Lure and Trapping supply prices !

See June is now at $7.50 an ounce on his lure! I understand that people are trying to make a living off this industry. It’s just kinda disheartening with probably the worst fur prices we’ve ever seen , everything around us is going up in price. I encourage everyone to cut corners that makes sense try to keep your cost down. Make your own bait lure etc...

I refuse to cut corners.

I think $7.50 is fair considering one fox will buy almost two ounces of lure.

I need every legal advantage I can get...I'll continue to buy the best quality lure I can.

I will continue to support small business. I will not cut corners. Cutting corners means fewer catches, go with what works.

B

Good lure is the cheapest thing on your trap line. Just stop and think about how many critters you can catch on one ounce of lure.

What lure maker is getting rich with castor prices at over $50 a pound? Rat glands at $50 per pint. Record hi prices for mink glands and that is if you can find them. Lol Where are you finding all the cheap ingredients to make your lure more affordable? In 1990 you could buy nice castor for $8.00 a pound, lure sold for $3 per ounce and good western coyote brought $15. Do the math. Ingredient prices have more than quadrupled as have coyote prices and current lure prices haven't come close to quadrupling.

I started the lure price increase. Here's my post about the increase. Mike, perhaps you can understand things from my perspective.

"Due to the increase in cost of producing my lures, I had to raise my lure prices. As I stated recently on here, I was making very little on my lures and needed to increase the price if I was going to continue offering them for sale. I wanted to give y'all a heads-up, so that when you went to order lures, you'd already know about the increase.

I could have diluted the lures, or used inferior ingredients to keep the prices the same and make more profit. However, the lures would have suffered and I have too much pride in my lures to do that. I'd prefer to get out of the lure business before I'd put lures out there that were not up to the standards they have been over the years. Besides, dad would have a fit if he were here and knew I had lowered the standards on the lures he formulated.

Anyway, now the prices are as follows.
1 ounce - $7.50
4 ounce - $25.00
pints - $80.00
Bait Solution - $25.00
Beaver and Bobcat Medley - $20. per pint"

Here's the post - https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6211221/Lure_price_increase#Post6211221

And all this time, I thought you guys worked for free.

Postage just keeps going up even the PO flat rate stuff is no longer a deal at $7+ for the smallest box now it was under $5 a few years ago!

Another thing to consider is that a lot of those bottles of lure are sold by lure makers at wholesale price to dealers for resale, which squeezes the profit margins even tighter. The market is the market. Will be interesting to see how things play out.

Everything has gone sky high. Checked the price of Lanoline lately? Sticker shock. Just finding any quantity is a challenge. Freight on a pallet of glycerine from back east. Sticker shock. And it isn't getting any better. I hate raising any prices, just hate it.

I’m just glad my office doesn’t get complaints about how much Lure is in a bottle. I wouldn’t want to have to open a bunch of bottles to check the net contents. Since they are glass I would need to open all of them to get the tare weight of each bottle. No thank you!

I get it it’s not a knock to any lure maker out there why do it if you can’t make money ! I assure you the price of a NC coyote hasn’t tripled! I will continue to buy June’s lures because they catches fur but I will try to keep cost down anyway I can! I think that’s just good common sense.

I hadn’t seen your post but I get it.

These are one of the few things (lures) that are still made in North America. Be glad there isn’t any foreign steel or aluminum in them or they’d be higher yet.

I haven't bought bait this year, but I wonder if those prices are going up too. What about trap prices...

I've only been to North Carolina 1 time about 13 years ago on business. Mr Dobbins i sent you a package and a letter awhile back telling you what I thought about your products and your price increase and if you stop making backbreaker or change the way you make it I might have to make another trip and there might be some furniture moving, Lol .like I said real trappers know quality and that's what you make. Spending a few extra dollars for quality is always a good idea.(PLEASE KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK)

They told us about a year ago lure prices were going up.Heck lure makes been taking it on the chin for a long time.Personally I don't know how they made a profit at %.00 this long.And no I am not a rich man I am on a fixed income.

Heck, I feel very fortunate to have great lure and bait makers....I’d pay more just to use their products...

Not sure what I would do if the great makers around here were not making lures and baits...

I’ve always thought the pricing was very fair....

I just work overtime to make it happen...I figure 8-12 hours of overtime is easy compared to making any lure or baits...
Plus I’m clueless on where to start...

I use to think like you, but know I'm trying to build up a line of lures. "What was I thinking" lol it is fun to work up a batch and test it out i learned a lot in the 5 years.

I no smokers who pay 8.00 for a pack of smokes per day.

Good lure is a great investment.

I hate to say it but I think a lot of good lures and baits would be considered underpriced if I was the owner of the company
The fur market for the most part is deplorable to say the least. I feel it is very difficult to show any profit for most trappers on the line today that do not use "trappers math".

What a lot of trappers do not think about when purchasing a lure is the hours of grinding, bottling, testing, tweaking, more testing, and on and on.
I have fooled around making some lures since the 1970's. Coming up with a consistent reliable lure is more work than most realize.

