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Skunk essence question

Posted By: SA93

Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 01:05 AM

New trapper here just trying to get my feet on the ground in this hobby. I have read quite a bit about extracting and selling skunk essence but itís hard to find a lot of the simple details that experienced trappers might consider a Ďno brainerí. So Iíve been told buyers like you to collect the pure essence from what you get from the skunk but is there any use or market for the Ďmustardí? Also, if you wouldnít mind while you are here if you want to drop a few tricks of the trade that you have picked up along the way referring to skunk essence from storing, collecting, selling, etc I would super appreciate it!!
Posted By: Yes sir

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 01:27 AM

May I ask what part of Ks you from
Posted By: SA93

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 01:34 AM

Northeast!
Posted By: Yes sir

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 01:51 AM

There's some guys on here that are more experts about this topic than, hope they will chime in. One bit of advice I'll share is if you grind full pods (which I guess is frowned upon) keep your mouth closed at all times. Lol
I was hoping if you were closer you could come over and I'd show you how I do it. I just collect for myself but I don't mind the mustard in formulations.

Welcome to Tman
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 03:16 AM

Donít sweat the mustard it sells for the same price mustard in, not a good move to remove it to get less money for it. Store in glass only no plastic it will eat a hole in plastic in no time. Itís best to work with smaller amounts itís easier on your lungs I use 4oz Boston round lure bottles my buyer likes them also and itís measured for easy sale. If you drop a 4oz bottle your our $80 you drop a bigger bottle your out a lot more then.

Remove the pods to drain them you can milk the mustard that way and use the pelt, I drain the pods there is always leftover essence and mustard in the pods.
Posted By: John-Chagnon

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 03:28 AM

More skunk musk the better and it does not matter if mustard in my recipes. Just needs to be pure skunk.
Posted By: SA93

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 03:30 AM

Right now I just take a needle and syringe after I have skinned them and extract the essence that way. From there I have been putting it into glass baby food jars temporarily because I thought I would have to remove the stuff that settles to the bottom. So if Iím understanding right I would be able to just take all of the essence I can get out with the needle and syringe and just put it straight into my 4 oz boston round bottles and sell it as is?
Posted By: John-Chagnon

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 03:31 AM

One time I had a fella ship several medicine brown bottles full of pure skunk, it was a mess. I sent him some four oz glass bottles with metal lids.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 03:44 AM

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Posted By: SA93

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 03:57 AM

Are these dipped in wax? If so is it any certain kind of wax or just whatever is lying around?
Posted By: John-Chagnon

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 04:05 AM

Law Dog you want to cash in on that stash?
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by SA93
Are these dipped in wax? If so is it any certain kind of wax or just whatever is lying around?



Tool grip dip to seal the stuff in it has a way of escaping if your not careful.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by John-Chagnon
Law Dog you want to cash in on that stash?


Promised to my buyer he takes all I can get no problems he even picks it up, shipping the stuff is nerve racking.
Posted By: Bob Jameson

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 01:31 PM

Always keep the mustard in your essence collection bottle. Unless you establish a regular buyer that wants the mustard removed for their use. Mustard helps to establish authenticity of the essence. There are some that try to doctor the essence for their profit. Generally that essence is different in color shade, fluid consistency and has no mustard in many cases.
Posted By: John-Chagnon

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 03:10 PM

Very good point Bob about adding to authenticity of the essence.
Posted By: John-Chagnon

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 03:11 PM

That is great you do not have to ship, very nice looking product sir.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 07:50 PM

FYI civet essence will have a white grits looking fat in it and a lighter color yellow to quill.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by John-Chagnon
That is great you do not have to ship, very nice looking product sir.



