't try them out on canines though.
Posted By: D.T.
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/06/23 02:22 AM
Ill never go back to not having them
Posted By: Mark McCary
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/06/23 02:52 AM
Yes I use them on All of my coyote/bobcat snares! Hundred's of them!
I have not had one fail yet. On hundreds of catches.
The #8 is the one I use 900 pound rating!
The #6 is too Small for Coyotes in my opinion.
With the # 8 swivels, I have caught a few deer and the swivel's held up fine until the Break Away S Hook Released the cable!!!
Yep I like them.
Posted By: Boy Named Sue
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/06/23 04:04 AM
Beaver snares.
Posted By: Hern
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/06/23 09:48 AM
Here in Pennsylvania, we only may use Cable Restraints on land. beartooth trapr, I use an inline barrel swivel and never had one break.
Here's my rig-
Posted By: USMC47 🦫
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/06/23 10:56 AM
All I use now. I use the #8 swivels. It’s not a huge sampling but I maybe have 75 coyote catches on them in the last 4 years. I mainly stick with steel but some places here I can’t keep traps working in winter.
Posted By: Swamp Wolf
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/06/23 11:32 AM
Best features about em are smaller size (harder to see/easier to hide) and less weight (dont make the cable sag)
I build them onto the beaver snares (when snare is set they are up next to the 10" loop. Snares are short as I can make them and still have a 10" loop.)
I put on an 1/8" quick link and then a 4' to 6' extension cable.
Excellent thanks everyone, I really like them because they are small.
Easy to conceal.
Posted By: PSPH17
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/06/23 05:24 PM
Swamp wolf I do the same
Posted By: steeltraps
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/06/23 09:40 PM
X2 on the #8 barrel swivels. Will post up what we use on fence snares later. When I get in
I've never gave any attention to the barrel swivels, but this thread has me thinking about them. Never have seen them up close, so one question. Can the swivels open up to enclose around the loop or do they have to be built into the snare when being made?
Posted By: warrior
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/06/23 10:59 PM
I've never gave any attention to the barrel swivels, but this thread has me thinking about them. Never have seen them up close, so one question. Can the swivels open up to enclose around the loop or do they have to be built into the snare when being made?
Built into by looping and crimping the cable.
Where others use a quick link to swap out the loop to the extension I go ahead and make up a bunch of snare ends with the loop already bent and tucked into it's ferrule but not crimped.
In the field I can cut off a used snare after the catch and swap out for a new one and crimp it in the field. I got a 1/16" one cavity swager that works well. It's about the same size as my cutters.
Posted By: 20scout
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 02:13 AM
They are worth every penny and cheap insurance.
Posted By: SNIPERBBB
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 02:39 PM
I've never gave any attention to the barrel swivels, but this thread has me thinking about them. Never have seen them up close, so one question. Can the swivels open up to enclose around the loop or do they have to be built into the snare when being made?
Gotta bulld them into the snare. Which is the only negative I have with these as you can't just switch the snare portion out on the line after a catch. Have to change out the whole thing. Not really an issue for most situations but the spots where the trail doesn't get ruined it's nice to just change the snare part. Could just run as short extension to a trap swivel or ez hook.
Posted By: kytrapper
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 04:21 PM
Dale Billingsley had a very good video on YouTube showing how to build these snares.
Posted By: Mark McCary
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 04:43 PM
It dose not take much Time at all to replace a used snare with a new snare and extension cable if this is how your snares are set up?
Have plenty of snares ready to use before season starts!
The used snares are saved and rebuilt if possible? During the summer.
Snares can really get tangled up! Especially the long ones.
My open country coyote snares are pretty long.
So I coil them up individually and bundle in groups of ten. This helps keep them organized.
A well made Snare is a great tool, just be careful where you set them.
Posted By: SNIPERBBB
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 04:51 PM
There's some places that are really gnarly and you really don't want to go back into them to replace the whole thing if you can help it.
Posted By: Yotegiter
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 05:04 PM
#8 they last forever, zero failure. I find old snares on fences from days long ago, that are still in good shape
Posted By: Mark McCary
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 05:37 PM
There's some places that are really gnarly and you really don't want to go back into them to replace the whole thing if you can help it.