I would not discourage anyone from the enjoyment of making some lures to test out of their own, but I would suggest going slow. I have a fair amount of money tied up in quality ingredients such as muskrat musk, top quality fish oil, civet, caster, oil sacs (I can supply my own caster and oil sacs most of the time) and on and on. You can get a fair amount of money tied up just sitting on a shelf waiting to be put into formula and tested.

I too cringe when I place a lure or bait order so I am discerning. But then again I cringe when spending any money! LOL
It costs money to make good lures and baits so I am willing to purchase good stuff.

If I want to cut expenses I look at streamlining the operation. I am getting older so this is a bit tougher in some instances. How can I be smoother? How can I be faster? How can I cover more ground? How can I use less energy yet produce better results? How do I analyze accurately just what I should be doing or which fur should I be concentrating on? How much time and energy can I expend and keep up with other duties? All difficult questions of varying degrees.

No trapper wants to see supplies, lures etc. go up, but no one expects to see them go the other way either. Good stuff pays.

Mac

i'd pay twenty an ounce and still feel i got the better end of the deal.somewhere somebody got the idea a trappers time is free.

how do you get by with only one ounce of good lure?

if you don't think what your using is worth the price don't buy it


except for a few guys trapping western coyotes and cats your not going to have any profit even if the stuff was free.

you could just go to 100% blind set foot traps and snares

If lure and equipment prices were pinned to fur prices, everyone would be out of business.

Steel and stainless steel are up considerably. Everyone is gonna get sticker shock when they compare trap and supply prices to the year before! Nothing can be done, we live in a capitalist society, suppy and demand, but if folks don't make enough money.....why do it? That is the bottom line!

Mic, I have 2 things in the works. And you just keep making that gland lure and we won't need to buy anything.

Evidently a lot of folks DO think that lure can be the magic bullet that'll catch em all.

I have dabbled a little bit with making my own baits and lures, and I will GLADLY pay someone else to do it. I am better suited to do other things which make money to purchase quality products made by Americans.

Too the trappers that complain. It's a tough fur market right now but if coon and fox were up in price like in the 80's lure price would not matter. You don't have to buy lure ,go without it or buy cheap junk and see for yourself how being cheap has set you back. I have been trapping for over 60 years and to this day I don't know any rich lure manufacture. Get in the game for trapping and stop complaining like the cry baby's on social media.

Quality doesn't cost, it pays.

I can appreciate the effort and dedication that goes into making a quality lure. There's a lot of pride, effort and cost in every bottle.

If you have a favorite lure that works consistently year after year for you then you would pay more then they are asking now!

water trapping i'm a 99 percent blind trapper,especially with the low coon prices.i like to play with mink and beaver glands and am more than willing to pay somebody that knows what they are doing to make my lure.can only conquer so many mountains in one lifetime.

I enjoy dabbling in lure and bait making and use it at quite a few of the sets for beaver but I KNOW it is nowhere as good as these guys that have years, thousands of dollars and knowledge plus multiple field testing all over the country. I always have the proven lure along as well. The concentration, consistency and multiple ingredients melded together I cannot get like they have. What I make is simple stuff. I will be buying lure in Escanaba.

H Fitzgerald, you don't know what Mic catches, clearly.

Anyone who's commented on fur prices, nafa, nta, lure cost, gas prices, etc is a crybaby? C'mon man.

People are more than welcome to buy as much of whatever they want with their own money. But it's not all that necessary in my humble opinion.

It's a tax deductible, isn't it? Expendable supplies.

Keep some records and I expect you'll find lures are relatively cheap at the new and improved price. That said I use lures sparingly, I think some use it like it was bait instead of lure. Some sets don't even get lure.

The lures didn't get more expensive, the money got more worthless.

Like Law Dog said I would be willing to pay way more than current lure prices for my go to lures. The higher prices only hurt when we are trying new lures(and we all can’t resist doing that).

2x on tjm

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I can.

You are going to have to pay sales tax on anything you order as soon as the states can get their systems up and running and traps and everything else coming from over seas will have new tariffs so If I needed anything I would order it this week. You will be ahead of the game to order several years supply now.

X2. I know of a good NY fox trapper that caught 34 red fox on a one ounce bottle of lure. That makes $7.50 an ounce sound like chicken feed. About 21 cents a fox.

I’ve found buying my lure in 4 oz bottles helps cut the cost considerably.

3 or 4 of them make a huge lump in your pocket though.

Wait till you see the fur prices next year your most likey really going to have something to cry about. Save coyotes and the best western cats its going to be rough especially with gas going up. The guys making lure or bait are not into it for recreation nor the fur buyers or auction houses just the trappers. If you don't like the prices don't buy it or sell it.

if you cant stand the heat .....get the heell out of the kitchen

Just make your own. Everyone has to start some where. Yes I know it's easier said than done but when a fox can be caught on cheetos I'm sure I can figure out something that will work lol

Just bought 20 oz. of Canine Call yesterday... that'll go a LONG way... and it only hurt once.... still a few dealers out there holding the old prices, until they restock I assume. Lure cost is a small part of the equation these days.

