Biden's biggest blunder

I know there are many to pick from, but the question everyone seems to be asking is, "Why would Biden trust the Taliban to cooperate in the evacuation of Americans and their allies, both of whom they hate?" It seems like such an incredibly poor decision that people ask, is he that stupid (and all his advisors), or is he/they intentionally trying to undermine America?

Biden gave a couple of answers in recent days that may explain. A few days ago he mentioned that if the Taliban want to be recognized as a legitamate government on the World stage, they will cooperate. Yesterday, when asked why he trusted the Taliban leaders, he said he didn't, but expected cooperation because it would be in their own best interest. (again I assume to attain that coveted legitimacy). He must have really believed that was a substantial incentive.

Joe Bidens incredible blunder was assuming that Taliban leaders aspirations must be the same as his own. How could they not want the carrot he was offering, one that he has worked his entire career for. Recognition as a powerful government leader. Fly around to other countries, meet with other important leaders and pretend to care about big issues like womens rights, racial injustice, human rights abuses, etc. but never really doing anything about them. Threatening lesser countries who refuse to comply with the prefered world order that they may be strongly rebuked! Attending events in exotic places with the likes of John Kerry, and his counterparts from other countries, to lecture the little people on how they should be living to fight the existential crisis of climate change.

In Joe's mind and world view, how could these poor Taliban leaders not be willing to do anything for the power, respect, admiration and prestige he was offering.

I was kind scared to open this thread...... was afraid he out did himself AGAIN. Not sure if I wanted to see anything worse

His photo will be hung on many Talibans walls in the future, the Terrorist of the month club.

As far as his blunders, helping conceive Hunter would be up at the top.

The only thing the tali and is-k want recognized is a worldwide islamic caliphate.

Not reversing the Trump EO that bans my customers. Maybe next year. Not holding my breath.

No commit. Ask Savell.

You really think this is sleepy Joe? He's just a puppet.

Don’t assume he peaked it’s only his first year almost this clown show is not over not even close.

Its one thing to dangle a carrot another to give the carrot away and dangle a string

It’s early…Biden will easily top this ef up….he still has over 3 years left

I said he wouldn't make it 6 months. He did. I still think he will be replaced before the year is over. He won't make it a full term. No way.

There have been so many, how do you know which is the biggest?

You assume he did....

With as many current and former military he has urinated on, how does he sleep through the night without one eye open.

I hate to hear that Dirt. Who are your customers and why are they banned?


As to the OP, I agree, the taliban has no desire to set at the table with the US unless they're packing C4 under their dresses.

ol'dad

Oh, just let msm get their meat hooks on a different story! America will eventually forget, people's attention spans are shorter than a two year old's anymore. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I doubt it!

Unprincipled people like the Bidens don't understand, or get the concept of holding to principals. Principals are ideas, concepts, and beliefs that you hold to regardless of changing circumstances. In other words, if you are a principled person you don't change your position just because it may be more profitable, comfortable or more convenient to set aside what you believe.

The Taliban and those like them have very strong principles; I don't agree with their ideology one bit, I think they have evil principles. But, they do hold to them very tightly. Amoral people like the Bidens have no concept of that.

Also curious what EO is hurting your business.

"Presidential Proclamations on Novel Coronavirus"

"On January 25, 2021 President Biden signed a proclamation continuing the suspension of entry of certain travelers from the Schengen Area"

They are banned because ................ they are impervious to testing and vacination. You got me.

So, Europeans are banned from coming to the US? I didn't know that. You should tell your customers they can come through the southern border no problem.

Interesting post, Walleye, and you make some valid points. Biden does appear to have made the mistake of assuming the Taliban think like we do.

Bush II made a similar mistake. He thought we could bring democracy to a people craving it. Twenty years later, here we are.

Jim

We did smuggle one through Mexico. He had to spend two weeks in Mexico and then he had to test and then he could come. He is not an oppressed refugee, just somebody who wanted to stimulate the American economy. It's no wonder he was banned the easy way.

I think that is a common mistake that we make. We're looking at a society that has been ruled for centuries by inter-tribal violence and a violent religion. Compare that to Judeo-christian view of the world and the rule of law........sort of.......and one size does not fit all.

Some here won't like it or admit it but after the Soviets left, Afghanistan was chaos created by competing warlords. The Taliban actually imposed some stability so that commerce was possible without each warlord 'taxing' every shipment of goat cheese and opium over the section of highway they controlled.
The Taliban took control of the highways and taxed goods once, allowing commerce to grow.
Of course they also imposed sharia but that too imposed some stability ........as reprehensible as we might find it.

Personally, I believe that is why they were able to take over so quickly. People want stability. Some are even willing to sacrifice their liberty for it. They don't have a history of freedom, private property protections, or codified law.

Why do we think we could put that in place in a mere 20 years ?


IMO Biden's biggest blunder............like most all politicians..is hubris. The result we now see is a kakistocracy

I've learned that a lot of the time, you're right in your predictions. But I'm confused. The first 5 paragraphs of your post seem to be saying that the Taliban are the best suited to rule a country like Afghanistan, even if we Westerners find that incomprehensible. And I understand and kind of can agree with that.

But then your last statement is that the result now is a kakistocracy, which I had to google. Google says it's: "government by the least suitable or competent citizens of a state."

The result we see now, though, is rule by the Taliban, right?

Correct Angela. The kakistocracy is HERE . OUR government.

I changed gears. First part was responding to James and the hubris comment was directed at the OP's question

Ahhhhh ok, gotcha now and totally agree! Knew the hubris comment was directed at Biden but still didn't connect that the last sentence was, lol.

I believe he was referring to Biden, not the Taliban in that last statement.

"IMO Biden's biggest blunder............like most all politicians..is hubris. The result we now see is a kakistocracy"

I type too slow.....

White

You are not alone with when you think some societies can't function as a Republic or Democracy
The question is have we lost the tools to operate as one.

"They " gave him a list.
He doesn't know a blunder from total victory.
"They " will determine what his worst blunder will be.
He will take the fall for "their " decisions.
Such is the fate of a puppet.
Who are they?

Who are the "certain travelers" that are banned? Whatever it is that you do, it must be a pretty niche market. Sorry to hear your livelihood is affected by it.

Ol dad

You surely aren’t talking about a foundation, are you?

This should be titled Bidens biggest blunder yet! I think he is just getting started.

Man, I wish you were wrong.

The upcoming war in Afganistan is calculated to distract the American people from the Election fraud audit and results there of. These lefties have no respect for human life, or American lives, and will do about anything to stay in power. IMO.

Valid point as well Jim, but here is what I think is one difference.

We often speak/think in generalities. Bush's assumption may well have been correct for a substantial portion of the Afgan population. I suspect there were and still are plenty of women in Afganistan that craved democracy and freedom from Sharia Law. That matters little even if the majority would have preferred democracy, if those in control are not interested.

Bidens blunder was trusting those in those in control, who got there by being the biggest and badest of the Taliban.

Joe would be a good rodeo clown as Bomba was.

That would be tourist. I tend to care more about things presidents do that actually affect me. I really don't care how the nation building program is failing again.

You ought to care, Dirt. We sank over a trillion tax dollars into that particular futile nation-building exercise.

Jim

The money is gone. They will print more.

I guess I don't think it was a blunder. I don't like it or agree with it, but figure it is going just as planned for the ones pulling the puppets strings. Maybe Congress sold that equipment to them. Someone is making money off this.

Ya, cuz only dollars count.

Are our men and women worth anything to you?

We are only a few months in, the biggest blunders surely lie ahead.

You're right. I was remiss.

Jim