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chainsaw mill #6732049
01/17/20 08:46 AM
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Picked up a Stihl 461 with a 25 inch bar. Looking to get a ripping chain to cut some boards off a couple oaks and cedars for a shed, I can find 24 inch chain but having no luck on 25. Anyone run into this? Heard good stuff about Woodland Pro over Oregon, any suggestions. Guess Ill buy a smaller bar if necessary but would rather just buy a couple chains to swap out.

Re: chainsaw mill [Re: jeffr] #6732064
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I ran a twenty-four inch bar on my Husqvarna when I was doing my milling. If you have a logging supply dealer around your area they might be able to fix you up by adding links but I'm not certain. I bought four chains when I first set out but wound up using just a couple of them. I used the mill to build my cabin and I got good at sharpening.

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Re: chainsaw mill [Re: jeffr] #6732212
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Stick with the stihl chain , it has bigger teeth and will last longer. I’m pretty sure that 25” bar takes 84 drivers , I will check when I get back to the shop . I’ve done a lot of research but not a lot of testing, testing is expensive. I run a saw for a living but this is my first mill , this is what I know for sure. Semi chisel will give you a smoother finish than full chisel ! Sharp full chisel will cut faster than semi chisel , semi chisel seems to cut longer without a sharpening ! You can rip wood with a factory chain and the original 30* angle, you will have better results cutting those teeth at 20* or better yet at 10* . I left mine at 20* for the versatility of being able to still use the same chain for felling trees “ poor people have poor ways “ and bucking logs to length. I think this is a matter of personal preference but I like semi skip over full skip chain , I feel that it’s a little smoother handling after a few hours.

Hope this helps,
Don

Re: chainsaw mill [Re: Posco] #6732232
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Originally Posted by Posco
I ran a twenty-four inch bar on my Husqvarna when I was doing my milling. If you have a logging supply dealer around your area they might be able to fix you up by adding links but I'm not certain. I bought four chains when I first set out but wound up using just a couple of them. I used the mill to build my cabin and I got good at sharpening.

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Awesome Cabin!!!


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Re: chainsaw mill [Re: jeffr] #6732250
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Three numbers to know, stamped on bar.
Gauge, pitch, and driver numbers.

If all else fails, take the bar to a good saw shop that will make the chains you want.





Re: chainsaw mill [Re: 330-Trapper] #6732317
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Awesome Cabin!!!

Thanks, 330. If you ever make it over and up this way I'll give you the grand tour.

My mill did a great job slabbing the logs. I tried to take just enough off to give me a good bearing surface between the logs. Chainsaw mill cutting speed is measured in minutes per foot, not feet per minute. I jest somewhat. It's slow going.

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ya im familiar with the 3 numbers, just not finding the right size to fit the bar. Its a 3/8", .050, with 84 drives. Was going to work with my stihl chain and have heard varying stories on the need for actual ripping chain. That Wranglerstar guy seems to have no problem with factory chain. Thanks for the tips, and good looking cabin

Re: chainsaw mill [Re: jeffr] #6732344
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Originally Posted by jeffr
ya im familiar with the 3 numbers, just not finding the right size to fit the bar. Its a 3/8", .050, with 84 drives. Was going to work with my stihl chain and have heard varying stories on the need for actual ripping chain. That Wranglerstar guy seems to have no problem with factory chain. Thanks for the tips, and good looking cabin


I bought ripping chain and I think 10 degrees is what most folks recommend. I have two saws and could dedidcate them to different uses. One for bucking and cutting notches and the other for slabbing. If you look at the pic I posted of my mill you'll see sawdust to the right side of the picture. It's not like the chips you get from felling a tree or bucking firewood, it's powder.

You might be better off by buying a 24" bar.

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Ignore the inches and buy from the numbers. Some manufacturers lie about and change things to make people think they can't find any but theirs.
If you measured that bar then measure anther brand with same numbers..

Stihl chain is hard metal and not easy to file.
I liked Carlton, Oregon, and lately Archer.
I use Stihl chain too, I also have a grinder.

They all cut when sharpened proper.





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Thanks wright brothers and golf ball for input, called the dealer i got it from and they verified that drive chains determine the fit not the inches listed on the bar. Going to try a ripping chain as well as differing chisel types to start.

Re: chainsaw mill [Re: jeffr] #6732661
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You may find interesting: click here .... My Cabin with an Alaska Chainsaw Mill on Trapperman:

Also, about a hundred bucks (if I remember correctly) purchased 2 ripping chains for my 36" bar, from Grandberg (the people who made my mill). I was happy with the cut and finish. If interested, click here....
Granberg Ripping Chains

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Re: chainsaw mill [Re: jeffr] #6733526
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Originally Posted by jeffr
ya im familiar with the 3 numbers, just not finding the right size to fit the bar. Its a 3/8", .050, with 84 drives. Was going to work with my stihl chain and have heard varying stories on the need for actual ripping chain. That Wranglerstar guy seems to have no problem with factory chain. Thanks for the tips, and good looking cabin




order the ripping chain from oregon. that is a common chain you need.


72???J 084
72 is .050, J is skip chain, 084 is the drivers. I don't remember the ripping part without looking in the book

Re: chainsaw mill [Re: jeffr] #6733564
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I run a Stihl 25 and 36 inch bar on a 661 Saw for milling and now for everything else as well as I love that saw. I bought a Copy of the Oregon grinder, But a CBN wheel on it and made some bushings for the thing to make it more accurate. Then I made my own milling chains out of the stock stuff you can get of the shelf . Invest in a half way decent chain grinder and a CBS wheel is about as chap as you can get away with milling on an Alaskan mill
Just my 2 cents worth

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Re: chainsaw mill [Re: jeffr] #6733634
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What kind of mill is that Posco?

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Originally Posted by feathercast
What kind of mill is that Posco?


It was made by an outfit in Florida that went by the name of Pantherpro. I just checked their site to provide you with a link and it looks like they are out of business. At least for the time being.

Re: chainsaw mill [Re: jeffr] #6733768
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Originally Posted by jeffr
Thanks wright brothers and golf ball for input, called the dealer i got it from and they verified that drive chains determine the fit not the inches listed on the bar. Going to try a ripping chain as well as differing chisel types to start.

Do yourself a favor and buy a regular crosscut chain and sharpen it to 10deg. It is way cheaper than a ripping chain. I bought a ripping chain from Granberg and they are expensive. My chain I bought for regular cutting after I sharpened to 10 deg. cut just as good. I have a problem getting it to cut at the 10 deg. if I sharpen by hand, but when I put it on my Grinding machine comes right back great. I use the Alaskan chainsaw mill. Built a nice trap/storage shed with it . Looked like I cut it with a Woodmizer mill. Friends couldn't believe how good it looked.

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