The War that Made America

Most today tend to only think of the Revolutionary War but I know there's many opinionated history buffs in here that think othwise.

So what war do you feel made America?

For me I feel it was the Fench and Indian War.

Others feel that America wasn't truly a recognized nation till the War of 1812.

Others say we were not united until the Civil War.

Then we have either of the two world wars that pushes the country to the international power that it is and what we know today.

The Revolutionary War does define America, but the French and Indian War and the War of 1812 also had a big influence on shaping the country.
Interesting topic!

I personally don't think that any war made America, it was the people. War was always just a means to an end to obtain or continue freedom and a way of life wanting to live. Think about it.

Never thought about it in that manner.

Quick thoughts are both against what was considered the most powerful military of the time and we rose to the occasion. The Revanutionary and war of 1812.

To me, these bought us our independence.

I like the war of 1812 because we fought with Boco's ancestors. LOL

Now you done it! Had to go there, didn't you.

Spanish American war is the one that established the US as an international power and established a US presence in the Pacific

Boco is British? You say we fought his ancestors? Just asking as we fought the British.

Providence is what created America. Nothing more,nothing less. IMO.

Good point. That really started American Imperialism.

The Revolutionary War created America. The War of 1812 produced American global trade in the Clippers. The Mexican War shaped Manifest Destiny. The Civil War federalized America. The Spanish American War was the stepping stone to global Naval power. Both World Wars turned the United States away from capitalism and into socialism by Wilson production quotas and FDR national socialized corporations. All wars since have been debt wars to return the bribes from two world wars back to European banking which has America entering the community disorganized era or the state choice of communism or socialism to be managed under.


Edit: The war which the United States did not fight and should have, was the War of 1866, immediately after the Civil War, to punish the French in Mexico and the British in Canada for daring to instigate the abolitionist war with planned invasions from Mexico and Canada of the United States. What stopped the Europeans was the Russian Imperial Navy came to Lincoln's aid and parked off the coast of the United States.
As Theodore Roosevelt stated, America by right should have taken everything from the Red River west in Canada as it was American by right. America still has right to northern Mexico as it was Texas lands.
There never was American Imperialism. That is a leftist charge to pinion the United States. America lost because she did not fulfill her destiny as American Continentalism. America is in the process of being balkanized and that America will not survive in Lincoln's house divided. The plot of 1861 succeeded in the plot of 2008.

Enlightened post

Star-flakes is close but all our wars created debt. Even the revolutionary war, which our founders levied an alcohol tax to pay for it. Hence the whiskey rebellion.

Although America was late getting to the fighting,I would say the second world war is what made America a world power to be reckoned with.This was due to their economic might.

Well said J Staton and Star Flakes.

an economic might made possible only because we hadn't travelled down the Socialism Road very far by that time...

I think the Louisianna Purchase really helped make America.

I really like your take.


If all those which had the biggest impact on today's America?

I still say the French and Indian War.

1866: good point and also the Louisiana Purchase. We bought the Louisiana territory because a of Frances war debt.

1866: would've been good to help our southern neighbors. Maybe they couldce become a stable neighbor and we wouldn't have the problems we have today.

The Civil War created the country we have today. It flipped the ship. No longer was it the people, the state, the federal government, it became just the opposite. It created the bloated bureaucracy we have today.

...yessir....spirit of 1776 died in that war....the wrong side won

Prolly the most accurate statement Boco ever made.
lol

Remember how we won the war of 1812 Boco! Good old King George we really left it all on the table for him and won the war of 1812! To bad we sold Tucahmssa and his confederacy down the river. But then we would own Detroit and nobody wants that.

Aristocracy marshmallows getting rich off the backs of earners is the most liberal socialist idea there is. Glad we straightened that out.