Thanks I had to hold on to it longer last year because of Covid so he picked up 212 ounces between me and another guy that collects here also.
Posted By: SA93

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 08:55 PM

I sent a picture of the essence I have to a potential buyer and they noted that the color seemed off. It is 100% pure essence but its almost like a yellowy orange instead of the reddish brown I have seen others have. Any thoughts on what could cause this?[Linked Image]
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 10:00 PM

Keep collecting it should balance out as you go.
Posted By: Bob Jameson

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 10:11 PM

I have never seen any striped skunk essence of that color either in my days. Looks like mustard in the bottom and some fluid.
Posted By: SA93

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 10:55 PM

Itís so weird! Iíve collected from 6 skunks now and all of it is this color! I promise its pure but am worried buyers might not believe me smirk
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/18/22 11:09 PM

Iíve get some off colored stuff now and then see if it darkens with the exposer to light over time I know mine goes from a dark yellow to orange over time.
Posted By: 20scout

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/19/22 05:02 PM

I collected some this summer from one that looked more like milky water. Still smelled strong but separated from the rest. Siphoned it off and put it in a separate bottle. Any ideas? Skunk seemed healthy.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/20/22 03:15 AM

Iíve come across solid pods my guess a fibrous pod issue that had off colored quill, I have found a small amount of moisture at times that wonít mix that was just there very rare but it happens.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/20/22 09:27 PM

Here are common sized pods here we still get some regular size pods like other areas have but these hold almost 2oz of quill the jumbos hold even more stink in them.

Next to a 4oz lure bottle.

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Posted By: Turtledale

Re: Skunk essence question - 01/21/22 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by SA93
I sent a picture of the essence I have to a potential buyer and they noted that the color seemed off. It is 100% pure essence but its almost like a yellowy orange instead of the reddish brown I have seen others have. Any thoughts on what could cause this?[Linked Image]

Looking good.
You can sell all you collect
I've picked the road kills up just for the essence. Lots of times there not much in them, but some are full.
Posted By: Golf ball

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/03/22 09:38 PM

Are the skunks that spray upon dispatch still worth trying to draw from ?
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/03/22 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Golf ball
Are the skunks that spray upon dispatch still worth trying to draw from ?



Depends if it a spritz or a blast, a example a county guy called me on a road killed skunk not far from where I was at the time. I picked it up took it home thawed it out overnight then tried to draw essence from it. Maybe a half ounce out of it and yes it was off color my guess it lost more then a half ounce when it met the Goodyears.

I find the summer road killed skunks often have off colored essence in them my guess it body fluid related.
Posted By: Golf ball

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/04/22 09:36 PM

Thank you Sir.
Posted By: trapperrev

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/13/22 12:47 AM

Is there a time frame to draw it out from time of dispatch? As long as it's cool?
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/13/22 01:34 AM

They can sit for days if itís cool but if warm it seems the essence will take on water from the body like with road killed ones. Stay away from heat and moisture and the skunks hold up well.
Posted By: trapperrev

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/13/22 10:17 PM

Thanks. How to find a buyer? Does your buyer head south after he picks up yours, by chance?
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/13/22 11:41 PM

If you have a quality product you canít keep up with demand my guy takes all I can get for him or you sell in smaller batches on the Shed here depending what works the best for you. The longer you hold on to it the more that will evaporate on you I held onto mine for 18 months and had to top off several bottles to have full bottles when I sold.

Collecting is not for everyone lots of things to consider, here we have a lot of larger skunks that allows me to do better at it because of the size and quality of those skunks.
Posted By: trapperrev

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/14/22 04:38 AM

A couple years I collected some, put in 1 ounce bottles, then stuck in a peanut butter jar packed with dirt to seal off any escaping odor. I didn't realize then that it evaporated in time. Nor did I respect its caustic nature. I lost it all, some rusted through the metal lids, some evaporated away and left a residue in the jar. But...I didn't have a buyer lined up so it sat in the garage all year. For a couple years. Through the hot summers. And it was only from maybe 3 or 4 skunks over a longer period of time.

This last week I got 10 skunks, so far. Not sure if or how many more there are. I collected 9 yesterday and have a little over 4 ounces. Some were in body grippers and sprayed. The ones I poled had a fair amount but I don't have a lot for point of reference. I assume 4-8 ounces is a pretty small batch and I should offer it on the trapping shed? To be honest I'm a little terrified of shipping the stuff.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/14/22 05:30 AM

Offer a 4oz Boston round bottle in a clean bottle with a tight lid on it $80 is the going rate and over pack it in newspaper wrappings, plastic bags and I like a good peanut butter jar or qt paint can with good seals and duct tape on the seems. A lot of guys only want 4oz amounts often anyways as few people want a half gallon at a time. The 4oz bottle measures the essence for you easier then a random jar.