I'm sure most luremakers will trade lure for glands,so a trapper that catches any amount of fur should be able to get his lure at no real added
cost.
With the price of castor where it is now,I find it more prudent to sell castor and buy beaver lure.

Good lure is all profit for a knowlegable trapper, pays for itself over and over and over.......

With fur prices currently in the tank the use of lure is even more important in connecting with the target species.

You can use just about anything to catch anything however the time lost making a set that plugged with an undesirable species is still a cost.

If you don’t post for awhile you just forget how smart people are on this site! Buy American, id pay $20 an ounce , taxes, coyote prices have tripled , crybaby lol it’s hilarious

Naturally, some were talking about this at the FTA today. Some of the vendors mentioned how their costs have skyrocketed. Some said there will probably be some lure makers that attempt to cut corners to keep their prices lower than the competition. So us trappers will have to be cognizant of that.

Ya Lee price of steel, wire, gas etc has gone way up. first time in 6 years we raised our prices. John

More people will try making their only lure, but that's easier said than done.

I would be upset to get a lower quality product. I would prefer to pay more to keep getting what I've been getting for years.

Paul Dobbins

Andy Weiser

Mark June

Charlie Masheck


Charge more if needed and keep quality , please

I have not the time or knowledge to make my own. Thank you

Not here to complain about prices I get it cost money to make, I also get it cost to much for some to buy. I get it I do. But this whole I'm in it to trap just for trapping just for the challenge just for fun on and on and on. Yeah well if that's the case why does everything warrant a lure, every thang I've every caught on lure I've also caught in numbers blind, ive also been able over the yrs to make serviceable baits and lures. I don't buy lure eny more don't use much but if I bought it id get allot of sets from 2 or 3 oz. When looking for location with a blind set mentality it don't take a lot of lure cause your on location, if your in it for recreation quiet the high roller longlineing stuff slow down and get on location then use pro made lure home made lure or blind sets to take your fur, even with the down turn in short hair and the dead southern coon market "proffit" can and is being made. But most of them guys don't through money at every thang to make it work!
Look at the Midwestern mink and coon guys no lure blinds sets and baited pockets, BAITED you can make a lot of bait fairly cheap. Test it through the summer you obviously got time if your on here argueing then take it and catch your fur. Been tons and gobs of fur put up with no lure! All kinds of fur. Use it buy it make it or don't who cares!!!
Colt

No one ever likes price increases but when I think of how many sets I make with a 4oz bottle of good lure the price per set is extremely low. Half a Q-tip soaked in lure tucked in backing rounded table spoon of bait down 12 inch deep hole and done. I have a friend who traps near me that I watch pour lure at lip of hole who will use 5 times as much lure as I do making considerably less sets. When I got back into trapping I followed the instructions on a bottle of Lenons Coyote All Call and used a dab the size of a bean and it worked so I have tried to stick to that amount to this day plus I am as big a cheap skate as you will ever find. Need to research how to remove glands and store them so I can take them to Hoosier Trappers Supply and let them get some good out of them.

Some will complain about lure about lure price increases but, continue to dispose of skinned animals with out removing glands and meat to be used as bait and lure, traded for bait and lure, or sold out right. Not wanting to argue here. Just stating observations. Example would be selling fur on the carcass.

Selling in the round is an option, maybe 1 that will become more lucrative than it has been, who knows.

I think it’s a great and deserved by quality lure makers. This will also allow us to sell glands and castors at higher prices to lure and bait makers!!

Chappy

Trapping may be like Dairy farming-if you don't already have the land and the equipment, you can't afford to start losing money by doing it.

Do you guys know what some of your state conventions charge for a darn table for a dealer? Some are now as high as 75 to 100 per table. Plus there hotel, food and fuel and not to say buying what goes into lure, bottles, labels, jugs etc. We been trying to hold our price down but don't look like it staying down much longer.

Got in an order of Lenons today and noticed they will increase their prices in August but they are still a real value. First time I have ordered from new owners and I was really excited that the lures were the same quality that I always got from Asa. Best part of today was that a local guy who traps was at the house when they arrived and started poking fun at the fact I ordered 3 four oz. bottles of Weasel Super All Call. I let him have his fun and said that I was going to try for a few this year. One of the best mink lures out there and I have caught several coyotes with it also. I really appreciate the fact that Asa took the time to pass his lure making knowledge on to the new owners as well as posting on here and answering questions.

It's been coming for years, it was more a matter of who would be the brave soul to raise prices first.

I understand the need totally and since I don't have the time, knowledge, space or patience to make my own I don't mind them raising prices especially if they keep their original formulas and high quality.

I wonder how many guys will use their lure 'collections' up instead of paying more for the same product? I know I will. Im glad I stocked up a few years ago.

As a lure maker for 34 years commercially, I appreciate the understanding from many of you on the lure price increases. Most lure businesses are family owned and operated and the profit margin pays the bills. It's actually a dwindling art form, much like many of the outdoor vocations these days. Fewer and fewer folks go outside and fewer still want to grind animal glands on a hot spring day.

Now you know why the J Hook Tool price needed to be increased. Material,time and shipping.

Some folks can be read like a book.