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Posted By: Throw Back

Using one way doors - 01/03/15 04:57 AM

I dont know why I dont use them much. They seem like they would work well with the skunks around here.

Is there any specail do's and donts? Will young animals be able to use them?
Posted By: EatenByLimestone

Re: Using one way doors - 01/03/15 02:56 PM

We use them often for bats, flyers, and red and Grey squirrels if there is a hopper attached. Never thought of using them for skunks. I'd be afraid they couldn't get back out!
Posted By: Paul Winkelmann

Re: Using one way doors - 01/03/15 04:22 PM

They do work great on skunks and I have no idea why our guys don't use them more. ( Maybe they don't like to make all that money in

just one trip )
Posted By: Throw Back

Re: Using one way doors - 01/03/15 04:35 PM

I am still just looking for "less than lethal" options. But I worry a little bit about using them because I am not too good with birthing seasons yet. I will try it and use and inspection camera until I figure it out.
Posted By: Lundy

Re: Using one way doors - 01/04/15 03:21 AM

We make a four inch one way excluder with wings for mounting. Is there a market for a six inch model? I can make up a prototype, PM me, you pay shipping, and we can test the idea? If we get good results, we will figure out a price and add them to our product line.
AESTraps.com
I say 'we' as I started this company with my youngest son and my wife helps a lot too. E-mail to the company goes thru my wife then to me, PM's go straight to me, I'm away from the shop until Thursday, but I can make up some and ship on Friday I hope. Look at our four inch and imagine it in a six inch size. Price will be close to the same.
I will offer a discount to those that provide good input to design. As a businessman I will try to make a profit, yet still reward those that help us, PM me with any new ideas we can work on.
Posted By: Throw Back

Re: Using one way doors - 01/04/15 04:22 AM

I don't know too much about them, but I would think there would be benefit to a six. I don't ser why not.
Posted By: Throw Back

Re: Using one way doors - 01/04/15 05:14 AM

I would even think an 8-10 for a raccoon
Posted By: EatenByLimestone

Re: Using one way doors - 01/05/15 12:09 AM

A raccoon will tear its way back in.
Posted By: trapperpaw

Re: Using one way doors - 01/05/15 08:00 AM

I use the tomahawk 9 inch regularly for skunks, opossums, feral cats, and raccoon on the ground like crawls spaces under outbuildings,or higher if the building is a secure one without the danger of tearing in somewhere else. I know some people use them for grey squirrels but I hesitate because he has a key to the house if he wants back in. If it is a raccoon I mostly use WCS's coon excluder as nothing can defeat it if mounted securely. I sometimes use two of tomahawks j hooked together so if they beat one trying to get back in or change their mind right after going through the one way they always go out the second door then they are up a creek.
When I think the coast is clear before closing the entry I put something behind the one way door like tracking powder, a ball of newspaper or cloth or a delicious food item or water if nothing disturbs it I close the entry.
It's usually a three trip deal where I give them a flat price and where people think they have many animals and they may they seem to be happy to know what the whole job is going to cost up front. Getting the animals out is usually 300 and the exclusion 50 to three hundred.
If I am going to exclude the deck I'll do that first except where I put the door.
Throw back is right. It can't be during the birthing or small babies season. You can take the whole family out if they are juveniles.
If you have trapped the mother you could post her outside to encourage the young to come out through an excluder or an excluder hooked to a cage. If the situation allows it.
Lundy if I were going to build one I would make it long enough for two doors with enough room for the target animal to fit between them. I have seen sparrows and squirrels beat the first door to get back in but while they are working on the second door they end up going back through the door they beat because it is easier then they have to start all over again. you can call me or pm me if you want to talk to me about it.
I think that's all I got.
The other Paul and myself are going to appear so much smarter with this spell check.
Posted By: Brian Mongeau

Re: Using one way doors - 01/07/15 03:48 AM

Could use a colony trap on them (home made 6x6). Six in this trap. I could have opened the back door as an excluder also. Finished with 8 pups and mom.

Posted By: Paul Winkelmann

Re: Using one way doors - 01/07/15 04:22 AM

Excellent picture. Lots of white on those skunks. I think they're one of the best looking animals. Now if only they could do

something about that bad breath.
Posted By: Throw Back

Re: Using one way doors - 01/07/15 04:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Brian Mongeau
Could use a colony trap on them (home made 6x6). Six in this trap. I could have opened the back door as an excluder also. Finished with 8 pups and mom.




how long is that
Posted By: Brian Mongeau

Re: Using one way doors - 01/07/15 01:38 PM

35"x6"x6". Long enough to catch a bunch and short enough to fit in my CO2 chamber. I also made a nose cone with flanges that stays attached to structure, just slide the right side in. It's a gravity door, so I added a jump wall. They can't get their noses under it.
Posted By: Throw Back

Re: Using one way doors - 01/07/15 01:53 PM

That is great.
Posted By: mousie

Re: Using one way doors - 01/07/15 06:42 PM

scott baltz of minnesota makes some great ones but may have sold his company to another member on here. anyone know?
Posted By: trapperpaw

Re: Using one way doors - 01/07/15 07:59 PM

mousie lundy who posted earlier bought Scott's stuff and is making those traps now. Lundy, Greg Smith, amateur trap makers look at Brian's great idea of a nose bump. Brian once again you are a (naughty word) genius and pretty handy also.
I think a second door would be a good addition or it could be in the nose cone.
Posted By: Brian Mongeau

