Re: ADC Pricing Advice
[Re: ahb70]
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06/21/17 03:13 PM
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Your phone will do a lot of ringing when you work for nothing. A lot of things will change when you start charging. Is this going to be a full time job or a part time job. It will depend on your service area and a ton of other factors. When money hits the table you have a lot of other responsibly to the customers and to other that are in this type of work. There are a lot of cost that go into the cost of running a business. I get about 85% of the jobs I look at. But you have to remember I am in a rural area. Not much help, but I am sure the full time guys will jump in. One thing I never do is try and under cut the competition. I just do my best to give better service.
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
[Re: ahb70]
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06/21/17 04:35 PM
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I closed, well sold my pest control business 10 yrs. ago, back then my pricing was in residential areas, not rural, no beaver.
Skunks. $100.
Squirrels, raccoons, groundhog, $35
Bats. $100.
Honey bees. $100.
Remember most states require permits and or licenses, insurance, etc.
You aren't on the trap line either. You have to Humanely Euthanize them off propert, permits are usually required for that also.
Do lots of research before you start can get yourself in BIG trouble with the game people.
Retired from fire dept, trapping and loving it here in FL. Have snared a few Armordilla for friends.
Best wishes
Hoppy
"Dad gum it" Larry C. RIP
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
[Re: ahb70]
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06/22/17 05:52 AM
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$50 squirrels? Minimum $275 and from there the price goes ^. 9 out of 10 times you'll need to do some type of seal up unless homeowner or yourself has no interest in that type of work.
I'd do some homework "research" on this matter because you need to be able to justify your price with your skill level. Someone telling you what to charge can jam you up the long run.
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
[Re: ahb70]
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06/24/17 12:21 AM
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I am a beaver control trapper.When I worked as an exclusive full time agent for a company,I was paid $30\hr and $100\day per diem.Full benefits also.Company supplied all equipment and vehicle. Freelancing Its $75 per beaver and $.45\km milage.
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
[Re: ahb70]
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06/24/17 12:16 PM
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Charge what you want,Just saying what I work\worked for.I made a good living,and got a good pension out of it to boot.Doing the freelance you obviously have to charge more because you have all the overhead and have to provide for your own pension,benefits etc,unlike when hired on as an exclusive agent.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
[Re: ahb70]
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06/25/17 02:44 AM
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those rates seam high but the cost of doing business is high in its self do you all guarantee your work? by that I mean if john doe calls and says I have coons knocking over my trash cans do you guarantee to fix the problem and for how long? I know you cant say forever because eventually new ones will disperse in,or heck it might be a different critter all together. I was always scared to charge for a nuisance job always figured it was like selling air! the un forseen can make you look bad! when actually your in the right but the general public has no idea what is truelly going on
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
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06/26/17 10:27 AM
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The difference in animals bothers me a lot. It cost me just as much to catch and dispose of a coon as it does a skunk. It takes just as much gas, wear on tires, insurance to catch a ground hog as a skunk. Why would you charge less for one than the other. Could it have something to do with free market, like supply and demand? You can probably find somebody to trap a raccoon or a ground hog for little money all day long, but fewer people may be inclined to trap a skunk for that. It also has to do with how inclined the client is to pay a certain amount for an animal's removal. A person may be more eager to get rid of a skunk because it smells bad and they don't want to get themselves or their dogs sprayed by a skunk. A ground hog somewhere under a pile of wood in the yard is way less concerning. A skunk den under the front porch is nothing people want to put up with. So there.
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
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06/26/17 10:30 AM
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those rates seam high but the cost of doing business is high in its self do you all guarantee your work? by that I mean if john doe calls and says I have coons knocking over my trash cans do you guarantee to fix the problem and for how long? I know you cant say forever because eventually new ones will disperse in,or heck it might be a different critter all together. I was always scared to charge for a nuisance job always figured it was like selling air! the un forseen can make you look bad! when actually your in the right but the general public has no idea what is truelly going on No! Because you can't, period. Does the weather man guaranty you the sun will shine tomorrow?
