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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Cragar] #7319401
08/01/21 09:48 PM
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Pork producers have no say in this. The packing house conglomerates will tell them what to do. That's the problem with the whole system. The 3 big packing entities control the entire market.


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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Cragar] #7319885
08/02/21 02:05 PM
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Pork should get cheaper for us normal folks then, no?

Demand should go down since Cali. consumed 15% of our production with only 4% being produced there. Suits me.

Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Cragar] #7319916
08/02/21 03:02 PM
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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: hippie] #7319920
08/02/21 03:08 PM
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Prices will get lower until the supply meets demand, just like the short fur market is going through currently. Hogs can cycle pretty fast when compared to dairy, beef and some of the other common meat animals, but not as quickly as poultry can. Due to the fact that most large meat chicken and laying firms buy almost all of their feed, thus very limited land and machinery it is easier for them to leave the houses empty when prices go below production costs, much more similar to trapping then many of the other meat producers. One of the major reasons many smaller producers are at a cash based take it or leave it market is that they don't have the numbers or lbs. etc. to fill the contracts and also not the cash to cover the margin calls when prices exceed what has been contracted.

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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Cragar] #7319922
08/02/21 03:16 PM
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I have family in Los Angeles county who have been in the wholesale pork business there since 1943. I received an email from them this morning saying this will likely put them out of business along with destruction of 65 well paying jobs they provide.


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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Cragar] #7319983
08/02/21 04:52 PM
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Once them yuppies realize Bacon comes from pigs,,they will change the law. grin


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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Cragar] #7319991
08/02/21 05:00 PM
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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Cragar] #7320007
08/02/21 05:22 PM
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The real concern here,is that once again,the activists are having an impact.Maybe this will wake up those who still insist we can ignore them and they'll go away.


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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Buck (Zandra)] #7320027
08/02/21 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
The real concern here,is that once again,the activists are having an impact.Maybe this will wake up those who still insist we can ignore them and they'll go away.



When will the folks with half a brain say enough is enough and put a stop to the madness.


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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Law Dog] #7320032
08/02/21 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
The real concern here,is that once again,the activists are having an impact.Maybe this will wake up those who still insist we can ignore them and they'll go away.



When will the folks with half a brain say enough is enough and put a stop to the madness.

Exactly.A few years ago I saw on TV where a representative for a AG group in a state where the activists were making a lot of noise said"we need to have a dialogue,we can find common ground on these issues"..I was about screaming at the TV. "Haven't you people learned a thing?" I used to hear trappers and hunters say the same thing back in '70's and 80's.There is no common ground with these people.I would have thought we all knew that by now.


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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Cragar] #7320047
08/02/21 06:25 PM
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You guys don't remember the egg problems just a few years ago;
their producers said NO to the size of the laying hen ages and just shut down
so they went from 88 cents/doz to 4$
How long did that play out for.

One thing it is going to do is have a whole lot of squished piglets as momma lays down would be my opinion.

Are you not sure that China is in this whole deal, since they take 28% of USA pork and own 25% of the plants processing. More for them.

Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Cragar] #7320051
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This was passed by referendum on California,proposed and supported by animal rights groups and vegans.The general population bought it all,hook line and sinker.It doesn't matter how they did it,or who all backed them.What matters is the inroads they are making into our lives.


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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Cragar] #7320064
08/02/21 06:53 PM
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More bacon for me win/win!


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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Law Dog] #7320085
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
More bacon for me win/win!

Hahahaaa YUP.


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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Cragar] #7320149
08/02/21 08:38 PM
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Can't think of a better excuse to go to war with California than this.

Mike


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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: white17] #7320160
08/02/21 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
I have family in Los Angeles county who have been in the wholesale pork business there since 1943. I received an email from them this morning saying this will likely put them out of business along with destruction of 65 well paying jobs they provide.


Could this be blessing ? Not trying to be a smart az but perhaps it's long overdue they pull the plug on commifornia

I still have 3 cousins ( the last of all our family who left 40+ yrs ago ) that stayed in Cali and fell victim to libtardism

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Re: No more bacon in California [Re: Law Dog] #7320161
08/02/21 08:54 PM
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