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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5999513
09/15/17 09:48 AM
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I have released several deer unharmed from regular snares... Never a buck tho.


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5999562
09/15/17 10:51 AM
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I read our regs. A BAD OR lock is required for foot snares.
I'm unsure about the benefit or legality of a release ferrule. That's new to me.

Release ferrule:
https://www.dakotalinesnares.com/products/release-ferrules-1?variant=755090205

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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5999684
09/15/17 01:53 PM
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Isn't a BAD and a release ferrule the same thing??


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #5999688
09/15/17 02:01 PM
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I'm not sure but I think in some states a release fertile is not an approved release devise on snares

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: The Beav] #5999705
09/15/17 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
Isn't a BAD and a release ferrule the same thing??
I think you are right. A release ferrule seems like 1 type of BAD. I don't know anyone that's used them.

Yes sir- that is probably correct, I suspect.

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6000131
09/16/17 12:11 AM
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The Gregerson locks work real good for holding coyotes (24 hr check) but still releasing all but the smallest deer on standard leg snares as long as the snares are kept real short... If you put very much length on the snare the coyotes will tear out the Gregerson lock with constant lunges...

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 9wire] #6000134
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Originally Posted By: 9wire
The Gregerson locks work real good for holding coyotes (24 hr check) but still releasing all but the smallest deer on standard leg snares as long as the snares are kept real short... If you put very much length on the snare the coyotes will tear out the Gregerson lock with constant lunges...
Thanks. Which size gregerson are you referring to?

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6000154
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I use 5/64" 1x19 cable...

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6000285
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So To be legal In WI what BADs and what type of locks are required on a foot snare??
I'm betting that there are already restrictions being placed on what you can use and what you can't use here In WI


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6000323
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I read the foot snare section of the '17 regs. It kinda seems any type of BAD or stop is legal, so long as the BAD is rated at 350# or less
But I've never known of those ferrules or gregersons to be used around here.

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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: AJE] #6000337
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Originally Posted By: AJE
I read the foot snare section of the '17 regs. It kinda seems any type of BAD or stop is legal, so long as the BAD is rated at 350# or less
But I've never known of those ferrules or gregersons to be used around here.
kind of curious what kind of stop u could use on a foot snare

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: Yes sir] #6000368
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Originally Posted By: Yes sir
Originally Posted By: AJE
I read the foot snare section of the '17 regs. It kinda seems any type of BAD or stop is legal, so long as the BAD is rated at 350# or less
But I've never known of those ferrules or gregersons to be used around here.
kind of curious what kind of stop u could use on a foot snare



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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6000446
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So It doesn't stress the type of lock??


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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6003622
09/19/17 10:17 PM
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Offhand, I don't think so Beav. But that is a good question.

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6003643
09/19/17 10:38 PM
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I looked at the WI foot snare pictures
and to me it looks like there is no b.a.d. in the pic , not that it concerns me because a person can only use them on fox and yotes at certain times of the year !

You would think it should be more clear but I bet it only concerns about 2 people in Wisconsin ! laugh

And like Yes sir states how can a deer stop be put on one and hold fox ? confused

Fox and yotes are the only thing you can foot snare in Wisconsin .

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6003649
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I just looked. The picture is a little unclear, but the text says a BAD or stop rated at up to 350 lbs is required.

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6003657
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If a deer stop is on it how is it going to hold a fox ?

I must be missing the big picture.




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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6003662
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They don't require a deer stop. Only our traditional neck CR's require the deer stop.

Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6003671
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Really , wouldn't you think a deer would step in a foot snare before a neck snare , where a stop is required on a neck snare , "cable restraint" in Wi.
Makes no sense .




Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.

Become fast,efficient & effective.

The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.

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Re: Belisle selective foot snare [Re: 2 TRAPS] #6003674
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Cable Restraint ,old Indian word for "There goes my coyote" .




Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.

Become fast,efficient & effective.

The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.

KEEP IT SIMPLE!

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