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
[Re: ahb70]
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06/27/17 12:48 PM
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Nuisance removal has always been of interest to me. But the general population in this area will not pay to have any critters removed. As long as it isn't destroying things right under their noses they could care less. But honestly I feel like a scab when I don't get something out of the ordeal. And quite honestly its a one and done operation if I don't at least get trapping rites on their property. But I know how much it cost to run a buisness. So im not going to step on toes by undercutting the guy that forks out the major cash to operate a company. As of now their isn't a nuisance removal company within 100 miles from me. So im not stealing food of any ones plate
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
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06/28/17 08:50 AM
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The difference in animals bothers me a lot. It cost me just as much to catch and dispose of a coon as it does a skunk. It takes just as much gas, wear on tires, insurance to catch a ground hog as a skunk. Why would you charge less for one than the other. Could it have something to do with free market, like supply and demand? You can probably find somebody to trap a raccoon or a ground hog for little money all day long, but fewer people may be inclined to trap a skunk for that. It also has to do with how inclined the client is to pay a certain amount for an animal's removal. A person may be more eager to get rid of a skunk because it smells bad and they don't want to get themselves or their dogs sprayed by a skunk. A ground hog somewhere under a pile of wood in the yard is way less concerning. A skunk den under the front porch is nothing people want to put up with. So there. ^^^^^^^^^^^ yep Skunks require a little more risk to the ADC operator too, I use open cages for skunk trapping just like raccoons (because I have had zero success with enclosed traps). Walking up and grabbing a cage with a raccoon in it and putting it in the back of the truck, that don't work with a skunk, they tend to spray you if you do it like that. You need to take the time to cover it, then you need to transport it, then release or euthanize it. Each step requires risk on the operators part because if it sprays now you have some cleanup cos too. Cousin bob can catch that raccoon and relocate it, but he will not take care of a skunk in a trap Beavers are more work than raccoon too. Beaver work is hash all not in the customer back yard under the bird feeder And resetting a 330 takes longer than putting a new cage trap down. Pricing is the hardest part of ADC work, because if you are going to do it full time. You need to make a full time wage. So it's not a "well it only takes a few minutes to set a cage trap and then pick it up and dispose of the animal" Typical single raccoon causing problem: Customer calls and takes 15 minutes to discuss their issue with you Drive to customers house 10-50 minutes Discuss at site the raccoon problem, write contract, set and bait cage, customer hand-holding as you explain everything they want to know 15-45 minutes Return next day to pick up raccoon, talk with customer, get payment for raccoon 15-20 min (No time added for driving to pick up as it should be in route for day) After you return home for the day you need to take care of raccoon, release or euthanize & dispose 15 minutes, and clean cage and reload in truck So this is basic easy raccoon job : 1 hour minimum to 2 hours So how much per hour. Oh and is that raccoon job going to be the 1 hour or 2 job, do you know before you price it? Or do you decide to charge for an average if 1.5 hours per raccoon ? Oh wait you have to record the capture and keep records of it 10 minutes for administrative time What about the time on the phone with the person that decided not to hire you, or worse the one that had you come out to the house and didn't hire you. (Someone has to pay for that) Insurance? Advertising? Phone? Vehicle cost ? $69-$100 hour is what may cover all above costs for that raccoon So cost to capture one raccoon $138-$200 And the customer sees you at their house for maybe 25-45 minutes SEE WHY EVERYONE SAYS " it depends" Some operators numbers are lower some are higher. This is just an example, hope it helps
Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!
If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
[Re: ahb70]
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06/28/17 09:20 AM
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And in the north you have 7-8 months to make 12 months of wages
Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!
If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
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06/28/17 02:41 PM
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I no longer charge per animal. I give a flat rate based on my overhead and profit I want to make. Head count can cost you money. Like when a homeowner calls and the mother raccoon has moved on because they beat on the walls. Or landowner shoots the beaver so you don't catch as many. Too many things to vary as said that will determine what YOU should charge. Good luck
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
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I no longer charge per animal. I give a flat rate based on my overhead and profit I want to make. Head count can cost you money. Like when a homeowner calls and the mother raccoon has moved on because they beat on the walls. Or landowner shoots the beaver so you don't catch as many. Too many things to vary as said that will determine what YOU should charge. Good luck Bingo
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
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06/28/17 06:23 PM
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Pricing surely can be tough. Lots of variables. After a while you can price it so you don't short yourself. I still don't really know how to deal with chipmunks because they are small and to me insignificant so I don't charge a lot. I guess most charges should be by the trip, mileage, time spent in setting, resetting and not by the animal. With beaver for local I do a set up and a per beaver charge, but for long runs I just give them a dollar amount per trip, take it or leave it. Beaver used to be a job, walking the ponds, canoeing, lots of time that I don't now spend very often. Many roadside repeats can be set in a minute or two, even new jobs, real money makers even when the price is not high. Some beaver jobs with a pair may start to finish take a few hours total and less than an hour of work, one check. Saw squirrels mentioned. Not a guy that does a lot with bait, I sure do love baiting dumpster squirrels, bazillions of them sometimes. Don't know where they all come from. Made a makeshift transfer box so traps can be reused. Squirrels fire out of the cages like a rocket, fun to watch.
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
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06/28/17 10:47 PM
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Michigan trapper hit the nail on the head if your doing this as a business you have to be able to pay yourself and all your overhead. It takes time to figure it all out the longer you do it the easier it gets. This is my third year in business and I'm now full time still working out undercharging but you have to get away from pet animal charges. We are a very specific service and in most cases the only one in a town so think of it that way.
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
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07/04/17 12:02 AM
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I live in a rural area the people here are smart enough to go to the big box stores and buy a cheap hava hart catch their nuisance coon drive a block away and release it lol only to have it return the same nite twice as hungry, I have caught a few nuisance coons here in town that have been caught so many times their heads are bald from fighting the cages! NEEDLESS TO SAY THEY DID NOT RETURN THAT NITE!!
LIVE LIFE LIKE THEIR IS NO TOMMORROW
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Re: ADC Pricing Advice
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07/09/17 12:40 PM
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I cant their is no competition for over a hundred miles! You guys that do it for a living what insurance do you recommend that will be the biggest factor on chargin. All the other costs can be covered easily enough. Short of something catastrophic like theft or a natural disaster! If a home owner in this day and age don't understand fuel and cost of living exspenses they shouldn't be calling to hire someone in the first place. If I decide to do this I want to do it rite the first time. And by that I do not mean I will go out and buy a fleet of new trucks and a building. I sleep easier nowing all the legal aspects are covered and covered again. insurance, taxes , those are the silent killers.That and spending beyond your means
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