I hear what you are saying and agree!
On a spot like that, I might use another extension cable or drive in a earth anchor/stake that is easier too access.
Posted By: steeltraps
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 05:54 PM
#8 they last forever, zero failure. I find old snares on fences from days long ago, that are still in good shape
Yep !!! Bout like finding 2 quarters on the ground !! LoL !
Posted By: Boco
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 06:14 PM
I make all snare sets lethal-So I dont use any swivels on snares.
Swivels are a great asset if you set a snare as a live holding device.
Posted By: steeltraps
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 06:29 PM
Here is the snare with # 8 barrel swivels we use in West Texas and on high fences
Posted By: steeltraps
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 06:31 PM
Some folks like to tigh of snare with wire. We prefer to loop back threw on fence then wire
Posted By: steeltraps
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 06:32 PM
After coyotes are caught. Cut pig tail off at barrell swivel and reuse
Posted By: warrior
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/07/23 06:51 PM
My extensions are cut same length as my snare loop, 36". Finished with a #9 swivel. I make other same length extensions with just a loop where the #8 swivel would be. These get looped around a tree or anchor then daisy chained to the snare #9. I can daisy chain as many as needed to reach from set to anchor. I'm kind of a nut for lots of swiveling.
Posted By: Mark McCary
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/08/23 07:25 PM
Steeltraps, Those are some well designed fence snares! Fast to set. I bet they work well for the service you provide! Thanks for the pictures.
Posted By: steeltraps
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/08/23 07:44 PM
We have about 400 of them out on around 107000 acres of sheep pastures so speed is important. Looping. In stead of wiring too fence saves time
Posted By: MChewk
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/08/23 10:37 PM
Chris, I don't see a collar on your snare...how do you stabilize it? A pic would be great.
Posted By: ~ADC~
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/09/23 02:42 AM
I've basically eliminated all swivels from my snares. I just don't see a need for them with my style of snaring. I want everything wrapped up tight.
Posted By: steeltraps
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/09/23 12:45 PM
Chris, I don't see a collar on your snare...how do you stabilize it? A pic would be great.
No collar. Just hang snare on fence. All we do is fence snare. Sorry dont have any pics. Will be back in West Texas by Monday
Posted By: MChewk
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/09/23 01:32 PM
Via some light gauge wire?
Posted By: steeltraps
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/09/23 04:33 PM
Via some light gauge wire?
Yes. It will hand like = tear drop
Posted By: LT GREY
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/10/23 12:31 AM
I have used barrel swivels for over 30 years.
One of the first to PUBLICALLY denounce wire swivels
A wire swivel has no place on a snare, IMO.
It's junk and serves no purpose and the only person that will dispute that is a guy who trying to sell it to you.
I ditched the #6 and went straight to the #8, which has a 900 lb breaking strength.
BIG coyotes can damage a #6 and stretch them out
Don't think for one second they can't. Reuse a damaged swivel and you'll get an education
Or . . .take it from me #8 / 900 lb.
Do it !!!
* The closer the swivel is the the animal, the better it will perform. Too far away, it's useless
Posted By: Boone Liane
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/10/23 02:35 PM
While I feel there is no need to have a swivel on a coyote dispatch snare (other than legal requirements if applicable), if you do NEED swiveling, the barrel swivels are the way to go.
The wire swivels are only good for satisfying legal requirements.
Posted By: TrapprChris
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/12/23 10:34 PM
Everything from mink to coyote gets a barrel swivel as close to snare support as possible, within reason. I then step up my extension cable from there 1 size and always 7x7
Posted By: paloduro
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/16/23 05:09 AM
I use a #8 barrel swivel on my snares.
Posted By: Larry Baer
Re: Barrel swivel on snare - 06/26/23 08:05 PM
I use the big ones on my beaver body traps. Use the smaller ones on 220 and 110 sized traps. I got a coyote by the front leg in a Belilse 220 a couple years ago on 10' of 1/8'' cable. he was there when I checked traps the next morning.