? I'm shooting an X3, stock or pattern master ICL and getting excellent patterns out of that particular brand and losd Plus BOSS legacy ammo. Although I prefer the 1-3\8 oz load. I found a great deal on Fiochi bismuth as well, hated it at first , but figured it out eventually. By the time I was thru a box I was hammering ducks at 45 and cleaning up escaping crippled ducks at 60

Swamp/Jurassic, that’s the general consensus amongst my buddies. Of course laying actual eyes on him would help. One buddy said he’d pay to have the tooth analyzed so they could be right or be able to rag me for the rest of my life for shooting a young buck with great potential, lol!!

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Here's a couple comparisons of where I'm at with it. The one is with the patternmaster that I consider usable. The other is by far the best pattern I had up to to the point of the patternmaster and I believe it was more of a fluke as I shot that same choke and gun 3 other times and had in the upper 40's in the 30" circle, anything under the .700 constriction was in the 30's-40's on the entire paper at 40. The good news with all this headache is by the time im done pattern, ill only have half a case left to get shot up.

41 in southren Indiana with a mist

On a roll in the same set, third coon

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LOL....gone come morning time.Need at least a foot of snow to track deer.

Awesome.Congrats

roasts and ground meat the best ways too go

I think people mainly talk coyotes when it comes to topics like this because they’ve become the dominant canine throughout most of the country save for a few pockets of good fox numbers anymore.

1450 fps. I did a little more work yesterday and cut open a shell out of curiosity. I knew better than to buy anything heavy brand but did it anyway and found the payload to be short of advertised. I counted 120 pellets vs the 140ish that should be in there given the pellet size and payload. Thats not a deal breaker given the inconsistencies in bismuth pellet size in general but I do know now that all my patterns will be missing 20ish pellets from what I was expecting and to judge my patterns accordingly. I did shoot the patternmaster I had on hand yesterday and shockingly it gave me a usable pattern to 40 yards. Kind of defeats the purpose of what I bought it for but at least I have something good enough to be able to get it shot up as all patterns before that just weren't usable. May do a little more testing. I reached out to trulock as ive had really good luck with them in the past and they're good people to deal with. Im still thinking something in the .680 constriction range in the sx3 may be the sweet spot as the .700 was all over the place and the .665 was much tighter but lots of holes and flyers leading me to believe its overchoked and blowing patterns at that point.