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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Hern] #7381789
10/18/21 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Hern
What earth anchor & driver works in your area? Super Stakes? Berkshires? Wolf Fangs? Pogos? Duckbills? Others?
Why?

Depends on soil conditions as stated by all here. Wolf fangs and 3/32 cable 18-24" holds coyotes in the silt/loam and stoney ground here. Make sure the anchor is secure by pulling very hard on it in multiple directions!!!!

Last edited by powderfinger; 10/18/21 11:32 AM.
Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: ~ADC~] #7381857
10/18/21 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
I only use them for water sets but for the price they can not be beat. 1/2" conduit and the driver. You can't pound them in hard ground but they work great in our creek banks.

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I make mine similar, and use them everywhere. What happens if you pound yours into harder ground?


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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: robert.d12] #7382044
10/18/21 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by robert.d12
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
I only use them for water sets but for the price they can not be beat. 1/2" conduit and the driver. You can't pound them in hard ground but they work great in our creek banks.


I make mine similar, and use them everywhere. What happens if you pound yours into harder ground?


If you can get them in the ground, they are going to hold. They get bent and stick on the driver and such if you have to hammer on them. I prefer them where I can push them in without hammering much.

Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Hern] #7384695
10/21/21 03:36 PM
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I use pogos, and about 16” chain.

Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: The hammer] #7385088
10/22/21 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by The hammer
Thanks Hern!



I looked at your videos on Youtube. Very good. Could you private mail a contact email, a website or someway to get in touch for checking on those drags and other items?
Thanks.
Mac



Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Hern] #7385093
10/22/21 06:10 AM
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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Mac] #7385126
10/22/21 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mac
Originally Posted by The hammer
Thanks Hern!



I looked at your videos on Youtube. Very good. Could you private mail a contact email, a website or someway to get in touch for checking on those drags and other items?
Thanks.
Mac

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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: ~ADC~] #7398510
11/06/21 09:14 PM
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I make anchors nearly identical to these. This is my first year trapping and I am running in some fairly sandy ground (not sure if that matters). I pulled a few sets to relocate today and when trying to reset them I could not get them to turn and "lock in" instead they just pull straight out the same way they went in. My driver is a peice of rebar with another smaller piece welded parallel on it about 1.5 inches from the bottom could the driver be punching to big of a hole making it to easy for the anchor to just back out. Any and all advice is greatly appreciated I am teaching myself how to do this


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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Lookin4skunk] #7398529
11/06/21 09:41 PM
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Makes sure that where your cable attaches to the anchor is forward of center.


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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Seldom] #7398588
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It is slightly forward of center very possible not far enough. My first batch of anchors I used a small eye bolt to attach the cable and the ones that didn't break when being driven (allot of trial and error to get my driver where it is now) hold very well. I just got a bunch of Ferrules an a swager and am using those to fasten with now that shouldn't cause my problem I wouldn't think though.


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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Hern] #7398720
11/07/21 07:56 AM
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Ive been a double stake rebar guy for about as long as I can remember. This last couple seasons got a little tired of lugging all that weight way back into sections I have to walk into. I only carry one driver and my digger hammer. I have a cold rolled heavy duty bullet stake driver, and I ground the end to a point so that it will also drive berks well. The driver can be used to make a pilot hole first too if necessary.

So, the #2s and #3s coyote traps all have bullet stakes on 18" of cable.
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And I went couple steps further with my weight lugging savings.
All of my 1.5 coon/mink/rat traps for water sets get standard berks on 20" cable.
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And all of my DPs get heavy berks on about 18" cable.
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Last edited by jabNE; 11/07/21 07:58 AM.

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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Hern] #7398816
11/07/21 10:55 AM
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I’ve used them all over the years trapping in over a dozen states. It really all comes down to the soil conditions where a person will be trapping. Here, I can use chained super stakes with #3 chain and still not retrieve them without breaking them. I get about 50% of them back.


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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Hern] #7399221
11/07/21 08:27 PM
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I use MB Super Stakes on #3 chain, and one of Southern Snare's "Performance" heat-treated drivers. We have extremely hard ground and they hold up great!

Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Hern] #7400793
11/09/21 06:22 PM
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Use primarily Wolf Fangs with 10" of 1/8" stainless cable topped with 8" of #3 chain for coyotes and general trapping.

Super Stakes and 18" of #5 chain for wolves if there is a season.

And occasionally double 1/2 x 24" or single 3/8 x 30" T stakes depending on application and target animal or when I didn't bring enough of the above along.


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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Lookin4skunk] #7400903
11/09/21 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lookin4skunk
I make anchors nearly identical to these. This is my first year trapping and I am running in some fairly sandy ground (not sure if that matters). I pulled a few sets to relocate today and when trying to reset them I could not get them to turn and "lock in" instead they just pull straight out the same way they went in. My driver is a peice of rebar with another smaller piece welded parallel on it about 1.5 inches from the bottom could the driver be punching to big of a hole making it to easy for the anchor to just back out. Any and all advice is greatly appreciated I am teaching myself how to do this

Remember what side the cable is on and pull at an angle in that direction, maybe.


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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Hern] #7400923
11/09/21 09:30 PM
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Used standard Berkshires for decades. Make them up with 20 inches of 1/8 inch cable and double aluminum ferules. Depending on the soil I sometimes do a pilot hole with my home made driver.
I watch for old wooden cable spools that the phone and power companies discard. I take the long steel bolts out of the spools and make my drivers out of them.
I also watch for people getting new garage doors installed. Lots of the old doors have 1/8 steel cable being discarded. Usually there is a good coil of cable being discarded from each side of the door. Makes a lot of cheap anchors.
I have held plenty of critters with standard Berkshires including some mighty big "Puddy Tats".
I made up some Wolf Fangs and bought a driver. I have only used a few of them as they are to difficult to drive. I have had both shoulder joints replaced.
I also leave them in the ground and use them for many years. I always check them each year to make sure the cable is still strong.

Last edited by Larry Bowden; 11/09/21 09:34 PM. Reason: added additional info

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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Hern] #7405962
11/15/21 08:38 PM
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Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Hern] #7412725
11/23/21 04:52 PM
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I have a (stainless) custom made driver, extra length, extra wide T handle made for a Wolf Fang / Desert Spear type head.
I can , using a long handled 8 lb sledge hammer, drive an 18 inch cable stake to the proper depth, remove it and never kneel down

Re: Earth Anchors & Drivers- What do you use? [Re: Hern] #7412733
11/23/21 04:59 PM
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I have a (stainless) custom made driver, extra length, extra wide T handle made for a Wolf Fang / Desert Spear type head.
I can , using a long handled 8 lb sledge hammer, drive an 18 inch cable stake to the proper depth, remove it and never kneel down

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