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Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Wolfdog91] #7319185
08/01/21 05:51 PM
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I like Rand Paul, but I don't think he would make near as good a President as say, Ted Cruz. I believe Rand Paul is right where he needs to be. The President may be the face of the nation, but he really isn't all that powerful, if he doesn't have the backing of the Senate and House he can't really accomplish much. Both Obama and Trump proved that a President can accomplish something if the Senate and House are spineless and go along with it, but if you have people with backbone in Congress the President is basically a talking head. He can make deals with foreign powers, (this, foreign policy in general, by the way is why I believe Paul is best where he is) but in most cases that still has to be approved by Congress.
The last two administrations have constantly went on, and the media echoed and amplified, calls for Congress to "do something" and quit blocking all "progress" proposed by the administration. Meanwhile I was thinking, they are doing something, as a constitutent I WANTED my representatives to "block progress" on things like Federal Healthcare. I'm assuming Democrat voters wanted the same thing of their representatives when Trump was in office. This is the checks and balances built into the system by the framers. Meanwhile those in positions of power want the brakes taken off their drive for whatever they want to push through.

Re: Politics everywhere [Re: James] #7319186
08/01/21 05:52 PM
08/01/21 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by James
I didn't vote for Romney, but I will if he runs again. I respect the backbone he's shown by standing up to Trump.

Which is a lot more than spineless Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, who have even more cause to hate Trump, have done. If either of them runs again, I'll vote another ticket.

Jim

And this is assumed fact. This is exactly what everyone expected of the liberal lawyer.


your only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: Politics everywhere [Re: warrior] #7319242
08/01/21 07:10 PM
08/01/21 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Rand would be a good choice, imo. But first before we have a CINC noted for what he won't do based on principle we need the swamp drained and folks jailed.

Someone that will knot up a whip, overturn the tables and clear the temple of the den of thieves.


If we returned to sound money principles the swamp would be drained overnight.

Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Steven 49er] #7319248
08/01/21 07:19 PM
08/01/21 07:19 PM
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Georgia
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Originally Posted by warrior
Rand would be a good choice, imo. But first before we have a CINC noted for what he won't do based on principle we need the swamp drained and folks jailed.

Someone that will knot up a whip, overturn the tables and clear the temple of the den of thieves.


If we returned to sound money principles the swamp would be drained overnight.


True, cut out the money laundering and funny money.

Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Wolfdog91] #7319250
08/01/21 07:21 PM
08/01/21 07:21 PM
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
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That ainít gonna happen with a vote.


-Goofy-
Re: Politics everywhere [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7319259
08/01/21 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
That ainít gonna happen with a vote.


I agree, the temptation is too great.

Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Wolfdog91] #7319263
08/01/21 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Christ y'all.....


Surely you didn't think this post wouldn't be political? LOL

Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Wolfdog91] #7319288
08/01/21 08:05 PM
08/01/21 08:05 PM
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Wolfdog91 you started this post by asking why people were so wrapped up in politics and it has fallen into a my side your side like always. Human nature is what's wrong . Some people just have to pretend they have the answers.

Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Wolfdog91] #7319304
08/01/21 08:19 PM
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We do have some truthful answers rex123 thanks to our molding.
Just not all of 'em.

Blessings,
Mark


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Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Wolfdog91] #7319329
08/01/21 08:46 PM
08/01/21 08:46 PM
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Ya who started this political thread? LOL eek


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Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Wolfdog91] #7319345
08/01/21 08:59 PM
08/01/21 08:59 PM
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Amite county Mississippi
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Would be nice if folks would post on trapping threads this much again........


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Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Wolfdog91] #7319357
08/01/21 09:09 PM
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most folks have too high of an opinion of themselves and too low of an opinion of anyone who disagrees with them...


America is not burning it is burnt.
Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Marty] #7319410
08/01/21 09:55 PM
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Politics is everywhere and always has been and always will be. Poli is Greek for "of the people" It is just a matter of how pervasive we want it to be and also how biased we want it to be to fit the opinions of all of us and it is not just a USA thing. Politics in all nations, cultures, religions etc. We are obviously not getting any better at finding civil ways to govern or live with the differences we have. We are fortunate in the US that we can ahve really rigid political differences and still find ways to live, work and grow as a society. There are a lot of nations that are unable to do that. When there is little to lose and not much to gain in sight then chaos and anarchy are not much worse then what one has at the moment.

Bryce

Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Marty] #7319412
08/01/21 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
most folks have too high of an opinion of themselves and too low of an opinion of anyone who disagrees with them...


Agreed.


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Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Wolfdog91] #7319421
08/01/21 10:08 PM
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Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Wolfdog91] #7319442
08/01/21 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Would be nice if folks would post on trapping threads this much again........

Season is just around the corner.

Re: Politics everywhere [Re: bearcat2] #7319492
08/02/21 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
I like Rand Paul, but I don't think he would make near as good a President as say, Ted Cruz. I believe Rand Paul is right where he needs to be. The President may be the face of the nation, but he really isn't all that powerful, if he doesn't have the backing of the Senate and House he can't really accomplish much. Both Obama and Trump proved that a President can accomplish something if the Senate and House are spineless and go along with it, but if you have people with backbone in Congress the President is basically a talking head. He can make deals with foreign powers, (this, foreign policy in general, by the way is why I believe Paul is best where he is) but in most cases that still has to be approved by Congress.
The last two administrations have constantly went on, and the media echoed and amplified, calls for Congress to "do something" and quit blocking all "progress" proposed by the administration. Meanwhile I was thinking, they are doing something, as a constitutent I WANTED my representatives to "block progress" on things like Federal Healthcare. I'm assuming Democrat voters wanted the same thing of their representatives when Trump was in office. This is the checks and balances built into the system by the framers. Meanwhile those in positions of power want the brakes taken off their drive for whatever they want to push through.


I love the smell of gridlock in the morning. It smells like victory!


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Re: Politics everywhere [Re: Blaine County] #7319537
08/02/21 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by James
Great. Another champion pivoter.

Jim


That's kind of my point. None of them are principled people. A few are more than others are but still not reliably principled.

There are no heros to be found in government. I vote for who will affect me (including taxes) and my rights the least.


I'll admit I don't follow day to day activities of Washington DC, if you would, could you give a particular instance or two where Senator Paul has "pivoted" as you put it?

For the record I'd prefer a candidate such as his father although I don't believe a person in their 80s is qualified anymore to be president of the US.

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