Re: Using one way doors - 01/07/15 10:47 PM

It was gray squirrels that taught me the jump wall (nose bump). I made a few smaller traps for grays and flyers. The grays figured it out, and I didn't have anything to make spring doors with, so the wall was added. Haven't had problems with them since. The only downside is, they must be horizontal. Vertical and the door swings open, but hardly ever an issue. I figured if a colony worked on squirrels and muskrats, skunks would be no problem. Haven't had the chance to use on woodchucks yet. I won't even try raccoons.
Posted By: Eric Arnold

Re: Using one way doors - 01/07/15 11:02 PM

Paul,

I had Greg already make a trap similar to Brian's that is 5 x 5 x 36 with 2 spring loaded one way doors about 2 years ago. We're just waiting to hear if this is something operators would like. The design is based off of a trap I made back in 2001 and used frequently with skunk calls with kits. I just never liked how I made the doors (wish I would have thought of the nose bump).

I'll try and post a pic once I get it out of a snow bank.
Posted By: Paul Winkelmann

Re: Using one way doors - 01/08/15 12:02 AM

What the heck is a nose bump? Is that something you get from a careless grandkid?
Posted By: trapperpaw

Re: Using one way doors - 01/08/15 12:56 AM

Eric you're pretty smart too. Paul a nose bump is something you get when you walk into a bar and impersonate Paul Winkelmann. Paul if you look at Brian's picture with your bifocals on and your face close to your 42 inch screen you see it on the floor of his trap right before the door touches the floor.
Posted By: Brian Mongeau

Re: Using one way doors - 01/08/15 01:11 AM

I called it a jump wall. The animal has to jump over it, putting him on the door, unable to get under it with his nose.
Posted By: trapperpaw

Re: Using one way doors - 01/08/15 01:20 AM

Sorry Brian I just realised I changed jump wall to nose bump. Paul jump wall is something you do when you get out of the bar after receiving a nose bump acting like Mr. Winkelmann!
Posted By: Paul Winkelmann

Re: Using one way doors - 01/08/15 03:49 PM

What an intelligent idea! And it wouldn't have to be very tall. If it's close to the door edge, the only animal that would experiment

with that door enough to get out, would be a raccoon. ( I'm really glad that more animals are not equipped with those "hands". )
Posted By: LT GREY

Re: Using one way doors - 01/08/15 09:39 PM

What's Lundy's web site.
People ask me all the time.
Posted By: Brian Mongeau

Re: Using one way doors - 01/08/15 10:13 PM

Originally Posted By: trapperpaw
Sorry Brian I just realised I changed jump wall to nose bump.


No worries, just call it Brian's Nose Bump Jump Wall. grin
Posted By: chrisobanion

Re: Using one way doors - 01/09/15 03:15 PM

genius
Posted By: Throw Back

Re: Using one way doors - 01/10/15 02:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Brian Mongeau
35"x6"x6". Long enough to catch a bunch and short enough to fit in my CO2 chamber. I also made a nose cone with flanges that stays attached to structure, just slide the right side in. It's a gravity door, so I added a jump wall. They can't get their noses under it.


How much to make me one?
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: Using one way doors - 01/10/15 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: LT GREY
What's Lundy's web site.


www.aestraps.com as Lundy said in his post LT!...Man, I can't get you to sell me tonquin OR read posts before posting.
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Using one way doors - 01/16/15 01:12 PM

Originally Posted By: mousie
scott baltz of minnesota makes some great ones but may have sold his company to another member on here. anyone know?


You are correct Mousie, I started AES Traps and Tools after LT was here in Minnesota with me in 2010... LT gave me rights to use "His" trigger that He developed years ago.

I started with a 4x4x18" trap and developed 9 different Trap Models and Several other configurations within those models. Also Developed the AES HD Trap separator tool with a Heavy Handle and double bar tine support.

These Products Sold Very well and Many ADC Men/women from this site and dozens others Use and Own AES products Now.

Because of Undiagnosed health problems at the time I sold AES Traps and Tools to Lundy and He changed the Name to http://www.aestraps.com/ ... Dave, His Son and Wife are continuing on with Quality Traps etc... and Have Developed many of their Own Ideas and features into this Trap and Tool line.

Incidentally I used the "nose bump" or Jump bar on a double door trap for Squirrels...it actually was in the trap to make the Animal slow down slightly , pause and change the pattern of its step to make the animal do what I wanted. That "restrictor" I believe in that particular trap was on the floor and also the side...it narrowed the area around the pan just for a moment... Mostly for the speedy Grey's...

Posted By: swampdonkey

Re: Using one way doors - 01/16/15 06:13 PM

The AES traps I have now, are the ones you made Scott ,and are the only ones I ever needed !..Thanks again Buddy ! grin
Posted By: 330-Trapper

Re: Using one way doors - 01/16/15 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: swampdonkey
The AES traps I have now, are the ones you made Scott ,and are the only ones I ever needed !..Thanks again Buddy ! grin


I noticed that Man, on the positive traps thread... I love your Pictures!!!
Posted By: Vinke

Re: Using one way doors - 01/18/15 05:41 AM

use small wire because the will eventually find a rock that will allow the door to be opened on the colonys
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