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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: On a Call] #3274409
08/15/12 05:38 AM
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There have been several posts on the internet over the years of guys using funnels and being successful. I can,t find any right now.


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3275425
08/15/12 05:25 PM
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ok people lets see some pics

this is the trap 12x12x48

picture of the spring from the top outside

picture of the door spring from the end of the trap

the trigger device in set position

the view a beaver has when he enters the set trap.


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: trapperguy22] #3275547
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Here are your pictures you sent me to post.


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3276140
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Very nice . I'm glad I asked . The trigger system looks nice . I need to make me a couple . How many beaver will that hold at one time you think


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3276210
08/16/12 02:41 AM
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On the 12x12 the builder said he has gotten 3 in one an adult and two yoy he said it was packed tight.


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3276508
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How long has this trap design been around for


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3276685
08/16/12 11:38 AM
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The 12x18 size one is mine and I have had 3 adult beaver in that trap at one time they were all 50 pounds. The wire gets a little stretched but that's it.


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3276724
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sounds like a good idea

Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: pnwmtnmn] #3276727
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Originally Posted By: pnwmtnmn
ok people lets see some pics

this is the trap 12x12x48

picture of the spring from the top outside

picture of the door spring from the end of the trap

the trigger device in set position

the view a beaver has when he enters the set trap.



I want one of these.

Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3277036
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I know very sweet trap . I'll have to ask the DNR if that trap would be legal for fur trapping . I know for ADC I'm good to go . It's not really a colony trap like the man said . I might even make a muskrat size one . If you did catch a turtle in that it could still catch beaver . I could see that trap really shine for them spring beaver in these feeder creeks . Fall I could see a problem with salmon . It also looks like the trap could be made to be folding . Wonder how much a trap like that would have been worth back in the mountain man days


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3277131
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Originally Posted By: Peskycritter
I know very sweet trap . I'll have to ask the DNR if that trap would be legal for fur trapping . I know for ADC I'm good to go . It's not really a colony trap like the man said . I might even make a muskrat size one . If you did catch a turtle in that it could still catch beaver . I could see that trap really shine for them spring beaver in these feeder creeks . Fall I could see a problem with salmon . It also looks like the trap could be made to be folding . Wonder how much a trap like that would have been worth back in the mountain man days


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3277242
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Don't know bout mountain man days but nowadays it is $120 ( that is for the one with spring loaded doors)


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3277851
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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3277966
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I could make them for the 120$ but the states that really use them are so far away it makes the value of a "live catch" stronger cage more universal for me. So unless I got a lot of offers it is not going to happen. Shipping is a killer. If they cost more, most want a trap that is more universal.

Someone making them on the west coast or in Mass. would do the best with that exact design.

I already have a trap called an otter trap on my website that is about that price and will do more for about the same price. It does not sell as well as the other small beaver trap cause the other does so much more.

The picture provided by trapperguy22 was a good one also. That trap would have a better shot at two beaver. Both work under the same principal.

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What about the doors for making colony traps for beaver. Would bars be better or wire? Would the wire be best if longer or wider than 1x1?

What about the angle of the doors? Do the animals enter better steeper or more sloped? How much does length of the trap affect how the doors work?

Are there any pictures of the actual sets with beaver in them? Showing the sets and how it is used would be good.


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3278058
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Great concept that will have applications. Length, due to the outward internal door configuration is the thing to beat but may now have a solution. Whole thing should be very economical. We made some ridiculous stuff probably 15 years ago but never pursued it. Glad to see it is rolling. Should be very doable.

Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3278381
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I just like them traps that catch more than just one animal . Animals run or swim in 2 or 3s . I'm not looking to sell traps . There's no way I could ever compeat with company's like tomahawk ect . My dad has one heck of a fab shop that setup for production . I don't mind helping out sometimes when he needs my help to get a big order out . I'm sure someday I'll take that over as I do already have a product that are family has made all mylife . Standing in a shop all day drives me nuts . I cant see that trap being a big money maker biulding and selling them . I can see it making money set in chanals . It's not a replacement for my 330 traps . Spring beaver migration and putting a trap like that out on a 3 day check could be a good thing . Them deep long runs in open water that trap looks good for that . Culvert trapping I can see that trap just loading up . It's hard to say what it will do . Just have to make one and see if I like it . I think I will put that on my need to do list . If that works maybe try one that folds up . Nice to see things like this and thanks for sharing. Your design .


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3278778
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I'll get Bernies contact info and put it on here monday.


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: pnwmtnmn] #3278963
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Originally Posted By: pnwmtnmn
I'll get Bernies contact info and put it on here monday.

Pnwmtnmn,
I received the below posted pictures from someone in Washington in 2006. I lost contact with the sender. I seem to remember that his name was Bernie, could have been you though. He was a member of this forum. Look familiar??



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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: Peskycritter] #3279389
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Looks like bernies traps but it wasn't me that posted those pics. That trap doesn't have springs on the doors, his original style.


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Re: Colony traps for beaver anybody making them [Re: pnwmtnmn] #3364006
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Would these be baited, as well as placed in runs or tunnel entrances?

What would they be baited with, being underwater?

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