That's funny Pike River. I would argue that northern textile mill owners and those who worked in that thriving industry benefited more off the backs of plantation workers than the majority of southerners in that era.
Just because southerners held to the idea that the country should be made up of individual states(that decided their own way), instead of being controlled by a federal entity much like a king, did not make them wrong even if slavery was wrong.
A prime example of how it should work is abortion. If the people of the state of Arkansas decided that abortion should be illegal but Wisconsin thought it should be legal, then each state would choose it's on path. Morality, society, technology, etc. would decide the final outcome whether on the state level or national level. That's the spirit of 1776 that was lost which Savell mentioned.

....Mr Staton ...it’s best we just let the high and mighty bask in this glory they’ve created.... after all, is there anything better than an egalitarian society where a mans only goal is to be lower than the lowest common denominator?

....profound nonsense lol

There is no single event that made the U.S.A. what is today. It is a cumulative effect.

While it is 100% true we have less freedom today than we had just 50 years ago we still have a lot. In fact we have less than we had even 30 years ago.

Seems like people are waking up to the fact loss of liberty is not good. People who own TV stations and other media outlets are still trying to control what we think but it seems to me that every day fewer people will stand for it.

Nailed it.

clearly we would not be the US without the revolutionary war

the French and Indian war was a great trainer for the revolutionary war , but it didn't make the revolution happen.

every war since clearly shaped the America of today.

but the American revolution didn't have to happen, had events been different April 19th 1775 all that had transpired before would very likely not have taken us to war.

Apparently Providence wasn't on the side of the folks who lived here before the arrival of the white man.

The slaughter of natives, as well as the slaughter of settlers was not the works of Providence but rather the works of the Adversary. Unfortunately this is to often the case even in today's world.

Providence along with Manifest Destiny are simply arrogant and racist concepts used by Christians to excuse the atrocities they committed during the destruction of native cultures throughout the Americas.

Jarhead

The only ones I know claiming Providence being used as an excuse are the ones who stand against Providence and in alliance with the Adversary.

If the adversary is the devil described in genesis its a fairy tale. The advisory doesn't exist. Unless your loving benevolent creator created it, and if that's the case how could he truly be the adversary? Wouldn't the adversary in fact be a benefactor? The only other possibility is the entire thing was made up by some ancient desert chieftain to help him maintain power and control of his tribe.

Probably would've ended up being southern Canada.

Maybe it the War that coming up next. We're to divided any more.

I love history. I think we just scratched the surface on this topic.

Your narrative was full of the typical socialist propaganda that is so prevalent today.

So I accurized it up for ya.

Mike

Only time I've seen this country united was 9/11, and then it was only for a few weeks, then it fell back into what it is now and worse, due to the politics we have, and that is due to those who will not be educated when they vote.

This country for one reason or another has always been divisive with it's self, during all wars, and during any economic crisis it fights within it's self for any kind of positive progress !

The only war that was even close to total support was the second world war, because of a country trying to take advantage of a sleeping giant, we were caught off guard because of ignorance !

yep

One war that is often forgotten,is the 1845 war with Mexico.The defeat of Santa Anna,and the land he was forced to give up,greatly increased the size of our country.
Many now wish,that the Mexicans had kept California and the nut cases that state harbors.
REMEMER THE ALAMO!!!(1836)
Tom

It has been all down hill since we lost the second war for freedom to Lincoln.

The war that made America was the French and Indian War. After the Brits won the war It was the reason the British taxed the heckl out of the colonies, to pay for the expense the British crown expended fighting it. That is what pushed the colonials into the Revolution.

Had the French won and controlled the North American continent, the colonials would probably still be huddled in settlements along the Atlantic coast. The French had a better policy of dealing with Native Americans, and were only interested in exploiting the fur trade and other resources, not more European immigrant settlement expansion.

A great book to read about the seven years war/French and Indian war, is Johnson of the Mohawks.

Not so much the war as what America did after each one. Stood tall and proud and moved on.

Can't rattle Boco cause he was defeated by a stroke of a moderator and is history.