Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN
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05/23/13 01:35 PM
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Robb Russell
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Realize it isn't the sidebar anyone is looking for here, but I would avoid the feral hog discussion Hogs are such prolific breeders that just shooting or trapping a few won't do much good. It's about like stomping a roach on the kitchen floor and expecting it to make a difference. - Rod Pinkston I agree with you Justin. {just through a different pair of eyes my friend.} What really makes these Govt guys any better. Look at our own talent before you sell out a very successful private entity . And considering your background and documented expertise New Mexico would benefit by making you their hog czar and get back control of their own feral swine problem. If POTUS really wanted to get rid of feral swine in the USA he should appoint Rod Pinkston his hog czar. . I am certain if the government gave this private business JagerPro the same federal funds the money would be better spent . What is so wrong with saying a private wildlife control company does the job better. I am told many WS trappers have considered themselves feral swine experts after watching his JagerPro videos and DVD's. lol Example: http://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/predato...-kill-wild-hogsUSDA WS has never made any difference when it comes to feral hogs. Unless they intend to fly machine gun mounted helicopters and disclose real body counts why waste the tax dollars on a federal agency that can't even account for the tax funds they are receiving from the American people now.
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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN
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05/23/13 02:17 PM
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Wildlife2
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Realize it isn't the sidebar anyone is looking for here, but I would avoid the feral hog discussion, more funding and coordination are the only things that will eliminate feral hog populations and anyone including the govt. doing so must have both to make something happen. States like FL and CA where policies confound the work being done including in CA selling GAME TAGS for hogs will make eradication impossible for anyone. In NM a multi agency task force is having a very positive effect and changing the tide in feral hog population spread. Will this be the same everywhere? Nope, but I would hesitate to throw stones in the direction of invasive species, they are better at it and it used to be my job to plan and coordinate it. They (USDA) can't overthrow private landowners and others who harbor and spread hogs which is the real problem with feral animals of any kind, it is not possible to kill off a population of invasive species, or reduce disease issues, etc... without landowner support, because we do not live in a country where you can just usurp the private landowner for such things at this time. (Though this is done with invasive weeds in the western U.S.) *********************** The rest of the discussion is interesting and entertaining and also telling of the separation within the "industry" being represented by various sides here. I'm not jumping in on this discussion for any reason other than to say I would avoid the feral hog or invasive discussion. Until a bunch of private guys form an entity of size and scope to do statewide or regional feral hog programs with landowner and interagency support, this one is best left alone. ************************ Again, interesting discussion though on everything else! This is how they get their hands into new areas. There are companies that can handle these issue if given the chance, you just have to think a little bigger and give the private sector credit. As I said before there is no evidence of them being successful and this is not a new problem they have been dealing with them for decades with no rustles this is just another funding tactic.
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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN
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05/23/13 02:48 PM
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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN
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05/26/13 03:22 PM
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Paul Winkelmann
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Thanks wildlifeus, this study, being only a couple of years old, I found it kind of amazing that I knew practically everyone mentioned, including the author. Some of these guys, that I know, are PHDs and all I am is a CWCP.
Yeah, not only have I seen it but I've met the speaker and think very highly of him.
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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN
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06/19/13 03:12 PM
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wildlifeus
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Paul, Isn't this nears you? USDA gets three contracts to do gull work in Two Rivers WI...... http://www.htrnews.com/article/20130618/...?nclick_check=1
Tim and Robb you were an inspiration. Thank you for your dedication to the industry. Working everyday to reduce the size of the federal government.
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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN
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06/19/13 03:50 PM
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DAVE SALYS-CWCP
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Thanks wildlifeus, this study, being only a couple of years old, I found it kind of amazing that I knew practically everyone mentioned, including the author. Some of these guys, that I know, are PHDs and all I am is a CWCP.
Yeah, not only have I seen it but I've met the speaker and think very highly of him. Paul most of the phd's I know can't wipe their own behinds or tie their own shoes. Now a CWCP can do most anything including surviving a ladder fall, twice.
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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN
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06/20/13 12:50 PM
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wildlifeus
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Did you know that USDA Wildlife Services has a contract with ALDOT to do beaver work state wide? http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_damag...bama_report.pdf
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Tim and Robb you were an inspiration. Thank you for your dedication to the industry. Working everyday to reduce the size of the federal government.
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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN
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07/01/13 12:24 PM
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wildlifeus
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Why don't they hire someone in the private sector instead of relying on tax payers? http://www.capitalpress.com/content/SE-wolf-money-070513
Tim and Robb you were an inspiration. Thank you for your dedication to the industry. Working everyday to reduce the size of the federal government.
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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN
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07/01/13 01:27 PM
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Robb Russell
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Urban Rodent Control should consist on getting the rats out of DC. Interesting and even responsible action would be if they closed down USDA Wildlife Services just like the White House. Govt is broke and plans to shut down 10 active US Army brigades located in the US and put 80,000 soldiers on the streets unemployed. We need a stronger military more then federal rat catchers. Just saying!
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