Seal it up and ship it right away never get your shipping materials near any strong skunk odors the cardboard will hold onto that smell even if the inside does not stink when itís packed. I put my boxes on the dryer over night to see if I can detect any odor in the morning if I do it gets repacked until itís good to go.

Donít try to cut corners on the packing to save on shipping if the Post Office tosses the box your out that amount the insurance is worthless then they ainít paying it. LOL Some guys add electric tape around the seal of the cap but good tape is hard to find, the stuff from China wonít hold after time itís useless.
Posted By: trapperrev

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/14/22 03:07 PM

Thanks! Very helpful advice! I'll see if I can find someone close first, if not I'll post it there and carefully ship it.
Posted By: 20scout

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/15/22 01:04 AM

I package mine in 4 oz Boston bottles like Lawdog suggested, make sure the lid is tight and dip the top into wax or plastic handle dip. When I ship it I put it in a plastic coffee can and fill it with cat litter. I like the stuff with baking soda. Secure the lid with tape and then ship quickest means to your buyer. Haven't had any problems yet.
Posted By: bearcat2

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/15/22 02:30 AM

You can also vacuum seal the bottle if you have a vacuum sealer. I've not shipped any, but I've done that to some I have in the shop, after a couple months you can get a slight smell if you hold the vacuum sealed package up to your face, but you can't smell it by just standing in the room with it, and it seems to contain all the smell for much longer than the time it would take to ship it.
Posted By: Bob Jameson

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/15/22 12:16 PM

Skunk essence is an amazing material. It is extremely volatile and near impossible to contain it completely it seems. I have been holding various quantities of essence for 40 years in many different containers with different caps and sealing methods. It all begins to bleed in time.

Once it starts to bleed slightly, that bleed continues and progresses with time which translates into volume loss. This vapor escape does the same disappearing act in a lure and bait over time. Just the nature of the material. It seems it isn't made to be contained. It seeks to be set free. smile
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/18/22 04:55 AM

Here is some fresh pods about to be tapped, let the stink begin.

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Posted By: Golf ball

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/18/22 05:26 PM

Law Dog Iíve only seen one guy extract essence and that was the veteran from Indiana. He used the needle while the pods were still attached to Pepe . I know your going to use the pods later but are their any advantages to extracting the pods before the essence ?
Posted By: Bob Jameson

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/18/22 06:37 PM

You will get a much more thorough essence draw once removed as shown. You can also massage each side you are drawing from to ensure maximum extraction.
Posted By: Law Dog

Re: Skunk essence question - 02/18/22 08:46 PM

What Bob said and less of a chance of getting the stink on the hide if itís marketable. Itís definitely worth the time to pod them out the pods have a value and the extra essence/quill adds up by milking the pods my buyer welcomes the mustard so itís a win, win to do it.
Posted By: RegularJoe

Re: Skunk essence question - 05/24/22 10:16 AM

I have 3 sets of pods frozen like that I need to extract. I remove them when i am skinning so i can strip the tail bone without worrying. I agree that nothing contains the stuff forever. I honestly don't mind the smell, it insures i get alone time too!
Posted By: Bruce Rhoads

Re: Skunk essence question - 08/02/22 09:37 PM

So any new ideas on getting maximum life out of your syringes?
Posted By: Bob Jameson

Re: Skunk essence question - 08/02/22 09:57 PM

You have to keep the rubber compression end of the plunger insulated from the essence as much as possible. If not, It will melt and stick to the syringe barrel in no time.

I keep a water / glycol mix handy in a 8 oz. bottle. I use this as a rinse agent and then draw a few CC's of the mix and hold it in the syringe until the next use. I keep extra needles I get from the farm store handy and change them out when they get like a basketball air needle.
Posted By: Yes sir

Re: Skunk essence question - 08/02/22 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Bruce Rhoads
So any new ideas on getting maximum life out of your syringes?

The syringes that are yellow or orange (at least at the farm stores around here) with the oring on the plunger seem to have a much longer life for me. Mister Mick taught me that one.
Posted By: 20scout

Re: Skunk essence question - 08/03/22 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by Bruce Rhoads
So any new ideas on getting maximum life out of your syringes?

I use vegetable oil after each use after flushing with plan water. And keep a few cc's in the syringe when not in use. Eventually you will have to replace they syringe.
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