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One way doors #3171267
05/24/12 04:14 PM
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Has anyone ever built an excluder for fox? Got another den under a concrete patio that is under a wooden deck. And a one way door would work awesome

Re: One way doors [Re: TJP] #3171411
05/24/12 06:04 PM
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I can see the excluder working if you can get all the pups to use it. Otherwise, you will have a very unhappy fox besides having a very unhappy customer. Unless Kansas foxes are different than ours, you only need to catch one or two pups before the entire family completely abandons the den.

P.S. I did that three days ago. ( Of course then I nailed three large opossums trying to take advantage of all the free goodies that the adult foxes had dragged in.

Re: One way doors [Re: TJP] #3171431
05/24/12 06:21 PM
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You can convert a standard safeguard one door trap with a rear release slide door into an excluder, or any spring loaded wire door cage trap that has a slanted door and a rear release door.Remove or detach the spring lock on the locking door so the door moves freely without locking.Dig the burrow to allow the trap to be slid into the opening created to accomadate the trap.

Slide the rear of the trap into the trough created for the trap. The trap door opening should be set out front so when the animals go to leave the den they must push thru the hingeing door which will close after each animal exits.Sift dirt onto the wire bottom of the trap for better acceptance. Do not over fill with dirt where the door opens and closes.

I do raccoon exclusions under decks,patios etc. as well as foxes this way.If you want to build or add on a holding pen large enough to accomadate all the pups and adults possibly you can have them waiting for you when you return many times in one or two trips.

Re: One way doors [Re: TJP] #3171641
05/24/12 08:44 PM
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Sell them a deck exclusion ,then just leave part of the wire uncovered and there's your one way door


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Re: One way doors [Re: Peskycritter] #3171727
05/24/12 09:40 PM
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Tomahawk makes a 9 inch excluder that would work.
I think Bobs idea is Einsteinian. Pauls idea is a very good one and will work. Pesky you have a lot of good simple solutions but I'm thinking letting the fox di under you exclusion would still allow back and forth movement if they didn't die under the deck. I might be missing something on Peskys' suggestion.
Go get it done and get your check.


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Re: One way doors [Re: TJP] #3171852
05/24/12 10:56 PM
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There not going to die , they will crawl out under the wire and won't beable to go back in . You just do a normaly exclusion then leave part of it uncovered with dirt . After there gone then fill in the dirt . Can't say I've ever do that with fox but it works on every other kind of animal .


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Re: One way doors [Re: trapperpaw] #3172003
05/25/12 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted By: trapperpaw
Tomahawk makes a 9 inch excluder that would work.
I think Bobs idea is Einsteinian. Pauls idea is a very good one and will work.


Like Vinke always says, .......... Welllllll..... ,,,,,, Where's the pictures???


Really though, a couple pictures would be good for these threads.


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Re: One way doors [Re: 330-Trapper] #3172029
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Originally Posted By: 330-Trapper
Originally Posted By: trapperpaw
Tomahawk makes a 9 inch excluder that would work.
I think Bobs idea is Einsteinian. Pauls idea is a very good one and will work.


Like Vinke always says, .......... Welllllll..... ,,,,,, Where's the pictures???


Really though, a couple pictures would be good for these threads.



X's 2... photos calm alot of talk.

Re: One way doors [Re: wiggler] #3172050
05/25/12 07:03 AM
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330 and wiggler you guys are right. Livetrap.com will take you to tomahawks web site and the excluder is 8x8 not 9x9 as mentioned. I think Bobs one way is better and everyone has one. I know set up is the best picture but the catalog will give you enough to visualize both set ups. This is my last post until I learn how to post pictures. I appreciate peoples pictures also. For a long time I have been posting but feeling like I was inadequate...like bear hunting with a 22 magnum. It works but when it doesn't it is very noticable. I have got a lot of pictures thru the years that still apply I just look a little different in some.
The next time you see me I'll be in pictures.


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Re: One way doors [Re: TJP] #3172089
05/25/12 07:57 AM
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The reason I devised the exclusion system I use is that they didnt have such devices many years ago so I had to improvise to make things work with what I had.I have tried Peskys system once with fox and coyote dens under buildings and decks but I did have some dig back issues at the den opening. Canines can challenge you and the things you do if you give them a hint suggestion.Some predators will just move at times also because their security has been compromised in their minds.

Here are a few photos of a cage trap / exclusion device.



This photo shows the spring lock door bar wired back to the door to prevent it from functioning.Now the door will move freely up and down without any resistance and can be removed to be put back into normal single trap use when needed.



This shows the front door apron that I attached to prevent raising of the door by coon or fox in an attempt to get back thru this doorway.This extended door apron platform will be under the animals feet when attempting to open the door way from the front, thus preventing this from occuring.It is just hog ringed or cage clipped into place. You could use zip ties or wire tie off pieces if need be.



This shows the view that the animal sees upon entering the exclusion area from the den burrow entrance.The slide door of this safeguard has been removed to use in this application.I fill the wire bottom with dirt up to the door way to reduce caution and refusals.



This is a close up contrast view of the front of the door way showing the apron and golf ball I use to hold the door corner up the height of the ball. This gives the animals a breeze way thru to begin the first exiting. Typically the ball will roll away or be knocked aside after the first exiting animal. The following animals will then have to push the door themselves to get out. Once one is out the others will follow quickly and easily as the first animal will remain around the door way coaxing the others to come out and play.



A little further back to give a better view of the door way.




A ground level view of the doorway set up.



A side contrast view of the doorway set up.




A side contrast view of the doorway set up that I use.

This set up can be used with most spring loaded door traps and those with a rear release/access door. You can use a solid back door trap if you wish and designate that trap as an excluder only by cutting the back wire square from the trap.It can then be hog or cage clipped back together when needed.

Re: One way doors [Re: TJP] #3172951
05/25/12 07:55 PM
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I added some photos to my last post for a little show and tell since some pictorials were requested.

Re: One way doors [Re: TJP] #3172958
05/25/12 08:00 PM
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I would just like to add that besides being ahead of the game in trap design, if you guys try Mr. Jamesons lures, you won't be displeased!

Re: One way doors [Re: TJP] #3172963
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They are not for human consumption. smile

Re: One way doors [Re: TJP] #3172982
05/25/12 08:11 PM
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Well now I'm embarrassed. With this crowd, I should certainly have added that disclaimer.

Re: One way doors [Re: TJP] #3173062
05/25/12 09:07 PM
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Hey bob I think I just found a purpose for my tractor supply traps!! Thanks for the pictures

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